Transcript for JRE MMA Show #106 with Leon Edwards

It was a good time. It didn't the first time seeing you live or the fan to my manager. So effortless is like talking right, but it's still funny. If you can approach fighting like that, make it effortless, then you're doing a good job.

Saturday night. Saturday night. Yeah, I felt good. All backstage because, um, leading up to the fight, everyone's at that ring restaurant. So, I was kind of waiting for some feeling to say, where's the ring restaurant? But I felt great backstage. And I preferred fighting with no crowd. Did you really? Yeah. You get to the apex and it's like, you get there, you wrap your hands, you warm up your fight. There's no hanging around for five hours backstage and it's like a gym, right? You get there, you're warmed and you just go compete. So I prefer it, for sure.

Yeah, instructions clearly. I'm a very good listener to my coaches. I wanted to say that, but it was good. I enjoyed it.

I was just getting warmed up. I got over the last year and half. I've learned so much that I wanted to show them to have that instant happen. It's like, is one in the million, right? When you when you prepare and you can't be like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that. And then when that happens, I was like, I fought a four with okay, take five minutes. They play out a little bit and then hopefully can fight again, but he's just I was that bad at cause I was so far Yeah, and then was it it was not quite it wasn't a poke now.

It's like you're you'll kick it right soon. Yeah, well when you're kicking You don't hold, you don't hold your fist and kick like this, right? You kind of use it to momentum, to swing your arm back and others doing it. It kind of just, like, graze designs. What not graze, you're kind of in deep, but it grazes eyes a bit and then, but was it like the front knuckles? You look like it for the pictures like that. I couldn't tell. I didn't feel it. I thought it was the, the kick that got him in his body and then felt down. And I started, you know, the one-star grabbing his eyes was like, ah, shit, I got, I got, I caught him in his eye, you know, right. I thought he was literally the kid.

I think it was a knuckle. You weren't doing this for sure.

It's like the bad luck, right? The last year or so, just one after, and after the Woodley fight, I meant to fight Woodley in London in March, and had that canceled a week before, on Sunday before the fight, and then from there, I just bad luck, bad luck trickling down.

And it wasn't the eyeball, right? It's like the under the eyelid. Yeah, you know, castle also below Sunday in the casino in Vegas and his eyes was fine. Just the it's the lid. That was a brewery's book.

Yeah, he's durable. We're going to call him with a head kick in the first round. I kind of rushed my work a little bit. I kind of went wild and started swimming swimming for him, but I should have picked my shots a little bit better. But he's tough, he's durable, but he doesn't beat me in the end of the given day. You know, I believe it would fight at 10 times. I'll beat him 10 times. And that's just it. It was a late step in for hands up fell out. And I think if you go back, work is way back up and then hopefully we can meet somewhere down the line, but for now, I'm looking towards the target shot. I'm looking towards Vinochampion.

I don't believe so. I think, from the first round, I'm normally, I'm a slow starter, right? So if that's my first round, you're not making it to the fifth, you know? So, I think everyone saw a word fight was going and it wouldn't have made it to the fifth to number five. So I understand your confidence and it really do.

fights are crazy but um you know I'm saying that I know you're saying but I would have hold on on the fight clearly Joe normally I'm a slow start in the first round right I like so I would have felt great Saturday night and Even though I felt good, but I wasn't not beat me.

Not straight away. I'm looking to, that's my nine, my nine fight right in a row. Eight, I wonder if I wouldn't streak for it below. I would have won the fight, so that'd be nine fight, um, without without loss from game, um, beat by it was been five, six years ago, so I feel I've done enough work now to prove that, uh, I belong at least in no more contentified, or title fight, uh, you know, so I can totally appreciate your position, but I can also appreciate the loss. I know it's coming from, I'll say, if I was in my problem to do the same thing, right, is right, remember about 13, 14, and, yeah, this big opportunity is first main event, um, number three going the world, so, I know where is approaching it from, but I am looking for my own career, right? I want to look towards the target shot, I understand. Hopefully we'll get it.

Because we, we were two weeks before that. Then the white came out. And, uh, and I've never been to fight Leone on a non-in-taught fight. next week is like, Leon, you want to fight him? I'm too high rank for him, but what do you think that came from? I don't know. I think everyone was turning him down, you know, and no one was turning me down as well, so it does okay. You want to fight him? I was okay. What about Kobe? Is that Kobe said no? What about Master of Master of Master of Master of Master of Master of Master? What about one boy? One boy is injured. That's okay. You got the most hype in the division now that I could like pick it back off to get to a World Target shot, right? And this was a kid. Then what build more business? This kid that can't be in is tough. So okay, I got there. I'll find I want to beat him. I'll fight for the hotel and that was my plan right to use This hype they building around him to get me to a workshop come out. Oh, I'm always looking towards the tile shop, right? Anyway, it can get there easier. I'll then use hands up to you to get there

Like what's going on? I've been in promotion for so long. I like 8 second knockout and everything. I did exactly what he did, but like I said, right? Just randomness comes from knowing.

It's so important. It's been on that since back a day, right? Yeah. Boxing is like, we can put the bombs in the seat. Yep. That's everything.

So I'm not really about skillset. A bit about skillset was more about you can put the most bombs in the seat.

after this kid wouldn't keep doing anything right because if I come out tomorrow now thought dressing like it was when I rose and shit now it's all in a robe and paint my hair pink and but how you do you know so I think desperate exactly the way itself it will be self keep winning that's important and they can't deny winners right I believe if you work hard and you win they can't deny yourself I wouldn't get my way in. I'll feel more, I enjoy it better when I wouldn't get my way so.

A lot of ups and downs. I would say you got, it does my fourth camp before, before it below. Kind of woodlick camp. So it was, it was a lot of ups and downs, but I use that time off to grow, right? I kind of changed my mentality like, hey, So sitting around and bitching and complaining about, no, no, no, don't want to fight me. Use it as a blessing. Use it to improve your skills, use it to improve your mindset. And that's what I did in the last year, year and a half. You know, I used it to approach the game different. If I can control what I can control, which is all after this term to training, that's it. I can't control myself. I can't control myself. I can control what I could control and turn up to the gym, work hard, dedicate myself, stay in discipline, I'm going to fight. It's sort of sitting around and complaining and not growing, not learning. Or maybe I'll use it into my favor. It's a blessing and I have grown, leaps and bleeps since my last five and the four RDA. But it was, I feel good. I feel good.

