Transcript for #83 - Bas Rutten

You know what? Did you see they they call it like the jerk off cups. They have like cups in Japan and you and you I swear to God and has a little like cello thing on it. You know so to keep it moist and it's a little hole in it and it's actually you can use it in a throw away my body. Yeah, we went up to the Room, my buddy goes right away. He says, man, they're reusable, let's say. That was not right. The best was that my other friend, he forgot it in a little paper bag. And there were some poor magazines in the bag also. So when we left, there was a Tokyo in Hilton to Hilton Hotel. We walked up in this little girl. Goes like, sir, you forgot your and she looks in there.

They're all this small.

Yeah. So the whole cup, the whole cup.

I guess you have to make a hole in the other side.

I, I, I, I, I worked, I, I used that already post-strikes when I was a bouncer. Oh, I didn't like to mess up my fist. So, and I always thought, you have a way longer reach, like friends is a left-to-grade straight. You know, that combination is, it's great. But if you, if you connect with the left hook, you're too close for the straight punch. You see, and the longer the punch is the more power it has. So, I say, why don't I eat with a poem? You know, because then it becomes almost as long as my straight punch. So, the straight will have more effect. You know, and then people started thinking and I said, and if you hit behind the air, if you can see when I'm fighting, I'm hitting right here, just behind the air at the jaw, when the jaw starts. And if you tap it there, you'll drop.

How did you start doing those? It was the funniest thing. I made the big boss ridden's big books of combat. And then I promised that the first three other people were going to get a self-defense book, a small one, a small book like 50 pages book or something. But then this guy screw me over with the books. And when it all happens, you know, I left this guy, but I came back to him. I said, listen, I told the people that the first three hundreds were going to get it. And I want to keep my words. But I don't want to do anything with this guy anymore, because, you know, it took too much for me already. So anyway, we said, why don't I make a video? We do an instructional DVD and then we give that to the first 300 people. Oh, that's great. And she said, what do you want to say? Well, get the camera. It was like totally non-scripted. You know, when we started at the bar, how funny was that? You know, that I go around the bar and I see a little, what do you call it? It's a saucer or something. I said, okay, well, this, you can throw at him to distract. You can break it. Now it's got sharp edges. You can slice him.

It is a crazy place, you have to watch out, and you know, I wasn't in that era that they really started to come with the weapons. I was always fortunate to know to The big guys would come in and they would actually give their guns to us, you know, we put them to the side. And when they come in with their guns, oh yeah, and they will be starting for them before they went in. Yeah, it was crazy. You know, one guy, it was high up. It was actually cool because I worked there only for two weeks. It was a big place, the galaxy and set open bus. And very no place, a good big way, had some epic fights there, man. Really cool. And this guy, well, shit, anyway, something broke out. And right away, the big guy, the guy was on the top of the letter. He grabbed me from the front and he bare hugged me. And he says, we're just going to stand like this. And I said, whoa, I just want to take the worst one, the most dangerous one, I just want to hold you with like this. So that was kind of a compliment because all the other monsters heard it. They go like, who's this guy? And then the world starts to travel, you know how to go.

It's the bunch. The bunch is really think that they can do something. And I don't know why, maybe it is because they got more of them. And they think, you know,

I had that deal that whole bar fight in Sweden happened and after that for some reason I never had it anymore.

Well, I walked in. What year was this? Oh, God. I don't know. I was like 96 or 7.

Oh yeah, yeah, I was there for seminar people knew me, you know, and the bounces right away when I came in they say hey Routin stay calm tonight, and it wasn't a little alarm bell going up in my mind, you know, maybe I shouldn't go in, but I go, huh? I was drunk already. Why not, right? So I go in with my buddy, crazy friend from Holland, that house, and and sure enough, they started, they suddenly asked me because I'm jumping around and having fun, you know, hey, but so I pay for top everybody and I mean, I try to make friends with everybody, try to speak Swedish. You know, and they say, can you come with us? So we go to these two doors, two doors, and there's a big fire stairs, like a marble stairs giant. And he says, well, we want you to leave. I said, why? So well, you're too much energy, you're flopping around. It's not good. You're bothering the customers. I said, sure, okay, but K you tell my friend, my buddy's over here, he's also from Holland, the K you tell him that I'm gone, because otherwise, you know, he can't find me. So they didn't expect that. They thought I was going to do something, of course, so he pushes me. And I said, I want you to push me. I said, I want to go. It's okay, you know, I don't want any trouble. And he stopped putting his finger on my chest, which is something I really can't stand, right? So I said, okay, don't touch me because if you do that again, it's going to go wrong. I'm sure enough that we're looking for a fight, of course. He did it again, so I pushed him. And another guy behind him jumped over him and he stabbed the finger in my eyes and said, guys, come on, let's stop this right now. I don't want to boot my other eye. And there I went boom. And there I went down. He went down like one point, so I've never seen anything I heard and over the music. Yeah, that was the wildest thing ever. And then they had these little microphones, right? So yeah, I don't know, but fast. It was like five guys, four, five guys. And they started finding one, the guy that I knocked out constantly because he would wake up, right? And everything went good and went good. But then I started realizing, wait a minute. This, these guys are gonna come back up all the time, you know? This is gonna come to an end. They gotta get a hell out of here.