Just the way I look at the game, you know? As before, it's kind of fighting to win, not to hurt them, you know? I'm fighting now to hurt him. I want to I want to be able to champion off without winning is enough now, you know, because I want to fight win streak. That's the third most in the division history is GSB one thing or now tomorrow is one thing GSB in the mean. So now I'm going to find to to hurt them and to cement my my name in the division and that's my mindset now I'm not fine to win no more I want enough of I know I can beat them you know when the more wind the more confidence I get and the more the more competencies guys the more I can be worth champion You know, it was coming from the UK to all the other, everyone tells you that I'll keep from the UK, you can't wrestle, you can't do it there, you can't do that. And I'm proven it's fight by fight and I'm going to achieve being a World Champion coming from the UK and it's going to mean so much for the kids coming under me. That's my motivation to be a World Champion.

Yeah, yeah. I thought we were like a day, but as a member of my mind, just over the last year or so, you're in half of my mind just changing that. You've got everything to do this, why I don't know what it was. It's kind of just fine just to... It's like, I don't know, if you just kind of find just like win right, I think the money as well, I can use things like if you lose, get half of you pay, but now like Saturday night with a flat fee right, so we lose a joke, I get to say money so and still we're not doing perform the best of my abilities, so this should probably change it as well, but Yeah, I think the mindset changed over time. We're like just one one day. It's like over the last year or so. Mom, mine for any change.

No, never. Never. I don't believe it. I don't know. Don't believe in it. I got teammates. I do it. And I work with coaches, but often my life experiences help me in the position of what's specific life experience. Just coming from where I came from, you know, lops and nuns, I came from some...ops and nuns, is that the norm to me, right? I look forward to facing that adversities, when they do face it, I know I can get through it. So that's what it is really, I look forward to address these. So no capital, I've been able to, I've been doing this as a kid, you know, so... I look forward to it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, straight into MMA, I didn't start. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, I didn't do nothing before, it was like hanging around on the street, you friends, and then into martial arts.

Yeah, I did everyone said that. I said that so I'm a gem. But I did nothing at all before it went straight from hanging around the street. My friends do one day a gym was game-built in my area. My mom said try it out. I tried it out and stuck to it. Wow. I'm gonna fill in a love of it and I fell over to strike in first. Even though I do an all of it, but the strike can just caught my attention and then the grappling come later.

Nothing else. Yeah, I can imagine like, another like 20 years. Come on. So now you're doing martial arts. Just keep boxing in the norm. Just do. So I can't imagine like their generation, what are they going to be like, right? Because every, every, every year does like a new technique that's coming out. And I don't know. Coffee. That's not a new technique. It lasts a couple of years. I'm looking forward to see how far MMA goes and what's the next thing.

I first had it when I went to aka, and I'm Luke Rocco did it to me. This is like five years ago. And he kicked my calf when I was sparring. But I didn't feel it when I was sparring. After the sparring, my leg was dead for like a week. So, that's a good kick. I got skinny shins. I'm scared that I break my legs. So, I never tried.

Yeah, yeah. I got some bone in legs, bro. I don't want to kick in the car for like body kicks. I kick the the thighs and the body in the head with the car for a few like a technique to it's all right. You got to kick like the meaty part of the shin. So it's a good technique to use.

Yeah.

I think watch it was watching the countdown. I kind of approached the game. I just like just boxing, right? You can tell you like a boxing coaching and that's all you was doing. So for those good techniques to use, if you're going to fight him, you're looking at what he's doing in his training camp. You're gonna kick him right in the box there. So, um, fair play to dust in.

Yeah, it's a lot of weight down heavy. It's usually when your frozen backhand, you know. And it turned it perfectly. You frozen backhand. It kind of like slipped to the inside and landed a kick. It was a good technique to use.

I'm trying to think because the coffee came from Norway, right? I was trying to think, well, Western Henderson was the first guy. So I was right.

Yeah, I'm trying to think, well, with that late could use, right? Cause elbows are already in. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Yeah. That was in his prime. It's like, people favor my first fight. I'm on to this day. I think he's the go. You know, from out easy made a look.

Yeah.

Who throws Dan Henderson around like this to go when he was in his prime I remember watching all that 18 years old and watching silver perform you know and it's definitely Bonna you're like hmm Yeah, he's good.

in sparring for that year. So it's kind of getting the time and all of it. It goes straight up. It's like skimmed the lipos of it. We could get it on the chin, right? Yeah. To knock them out. So good technique to use. I think to land it as well, if you look them in the eye and then get them still, not you didn't go bang. Then you land it, right? We've looking in the chest when you're sparring. It was a lot of idea, looking at the chassis, looking at the eye. You freeze them a little bit, then you go bang, you know. And that's how I got it below and sat down with the hair kick. I looked at my eyes, you looked at me, then I dipped, then you followed my eyes, and then I kicked him in his head.

They look him as I first though, they're like, for even then look down and go up.

Yeah. You go to the body with it.

Fine.

He did it to jump in front kick. Yeah. He was a good result in his prime Machita. Yeah. They can't just let it fell off, right?

No, bro.

No, I think you're part of MMA. Um, yeah, about fake to fake five.

The Brazilian is at one point like owned And then once he saw the game in all of it off, which is weird. Well, I'm not saying on juice, but it's a weird thing.

I don't know if there's no juice. I understand. But you're young.

Oh, gee. I thought my body was good last week. I thought good last week. So I was a jack last week. So it's a little good. How old are you now? 29? Yeah, you still. You're not even in your prime yet. Nice coming. Yeah. Exactly. So I don't know being all these guys and also I thought everyone above me, like 35, 44. If it was me, it was very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast, fast surprise, no, because I know it like it says about money, right? We put an asses in and see it. I think if the fight 10 out of 10 times, I think it's been proven nine, probably. It's a good entertainer fight for the fans, but martial arts is one of them fights, right? It wasn't just going to go out there and probably go out there and probably me again probably.

I was training. You had wrestling coaches. I remember watching him. It was good training. You weren't sitting on a couch for the last six months. Then it takes six days and full. Right.

Yeah. What did you think of yourself?

It's such an irreplaceable. I think he dropped him, barely dropped him over there. So, maybe a good fight. I will watch him if I show him. I think if I had to put money on it, I probably would go with him to put a win again.

No, it'd be good. I love to see as well, but I can't see what you could do different. You know, he's gonna come out again, be what he does in seeing things for the fences and trying to knock him out. He's gonna high guard and just grapple him and that's going to see what he does different. Unless he catches him and knock him out, it's going to see what he does different. when uh... you and miles will all got at it at that post-fight press conference like did you expect that fight was going to come after that you would eventually um... yeah for sure for okay next that's that's that's the next fight right start away and to have it like now for two years to two and a half years it's like it was the day before yeah i'm recording about ever since in the years he wants it uh... but you just keep turning down and said uh... now you don't want to fight well that's the weird thing it's like you're

It's a weird thing. It'll change. It's going to change a hundred percent. It's coming. It can feel it. It's changing in our slow level. I think number one should fight number two, right? Number two. Number three should fight number four. And that's what it should be. Right. But it's like, I'll have to go to like number 13 to fight below. I'll have to go to fight hands that cause all these guys that like, David is right. It was just demanding like Kobe for example. It's demanding tartar shots like just got beat like one fire to go. Um, you know, knocked out one fire go right.

Yeah, so yeah, so Tyrone then beat Tyrone and yeah, um in for a sense right so far to his mind then he beat it was just Tyrone right?

So I don't think you deserve a title shot. He just got beat, like, convincingly, you weren't like a, it was a close fight to be fair, but he did get stopped, you know? So I don't think you got a title shot just straight away. Um, so that's a fight you would like. Yeah. Now, yeah, for sure, 100%. Um, obviously, I wanted a title shot would not define.

Yeah, yeah, bigger deal. Nah, for sure. I won't be sitting around the way for the, I'll be fighting, you know, so we're trying to, we're trying to get it and Kobe's a weird one, so we don't know what's going to happen, but we're trying to get a fight done.

It's a good fight technically, you know, I think, I think the top, All the guys that are similar, right? And skillset, what they're going to do when they fight me, right? You're not going to come to wrestle. If a fight was going to come to wrestle, Kobe is going to come to wrestle. Belai was going to come to wrestle. Don't know what they're going to do. You know, it says it's easier to prepare for them. You can, I was saying before you couldn't like swap them out. So when hands up fell out, it was like I put anyone in because they're all going to do the same thing anyway. So they swap another one in and that's what it was. So normal. They're all gonna try to get into our grapple. That means nothing to me now. I feel good when it would be grappling. I feel good at striking. I can't wait to show my skills and show what I'm about. I haven't done work. I could yet in the game, but I want to show it and I'm going to show it.

Um, yeah. I'm a head coach. Like really? Nah, I think I got like one coach. I said, this is my head coach, right? I got like coaches for different martial arts and they all come together. Um, I'll put them all together and they communicate like that, but I'm got like one person that say, okay, you have to do this. You have to do that. You have to do that. I prefer that way as well because I feel with head coaches. Um, from my experience is like, you do it my way or no way. You know, I mean, you can't train 10 guys the same way. Right. And if it doesn't coaches do, like, we've got one person, they train them all the same way. But I might be different. I'm taught in Southport. It might be short and offered up. You can't train me the same way you train him, you know? That's what I do and I feel comfortable. I feel good doing it that way. Each of that, I don't think nothing wrong with it, just for me, I prefer, I always talk back and forth with my coaches and we run game plans together. If I don't agree with it, Let's say my strangen coach come to me with, okay, for this fight, you need to throw a Hickick, but I don't want a Hickick, this fight because I don't think he's going to work for this guy, you know, and if I watch him and see what he does, that's what I do right, I watch the person, I break him down and see, okay. Everyone got habits, right? That they do. Some people like to pass to the left. Some people like to pass to the right. So if you're good at passes to the left, if you're making pass to the right, it was not good. Then you're going to have more success. And that's what I try to do basically all over the game. If it's good at jabbing, if you take away the jab, just by moving out of the way of it, then you have to throw something else, which is not natural to him. And that's where I approach it again, really. Just try to throw them off for what they're good at, but take away from him and let them use what they're about at.

There's certain information as well, you know, I'm not just like mastering it all myself. They sent like, okay, this is what it does and then I'll look at it like a what was you do to to to counter at that and if they're telling me they're telling me I'm like, okay, if it was good to me, then I'll do it. But if it doesn't, if it's not natural, I think it has to be natural movement, right? If it kind of like forcing yourself to like for example, this fight would blow, because it's okay, you need to throw it up or cut the back up or cut, it dips into it. But inspiring us weren't for sorry, we're not you're just wearing it. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, for inspiring us trying to try to do a way to tell me today, but every time I was for an uppercut the guy was catching me over the top with a hook, you know, I was like just doesn't this didn't come natural to me so I just told her to say to my dog I don't know he's a technique for this fight because if I'm trying to inspire and I'm getting caught with shots and in boxing that's what happens when you last time you guys throw lead uppercuts yeah yeah when boxing the get off nice I can alone for example is yeah is good of it you know like just like touched you go bang and it's good but in boxing The cars are like the more like tucked up right here, right? So you can work the body a bit more and But I'm in MMA because more like elusive and the long different guards get a lot of long guards tight guards. Everyone's different. So yeah, I think boxing and striking is two different things. Do you work with boxers at all? Buckly aspirin. Yeah. Yeah. If they were to buck syndrome, it was like a war, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, in the UK. Especially if you're MMA fire, if you're going to take a buck syndrome, you're like, okay, my coaches always tell me that gym is like, okay, you spot this pro. And it's like, it's always like, just come out bloody and you're having that having like a terror. It's never like a place, but it's always like a, you're going to spot a boxer. You're going to have a war. That doesn't seem like a lot of fun.

I got a teammate that does it as well. Tom Breeze. Yeah. He's the same way. Breeze doesn't spar? No. Yeah. He's the last two free fights. He doesn't do it. That's interesting. Yeah, yeah. I think each did it all right.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, situations like play play spar, you know, just like range finders shots really is not really getting like hit properly. For me, I prefer as far and as far as twice a week in camp.

One in camp. So one one one small week will be big gloves, which is you can hear how you can go harder in big gloves. And then on the Saturday there's a little glove which is the bumper gloves and that's more like place or that normally in the plug-a-grably match because it's more gloves. It's hard to pull these shots right in some of those. Yeah, so it's like one hard on the Wednesday and Saturday's more like a technical working for you techniques.

Yeah, I saw different right good Russians Russians do the same thing in wrestling they Yeah, um the rest of it for like five hours a day What did it just like drills not like going hard hard, you know to more just like just drilling technique can just drill play play technique you don't resist you know and So if you add up over the years, they're probably way more hours in the gym than what you were doing if you're going hard hard hard every day So I see what I'm not I see we're coming from but I think it's different. I think you have to for me anyway You have to get that that That hit right when someone's trying to like not trying to knock you out, but they're coming at you for a pace and you get your reflex and you're getting a shot soon. I'd like to feel the shots before going into a fight. Let's see, I didn't spot for the whole camp. I'll be paranoid, but I'll still take a punch. You know, so I want to feel that I can, you know, I feel it was different.

Um, I thought I meant to fight like six months in. And I want to beat like a blue belt. He's like, uh, he's like, uh, he's like, I told my gym to like a tournament. He's like a in-house tournament. Like a smoker. Yeah, yeah, you know, in-house tournament. And then some blue belt came and then I did it. And I wanted to tournament. I felt trained for like six months and just like kept me kept me in the gym, you know, and I've been like a positive feedback from all the coaches in shirts. So, um, yeah, about six months in had my first amateur fight. So,

No, no. I was a good fighter anyway from like young on the street and in school initiatives, but you just didn't have any coaching at all.

on the street yeah yeah street street fights the street fight right yes um have it off so um night no coaching till 17 didn't start learning um what it was and that's it and did you stop street fighting when that happened um i just started an old boy let later on yeah cuz i have it in the street fighting out for a while But um, at the start, you're kind of like, testing like your skillset. That's the same. Yeah. Works, you know, good people in the street really, especially in the UK. They can't, not very good fighters, you know, and they kind of swing wild. And he's up in the tossal and that's it. Well, you can pick your shots good and see openings. It's a different ball game.

I think it's gonna be a bad night. I've been out before in the like bounces at the dormant and like we're doing like gum shields and but I've seen these guys in the gym right and I can't they're not really the looked off but I can't fight you know and I've brought them to the gym before and like at least you just buy the skid that's like 17's like a little skinny kid and the skin the kid black beach them up you know and and like humble them in It's a mad thing when you can fight, it gives you confidence as well to not fight when you do go out for sure. That's what I put my son in it. How old are you son now? He's eight. That's a great start. He's actually so. I think it gives you confidence to, you know, you know, you're about, I don't need to go out there and be tough and prove it and I think that's a martial arts did for me. He kind of calm me down. As when I was younger and I was fighting, it's more just about proving yourself, right? Yeah.

I was doing that for like two o'clock as I got to go.

That's what's at the Macoche's this week of

I was sitting down, I was like, okay, this is like the, this is what we're going to remember, right? The hanging around in the whole town. We don't have to remember the fight, so let me out. You remember when you win the last, right? But what you remember is that the bandity that you had with your coaches and that that's also a system of coaches last week that we treasure these moments, you know, this is what we work for. And just enjoy camaraderie. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's what we're sort of about. That's what you remember when you out.

Yeah, for sure. But to be fair, oh my friends, they train as well, you know, so to all your friends train. Yeah. Um, most of them trying since I since I got gotten it, they all kind of like winning it as a, they don't compete. They are like businesses and do, um, obviously, but, um, they're trying martial arts, but if boxing or strength conditioning to do something, so they don't, they can't understand it. They tell me shit out of, I don't know about that bottle of ruin. Yeah, about fights. It was in this fight. I was like, nah, I don't watch it because in the UK it's that free in the morning. But they say, oh, but watch it. You know, they're not staying with what to watch your fights.

Yeah, I do. It's too much. I enjoy boxing. I love watching boxing. Um, Emma Merrill watching Emma Merrill's book. If I had to choose, I would like watching boxing.

Yeah. I'll do that for sure. Enjoy sparring boxes as well, you know. I enjoy switching stances well and so I'll probably box one day. I love to try out, you know, because it's like a good answer. We'll see. But it's not like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah,

Yeah, Johnny Reynolds is I've been working in now for eight years. Yeah, about eight years, six to six to eight years. But before I was working with his brother, his brother was only Joshua. That's his head. He had strong condition in coach, then went from his brother to Johnny. Now he's my strong condition in coach and working to give an hour for football.

So if you're finishing it, um, two, three times a week. And yeah, so it's Tuesday, first day, then I'm sat down. We even do hills or we do tracks or something. But yeah.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, they don't sparse. I probably choose their morning. If I spot Wednesday, I do choose their morning. Then I have like a light. I like to choose the night. Then I'll spot heavy Wednesday. Then like pads Wednesday night. So I kind of like do it since I can't meet him. I feel tired. I'm like good, I'm good at listening to my body, right? So I feel tired, I know I'm tired, I have a day off. And that's what is our coach is sometimes like one hit coach about and I have to come training, be tough, do this to you that, you know, but I believe you should listen to your body. If you're tired that day, every day off, it's more mental, right? I need to train, I need to do this, but you don't, if you're tired, you even be way more better if you had like one or two days off and then come back and train and fight. I think it's more mental than anything. So this is like trial and error you figured out. Yeah, I figured it out over the years. Yeah, I figured it over the years. And like I said, I think it's mental. Could have for example, look at, just red dye it. Look up, fly my way wherever, right? I wasn't counting down to the days. I've got McDonald's in the shit. Yeah, that's all out of the time. You know, it was like, well, I think he's really good.

You're here to change. Very good. So people will do that. And like, The more mentally the shit at a burger, I'm gonna lose the fight with the fight brothers. Show what do you think?

We'll check your... Now, the PIA game that I'm not ringed. I'll try it. I'll try it. This is hard to keep. Remember to put it on and take it off and put it on. We do like boxing all the way to leave it on.

Can I have a monster? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why just take your ring off when you try and then put it back on? Yeah, you should. Yeah.

Okay, thanks.

I don't know what it's like in pounds I'd lost my smile my taste I like two weeks off. You just think you meant to do and wouldn't back to training and my body just felt weak you know as I had to pull out the fight so I had that

Yeah, yeah, I believe so because that's like, yeah, I think that's what it was. I was working as a hard in camp and then your body just shut down, right? And then you had two weeks off.

Whatever. Thank you. Yeah, we need to add like two weeks off and try to go back at the same intensity that it was two weeks ago. You just can't do it. Yeah, yeah. So I have to pull out.

Are you recovering good?

I said it, but it is like no.

You think so? Yeah, I think so. Why? I don't know, I think it's always training, it's always around the fights. I think once they have some time off, I think it's in combat.

This should therefore do it for you know, we'll be perfect, right? If those me, I wouldn't want to go out to the night after getting out for you, man, but I'm just about just to get even.

But I think how long should leave it for to describe him?

How long has it been now when did the fight last?

Yeah, probably a little bit longer probably because it's been so dominant. I think it should give him just a little bit longer to see what he's going to do.

And and you see where he's at now. And he goes that way. He's up there.

Yeah, he's he's good. I think skillset wise. I think he's for me. I think he's out number one probably skillset. You think so? Yeah. He's very keen, right? Yeah. Him, China, Dustin, Connor, who else is there?

You know. Now, for real, well, Yeah, I've been I'll live there and dust it should fight for it about you know, and after that let China fight I Think all the variant dust and but it you know, it doesn't matter what I think because they're gonna have Connor versus dusting again because that's where the money that's gonna be crazy.

That's gonna be no we you can't win that one No, I mean, I kind of was catching him with some good chance, you know, just like shot him down, but Yeah, it's gonna be hard.

Yeah, yeah, so it's a tiny fight for money on it. I probably go If it kind of can do again, if he just fixed up his sense a little bit earlier in his career, he was a bit more elusive, right? Now, he's just like, heavy, heavy in his legs, so I've been kind of can do it if they're fine. I'm sure I'll make him adjustment.

It's like wow like if he did win that way, that's like the most barbershit ever Yeah, and I couldn't do that in fact, he could have to be like zoned in right couldn't be bein' on yachts and I'd have to be like isolation in my room. My coach is chilling and talking I couldn't do it. I think it's too much to do with that right? I gotta focus on your job at hand is to perform so If you did do it, it would be cool.

I try to fight with you because I try to treat it like another week, right? I think if you build up to be something that is not just normal happens, right? The sitting in your room and kind of like, oh, we're thinking to fight what's going to happen and it never does and the more I compete the more fight, I think you just think crazy shit in your head was going to happen in a fight and it never plays like that way. So I learned to be like You know what, just treat like another week, you know what you normally eat. I was here to cut weight, but on a fight day, eat while we eat on a sparring day. I was eating like normal, chicken rice, fish. Eat like, I don't really eat heavy and sparring day. And I'd like to go for walks. I go for like a long walk, fight day, and my team just like fight day. Yeah, yeah. I like that a lot of a long walk just like banter and my team. And making food like a normal day, I don't want to build up to be something it's not. And I do this every single day, you know. If you do that way, I think you have a better success than just sitting in your room. If you can ask, I'm going to be playing a match in your head.

I don't know, I can't put like a finger on it to say, this is why I do it. I just like to go for a long walk, stretch my legs out, I have a little band through the team. Just chill to treat like another day, like I'm back at home and my gym and I'm on the way to the gym. That's it. It's not really, I can't think why I do it. That's why I like to do so. It's like, yeah, that's how I like to do it.

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Yeah.

I'm just saying, I've been through so much that fight, like a fist fight, just like the fist fight. You're not going to die. It was the worship that you've been through. worse. I don't know like one worse thing than I'll just like the duration of life. I don't think it's like one thing like this is the worst thing I've been for but I've been for a lot, you know. I don't know, I don't know, it's hard to put a finger on it. Like, I don't know, it's like struggles in life. Yeah, yeah. Just some boys I was born in Jamaica, obviously. Came to you, came when I was 10, 11. My dad was basically gang leader, basically. Yeah, in Jamaica. So basically in Jamaica is like, streets, right, we call it lanes, it was like streets. It was like, um, We're one street fight, we're like the, never street down like free streetstander road. In my era, my dad was at the lead of the gang, right? So he came to the UK before us. He was like, he's like, sell jokes and wait, whatever he did to bring back money back into the community to buy guns and do what he does, you know? I came from that, then from there he brought me and my brother and my mom to the UK. I was in for safety, and then I was in Birmingham, and then he passed away when I was 13, 30 years old, so I was in the UK for about two to three years, then it died when I was 13, and then I have any password. I've got a shot, got killed in London. I've not got a phone call, was that 30 years old. I remember being in bed right, and I've not got a phone call that two in the morning. So I heard a phone rang, and I heard a cry in the right. So it's like, you're woke, you're woke, you're woke, you're woke, you're woke. just got killed in London. But he's like a weird feeling, right? Because since I knew my dad, he's always been the same person, right? He's always been in that life, you know? Once I expected it, it wasn't like a shock, right? Because I knew what you did I know. That's the life, right? Yeah, you know, and so it was Matt.

What does a kid do? He's like, This film normal yeah, he's just normal right everyone I He's fucked up because I liked it when I was a kid right cuz I had all that the latest shit cuz he was like sending shit from the UK and like I'm like a bot I'm not I'm like a bicycle when he's in Jamaica I'm like a remote control car as a kid. That's a big deal. You know, and I had all at all that and I'll say everyone around the area know where Wilson. So as a kid it's like, that is this guy, you know, it's a special person. Yeah, exactly, you know, so look, looking back at it now and knowing exactly what it didn't want, what I've got into, you know, it's wild, right? I understand the sacrifices that you made for his family. It's different opportunities. I know looking at it from now when I'm in the UK. In the UK, if you're broke, you can go to the council and give you money. You know, in Jamaica, if you broke, you broke. There's no help. No one's coming to help you and give you no things. So if he decided to risk his life and provide for his family, then you do he have to do. I would love him for that, I respect him for that, and that's it.

Yeah, exactly. It's hard to explain to my friends and like, It's hard to like tell them, right? Because like you just want to get it, you live in the UK, you got basically a full-back plan. If we go dead broke in the UK, I can go to the council and it's called signing on and they will give you like basically a month or a month like a week ago. That's it. It's giving you like a weekly wage, right? In Jamaica, there's no sign none, you know, so you have to, you're gonna hustle or you're gonna do something. There's not opportunities for jobs or especially to come from from the get-o. There's no opportunities to get like, going get like a 9-5 and because your area loan marks against your name, you know, so. It did what he needed to do. He provided his family. He did a good thing by bringing me to the UK and bringing my brother and my mom to the UK. And now I'm able to provide for my family and get back to my family.

Yeah, I was going down that path. When I was a kid, when I passed away, I figured that's when I got more rebellious towards life, I was going down that path for like in gangs and doing shit like that, you know. until age 16, 17, more mom, born to the gym, and MMA is what took me out of the life, you know, because I was spending so much time in the gym that I worked hanging around in the street, no more in my friends, you know, and I think MMA, 100% saved me from that life.

Um, yeah, for sure. I think what kept me in the gym as I, is not the positive reinforcement, right? To have someone say to you every day, you're good, bro. You can do it. You can do that. If you're not as a kid, it helps you, mind, it motivates you to want to be there, right? You want to be in that environment when everyone's telling you good stuff and they're saying, you can do it, if you work hard, you can do it, you can achieve it, you can be with you as your champion. When I was on training for like a year, you know what I mean? And this is what my coach is telling me and people telling me in the gym, so that's like kept me in the gym for sure.

Yeah, 100%. That's like my one of my main motivations. If you can touch it, it's different. You can see on the TV, but if you can know someone in your area that grew up like you, that's situation as you, in any achieve that, then you just feel like you can do as well. I know Michael Bissman was the first champion from the UK, but he did it living in the States, right? He did it from America, so for me, from being in the UK. It was hard to be like, okay, I can be a champion as I could eat it, I could eat it from another place, I didn't do it from where I'm doing it from, I was a respect for doing it, but I want to achieve it coming from the UK, so the kids behind me can be a lot learned it, he came from the body, no, and he achieved it by sticking with his team, working hard and dedicating himself. That's one of my main motivation to give back to the kids. I know what it feels like to struggle in what to go for hardship.

Or in UK?

Yeah, yeah, I've been in a case twice. I think like six, seven years. Was that to work on your wrestling? Yeah, yeah, do a bit do a bit like working with wrestling. My first time when they food, I think for the Commir, it was my camp. To work, where I started to play out. I got sick of art and food. But yeah, that's only time to travel. And then from that, that's what that's what I'm saying. It's not for people. Um, it fucked up, right? Because when I was coming up like young in the UK, all these guys telling me, even my coaches and my coaches, what I'm training partners, you have to go to, you want to be successful, you have to go to America to improve. You know, so I started believing it, and that's the reason why I went to the UK, you know, and after the commercial, it wasn't for, for, um, and I lost. I came back to my, to my, to, um, to the UK and I was like, You know what I can I was willing to open to that point, you know, or one of my fights in my early career and just like being being being being more tame and believing my team wants to start like looking elsewhere and I need to move I need to move if not broke don't fix it right and winning with these with these guys what I need to move So I started believing in my team, believing in myself. I was able to older get a more learned game and I started the game and that's it really.

He's good. He's a good fighter.

A little bit, a little bit. But at the time of the game, I didn't look at the game and just say, well, look at the game now, right? I approached it from a defensive point of view. So I went into the thinking told him to hold him take me down, don't take me down. You know, I wasn't able to, with a defensive mindset towards the contest, you know, and that's a total wrong way to approach to get a approach. I felt like that, and that's how I played out.

Yeah, things, um, yeah, think it through, um, tie up in some areas that I need to tighten up on. And it gives me time to grow just physically and mentally and all because when we when in training camp, you're not really learning much really. He's prepared for this. Um, certain opponent what a shot's gonna use for this opponent, you know, and I mean, I really fire through times a year. That's like, that's a lot of camps, you know, and you're not growing much in between because I was like a month done back in camp again, you know, so so what is like the difference between like a training when when you're in camp versus when you're trying to learn and grow like what kind of shitty work and all Everything so when you try to load when you can't you you're doing specifics to this opponent, so okay, let's say it's guys are a wrestler. I won't throw like like like kicks earlier in the fight because you're gonna take me down. So you're mimicking again for this guy, but when you not got a fight coming up. Like I have been in the last year and a half. I got time to just free grow my skillset. And if you want to learn, I'll learn it. No, because I ain't prepared for nobody and preparing myself and grow myself, you know, so that's all I've been doing. I've worked in my wrestling matches. So my striking, everything just been trying new techniques up, you know, trying out different stuff. That's it. It's especially my eyeballs, you know, I'm gonna work my eyeballs and just I didn't need to. Some awesome.

No, I leave, I leave. Cause I know you're going to Vegas. Yeah, yeah. I got, I go Vegas and I'm, today. And then I'm, I leave him one day. A little back to you came one day. Damn, it's too bad.

Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I didn't, um, like crowd event lives. I didn't do that. I picked a much like this.

I thought my coach is, I was like, how should I prefer it that? It was like quick, you know, it was like in and out, you weren't like no, I get it for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Free more fights here on with the fuck. So it was a quick, you know, no time to think around, like, make an energy get you, just like, you get, you get the wrap warm up, walk fight.

This is crazy for those two giants. I don't know, I don't know who benefits the pro Francis right because if it's coming out explosive like it did. You need to come out and strike. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if it does that then his two steps in the back of the cage. So that's the problem.

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. I'm going to be there. I don't want to miss that. Yeah, either powerhouse friendship. I mean, Vegas, his hands are shaking his hand. He's like, it's a good giant break.

It's different though right when you believe in your power.

He's coming to his own. Yeah, I think he's believing in his health as well. Especially his cardio, you know, he's known I can go five rounds in all means. I like watching him.

Yeah.

Um, yeah, I think he's probably get steeper this time. This is just more the cage. You know, it's tough though, man.

Yeah, I just went to the bottom shot was good. Oh my god to just mid fight. That was incredible. That's

Yeah, Kane, Kane, Calcutta. Kane was a monster. Yeah.

Yeah, you know in the primes as well in the primes came versus feet are would have been fucking amazing Yeah, call it a game of animal is when June the Santos and you just from around the thing is fight number two just set the pace of his faces all like He puts a piece on you that's inhuman Yeah, I was watching it thinking I don't know how he keeps that pace of five rounds, you know, but it did it.

Yeah, he sets the pace and keeps it. That's that's good about it. You know, you don't really fade really. No. He keeps it pace. And he's and he's wrestling and striking. Isn't there a friend? You know, he's not like lying on you and trying to lie on you. He's like, he's constantly being shared with you. He was in wrestling.

Yes, I thought I was going to tell you, right? It's just trying for a thing, you know, you're injured.

Yeah. But if it was a lot that, you probably wouldn't wouldn't as good as he is, maybe. So it's like, we do go, you know?

Um, a little bit. I kind of know how to my body and body feels, you know? Um, such as I know in the morning and wake up, I feel like I'm going to have a light day today. You know, if I can tell, I'm a body feels and, um, to what I'm going to do that day. So, let's say I got like two sessions scheduled in. I probably missed my morning one and then go to my evening one or, for full fuck, then I'll take the whole day off. So, I know, I'll tell you this is my body and white knees and how to win to push them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get massages every week in camp. I do the coral therapy, the cryotherapy. Yeah, I say, um, the cold chamber once a week as well. So he's both, I do, I do both of them. Um, this camp is using car practice, um, cut like a bed like injuring my mama back now.

Head side. Cause of the way. Yeah, I hate it. I did it once before in Brazil. Uh, never again is now hate it.

Um, so normally I'm like, But night KG I don't know what what what's that impound.

Yeah, I'm well, you cageed.

So, yeah. Yeah, it's 12. I think, yeah. Yeah, we just KG's stones. I don't know about pounds. I don't know about pounds. I don't know where myself and pounds are like the fuck. What do I do?

Hey, you wait.

Not heavy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so Squat.

Yeah, I don't know, but I was just KG. So even my nutritionist is like, what do you weigh? I'm like, like, five week normal like 80 free KG, five week. Then I cut down from there to to make waterway. So yeah, I don't know where we came from.

Yeah. So it depends, I almost got to get off, but I would love for about four days, probably. So Sunday, two, about Wednesday. So it's not a drastic cut. Man, I like to get it down in camp, right? I don't like to crash the way. I think it misses up your strength in your cardio. For sure. If you crash it, right? So I like to get it down to a point where I'm comfortable cutting it, you know, so Yeah, he's not really bad.

That's a much, much, much, much, much and put on too much. He's a bit of a detrimental to your performance. I tried to maintain it a little bit to not crush it.

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Um, yeah, but in boxes kind of like ruined the box and it's all right because it's seven different belts and different work classes is like well to wait like four champions in there is like that's this that's happening kind of an MMA with all the different champions and different organizations

No, I know, but I think it and more way classes is water water it down and maybe but then but you're you're built for 70 like it works.

Yeah. Is it tried it, right? And yeah. I think if you build this body a little bit more, you do it in more success. All it did is didn't cut weight and just went to fight. I was John Jones. He's been building that for you. Yeah.

And I was doing good. He was catching him with good shots. The big guy holding the shots.

Yeah. He's good.

Oh, I wonder what way put it's not down to to having success now and his lack of air, you know? I wonder what it is?

Even the way you approach the fight, it's the awful isn't it's not out, class him on the feet, you know? Well, it's a good man on the feet, you know? It's out, jabbing him in there for, you know?

Yeah. You know, I think it's been for like three generations of fighters right?

But, you know, yeah, I think it's going for the goal. I think I think John should be to go. There's, it's hard to say, because there's a lot of classes, right?

Like I said, it's been for free generations of files, you know, it could be, it's good for what you did, but you don't in a short period of time, right? So I think if you're at a longer career, probably, yeah.

I love to see him versus Francis.

Yeah, he thought it knocked out on blaze double week.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was good. It's a good shot, but I don't for me of course not my shots It depends if you find, and what stands to go for me, he'll put the hardest shot to lend.

It's a scary. The powerhouse is good. If my friends is probably, if I pick, you know, it's a good fight though.

Yeah.

So fucking giant.

I love to learn the spinning cycle. There it is. Oh, which I had a bag here. Yeah. I love to learn. I've been trying to do it, but I was even when neither too high or something. It doesn't feel solid, you know?

You're like, I'm missing the bag.

You landed with your heel, right? Yeah.

I've never stopped in the water.

Good.

You got it on here?

As it went to kick as though, right? Yeah. It sucks.

I don't want to stop to the one of you to see with it. I think it's been a while. I know

Now, it's a good technique for sure.

There's a lot I want to say. Yeah. Keep boxing like little gloves, right? Yeah. I like watching that. Can you kind of use it for whatever may, right? To what the techniques are used. Because some people, cause smaller gloves, your block is different. Mm-hmm. What do these guys do? Yeah. Let's do this dude.

Yeah, it's the top of it's like, but we can use it as all the set-up wheels spinning. This is all right.

Yeah, right? You really can't get away from range is all right. Different range. Oh, over crowd you with the shots. Exactly. Exactly.

I tried to do it before. I found a good talk on the coaching, okay, to just use the site. I told him I was awesome, right?

I don't need to talk wonderful.

How'd you set it up for more? Let's say that I'm soft poor, right? Yeah, they're going to was more right than you spin right?

So it's like a land in the solarplex. Yeah, it's like a knee when you're not a good knee in the solarplex. Oh, yeah, takes it. We're not human body shots like a crazy technique. Right. Just shut your body down. Yeah, if you land it properly.

Yeah, now I'm trying to find some good. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to find some. I'm good around us is like hey kicks body kicks. Well, I think I don't forgot to it's the return.

Yeah, keep you balanced. Yeah, I mean, you're keeping your leg here. I'm like for it over.

Yeah, that's how it bounced off. Oh, I work on it's a good technique to use, you know. I'm always interested in adding, adding to my arsenal. Yeah. I saw adding my elbows and saw using my elbows, and I got going to Nelson with a good one, you know, in RDA. And even Kyle Boy, he was a good technique. I realized in MMA, the inside fighting, not many fighters of the school and fighter in the inside. They get to like, like, lock up over on the inside, grappling all the way through leg stomps, knees at the body. They're not very scored in school and like using the tie-up to opening for elbows, infinitesis, you know, so I thought I'd add that to my arsenal and it's been working good. Have you done any training in Thailand? No. Did you ever want to do that? I love to go out of the go to it. I always say every year, I'm going to Thailand this year, but I never get to go.

Yeah, I mean it's just I watch on YouTube is like oh, it's a padman, right? It was like oh That bad kick kicks him the night he goes to kick the night his kicks his legs away. Yeah, you could have a fight. You're learning fucker.

It's crazy. It's not big even right in the UK anyway. It's not like a popular sport, you know, like paid pay much in, but it's weird really. It is weird because everybody likes to tan it.

They have like look at glory, glory is big.

Yeah, to be fair, not being unique. Unfortunately. Well, I went to watch Rico. Um, butter. Yeah. Um, and I went about it. It's fine. I come in and we vote. I don't want to hold into watching this. I've 35,000 people in the arena. Oh, they don't fuck around. Oh, they don't fuck around. It came to the UK to have a fight and didn't sell much, you know. But when I went to Holland, I thought it would be the same thing, but it's like a big arena with very far as the people.

I like to watch him. Yeah. He's combination together. Yeah.

I love boxing because it's got a long history behind it, you know, and you can trace it back to back in like back to slavery days and stuff like that. So that's the result of boxing, you know, I love to watch like old school documentaries and just the mindset of the fighters back in the day in a way where they approach their game.

I mean, watching you and Tyson was on the podcast, right? He's like, he's running into snowscarving water. Yeah. And I was trying to find it all week before. Oh, man.

Yeah. I mean, like, top of the war in the YouTube.

I can't find it. No way. I'm not way to see it. I'm not trying to find it.

Yeah, a lot of hagglers are watching all the week, which is weird, right, because I'm watching hagglers for like about a year, two years, I haven't watched them, but for some reason, I just felt that energy last week, um, five week. So from Sunday to, um, I've got to go to Vegas, so just watch them, watch them, watch them. I was posting my Instagram even posted my Instagram all week I was posting them and then just before left to go to the apex I was watching his fights then I went to my room to have I have I have a little on rest then I got a message that I at least did as I and about just posted him like I ever go is that that's fucking crazy crazy Yeah, well, I can say it's discipline and the way the way it worked and that's in inspiration to me, you know, and I watch a documentary that in first 30 fights, it didn't get paid no more than like $12,000 or something. Okay, we do with no, like no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Like for example, Ali, you know, I know to a lot of punishment, but for some reasons, some people get it, some people don't get it. What do you think that is?

Big God Larry Hall.

I don't spot, I can't, but in camp, I spot, you know, but on nine camp, I don't spiral. I do like, I do like, I was a restless barring juts this bubble. I don't do headshots, spot, but in camp, I saw headshots. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was different, right? It's like, oops, he works, he works, he works, he works, he looks, fucking great. Can't argue with that. So it's like, you can't argue with him, right?

You know, he's that durable as well, you know, he's yeah, you know, he knows what he's doing. But he doesn't throw like power shots. He's like yeah, just in your face, you know, touching touching touching and I like him. He's good.

That's a good fight. That's a good fight. That's a good fight. Yeah. That's a good fight.

Right. It's not easy. Right. You can't judge him from that performance because that's not his work. Let's see. He tried. Well, that's not his work. Let's you know.

But then it's going to be hard to come back down to 85. Maybe I was like, if I was, I wouldn't do it again, not now. Anyway, unless I want to move up permanently, then I build like John Jones is doing build my body into it. Yeah.

Yeah. If he can win. I think they want to fight Dervantetta's daughter. Yeah.

Nice, tough. That was a good fight. I probably would die in, but I think that'd be a good fight.

No.

I'm trying to remember. I'm tough, right? Did it? Did they? Not indeed. I don't know. I saw a picture over there, it was like loafing tough clothes. I don't know if it's in the house together or what.

Some side kicks like those didn't need as well. It's a good technique to use against wrestlers anyway.

I know people say no, I should make it illegal.

He used it though, right?

I think that's what it's like.

It's like, I will, uh, 12 to 6. I will. Put that back in. Yeah, put that back in. Yeah, put it in front back in there. You can do every, over angle.

That's where it came from.

That's so dumb. That's mad. I didn't know it was a reason. It's the reason.

Yeah, that's a little harder than that. Yeah, I think I can generate more power. Um, Detroit and coming down this way.

Yeah. Yeah. So I finish it, put it back in there.

I think if it was her right if it's generally her then I think it's justified but if it wasn't her and it just didn't just get a ton of then it's different but it was a clearly an illegal shot was clearly illegal but why is that illegal?

But what about, like, put them in the middle? Yeah, but why?

Yeah.

Yeah, what is what shows to you that you know, what is like we did you're the line? Yeah, it's a doing line somewhere so I guess I guess like Stamps I don't believe Stamps should be like legal Stamps on the foot to head. Oh, you don't think it should be illegal No, yeah, it should it should be illegal. Yeah, that's like a member pride with these. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

He had a wild shirt for the general public.

Yeah, they have gloves. I think it's just change. But if you if she looked looking like changing the gloves, I don't know what you could change it to the question, you know, Onix, Trevor Whippens company has the best glove.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just padded there, right? Nothing stops it from doing this.

Yeah, I've finished at least looking to do something to do something. It's been the same gloves now for however. Forever. Yeah, forever. So that boxed right there to like leave up from back in the day. Yeah.

That's it.

I don't go to think it's going to grapple, right?

You don't get to like, you kind of, you kind of, you know, grips and you want to feel the grips right now.

That's what I feel. I don't think I feel like, you know. Feel the grips. I feel the gloves that can like probably start slipping off or whatever is when you're solid because I'll play around the grips differently.

Um, once a week. Once a week. That's right. I, I, I, I, I, I wrestle, I wrestle, I wrestle, um, through times a week, through four times a week, you know, so I like grappling. I don't really focus much on, on GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG, you know, I just do, I do all do grappling, you know, which is war wrestling, open Matt wrestling, um, rolling. So, Um, yeah, I never really and I used to, but I was like, oh, they're kind of just do specific for the sport I'm doing. It was MMA. I don't care about not being a blackout, you know? You don't care at all? Um, my coach is cute after. I hate the gear, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's fucking, I think it's stupid because you're fucking, you're grappling with it with a guy. He's grabbing your collar. He's like, he's not realistic, you know, but if you're free-flowing, you got no top point. free movement and it's better for me, you know, but my coach is gonna tell me I need to do it to get my belt, but it's gonna do it.

Um, it definitely makes it more tighter. You know, I mean, when a roll guy that's that that do the game, they're different more like, more tight, you know, but um, for me, I was on the potato and me, right? I'm not, I don't want to compete in the jujitsu. Yeah. No, never, you never want to. Um, I used to know the kid. I know as younger, um, I used to like do like the tournament and stuff like that, but um, now I was on the farm up my game and right, I'm amazed. Everything we do, yes, we fit into M&A. Right. So yeah.

Yeah, I think it's hard to like take time off to go do like a pure digital competition. Also, you can get injured. Honestly, I was actually getting injured. And so yeah, I think everything you do should do it. So it benefits you. And what you're going to do in MMA, you know, it should. Oh, not like teammates that do compete in both MMA and digital. I mean, they enjoy the digital, but I enjoy I enjoy MMA, enjoy do you know all of it?

Um, yeah, 100% I love striking a lot of boxing a lot of kickboxing. So is this possibility for sure? You know, I mean depends on opportunity what comes up. I love a boxing fight more than anything. I got a good good boxing when I'm like a weird one right I cannot adjust my style to do what I want to do so if one of them do I can go to a boxing gym I can be a boxer you know I can same guard that day they have and so yeah I think it depends on opportunity.

It depends on how fat he ate. Probably 37, 38. Yeah, I don't know. I might get to fight seven. I feel good. I keep going.

Yeah. Science is actually having had a recover better. Yeah, exactly. So it all depends on what 10 years probably. Then I probably hang it up so I'll teach in.

Yeah, I want to, um, I'm all about giving back, right? So that's, um, I started like a charity as well with me, me, Darren Till, um, Jim and my nowhere in the UFC to do with, um, knife crimes in the UK because in the UK, also guns are illegal, not even the police care guns, you know, but knife crimes in the UK is like, big, you know, so I saw the charity that's going to help with like at-receive that's involved in stuff like that and we'll partner with the police with a charity that's called legacy in the UK, they're already in the field and we're trying to basically go there teach classes if the kids also show up and behave then we'll pay for that gym membership for the year and Just look for that. And if you're going to give him back, that's my passion. What is the name of your charity? It's called knife crimes. I've lost so many friends from knife crimes. that if you can do anything to give back and to help, that's my passion.

It's big. It's crazy. You got stabbed the nom. Far was there. It's fucked up. It's causing, it's causing cold them out. They felt like help, basically. On Far was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's door out. Door out with him. If I can took his door to, to, um, in the car, to go pick his cousin up and then fucking, got stabbed, which is fucking, and I'm bled out on the floor in the neck. Oh, Jesus Christ. So yeah, and if you can do it to like help with anything to do with that, I'll help you know.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. That's what I said. I wanted to say why I want to achieve being a World Champion coming from where I'm coming from right so I can Just to show them that if you can touch it, like I said, it's more realistic, so that's my passion to give back to these young kids and especially kids at risk or coming from broken homes or poor families. If you can help one or two help them, that's it.

I want everybody to know. Same, it's getting there, you know? I think fight by fight will come. I think I'll see getting more push from the US here so it will be a good desire, you know what I mean? So, yeah, fight by fight and more beat these guys out there. And the more beat the guys, that's good. Yeah, they're really going to show them right.

Well, I would like to be back straight away, because that files out 100, right? I do get to get it to get in my flow. Straight away, really, definitely the same may, well, we're trying to get Cole Coventon, right? So we'll see what he says. Probably may early June, may.

So we'll see what I want to be active to see at a long year and a half off. So if I'm getting back in the mouth, I'll keep hanging them out.

I'm a fan. I appreciate you.