I had to get out of there. And there's one part, and Phil, this day, I had no clue what this was. I'm, I'm falling against the wall, and there's a hole in the wall, you know, with the little, um, like bar in front of it, and there's broomsticks. broomsticks. But no, brooms on broomsticks. Just, So I'm grabbing one, but right away when I grab one, I think to myself, I say, if I grab one, they're going to grab one.

It was wild and then I had to get that out there. So I went all the way down and I remembered that this day was a door that you know one of these copper things that you have to push in and then open up so I click and it's closed and I'm going okay And now what, you know, so I turn around and I thought, okay, now I'm gonna go only 40 ice. I'm gonna hit him in the throat. I'm gonna kick him in the balls. There's the only thing I'm gonna go for now. And they looked at me and they all stabbed back. So I go, whoa, they can't see.

So they throw me in jail. And because apparently one of those bonuses was a cop. And yeah, and I knocked him out, of course. Also, but he never told me that he was a girl, but nobody's up and I've done that. Anyway, we're there, and this is also, this is actually the funny story, because before this all happened, I'm talking to my wife, and I'm already tanked, right? And she says, why are you laughing? Why have so much fun? I said, I'm drunk. I'm having a lot of fun. She's no, you're there with two Swedish blonde girls, I said, I don't worry about you, no, me. If I'm drunk, you know, I don't care about anything, especially not that. I just want to have fun. So after two days, they allowed me to give my first phone call. And I'm calling my wife. And she's freaking out. So honey, you got to be, okay, relax. Well, I said, I got some good and some better news. Why you want to hear first? She's a good news. I said, I didn't fuck through Swedish girls.

I think that's a hell of a story.

You know what? I asked them if they press charges and they said no. So I said, OK, I'm not going to press charges either. But apparently, they did press charges. And then I had to go to court. So I get this lawyer. And also, they drive me from the normal police station to jail, right? This is like a move, Joe. You drive into a mountain and the road stops in the middle of a mountain. out this elevator like two elevators I don't know if I go in the elevator I go like four stories up I go out they can other elevator go like two down go out take another elevator go like things up I go oh my god what am I you know was so weird jail with I was sitting there with like murders and rapists it was the wildest thing ever but all the older all the guards knew me so I had a VCR I had coffee cookies. I was playing cards with the guards. They actually gave me my phone. They said, I call. Yeah, it was nice. So then the lawyer comes to the lawyer goes, I say, OK, so when can I go? And he said, well, you're probably going to get like six to nine months. I said, well, back up now. I said, what? He says, yeah, one of them was a cup. I see you're kidding, I said, but they started it, you say, well, they fight against one, you know? You can't say anything. So anyway, it went to court and my friends, some friends were suiting, they started, they talked, apparently they talked to those guys and they said, man, come on, take your charges back, and that's what they did. Wow. Imagine six months. Yeah, that was weird. Man, that was like a movie, like a movie with a guy from a high leather. Remember, he made a movie one time in a jail somewhere really weird. And then when you had to let you out you know to go you're one hour a day it was like a circle and it was divided like like a pie like an eight And but with the fans like you she fans like that in eight so you would you have a piece of pilot a you know, that's based to yourself from here to you to the world. Wow.

No, not in the same cage. Everybody has a room here. How weird. That was wild. Yeah. Scary stuff. Because it's funny now.

They had, uh, it is the suicide rate as the highest in the world. That really, yeah. Japan is too, but Sweden is one I had. Wow. Wow.

You know what I mean? It's like the flight over. That was a funny story too, because I would go up my crazy friend from Holland, right? So we get thanked on the plane and he says, I got to go to the restaurant and I said, well, go. But he sits here that the aisle is next to me and he sits on the other side. He said, well, but they just turned the light on because we're landing. I said, what are you going to do to get the stuff playing?

He goes to the rest of my people complaining complaining, you know, and finally he comes back. And he wants to get in, this before 911, okay? He wants to get in and I say, no, you can't go in and I look to the front and I see the pilot there. This is true story to the sweaters and the doors open. I say, I want you, I like you and if you go to the front and touch the pilot's head.

And you put his hand on his head. And people like, oh, you can't do this with, but not as bad. So for some reason, they let us into the country. Wow. That was the one. Skate, you made you think it happens now?

It's a little bit of a candidate for a long time. You could go with your driver's license, too, right? Two candidates, yeah.

You got trouble at the border there all the time for some reason they always get me out. I have no clue why that is.

Yeah. Yeah, just a big Roy the guy one time standing there all messed up and he goes, get any Roy to the back.

Yeah. I did that same line or nothing. I did the same line twice, also in America. Same thing. I came back from Japan. Same guy.

Yeah, yeah, you know, but he's one of those just to be a man.

six meals a day. How much pork? Well, that's the guy took that's a romsky. No, no, no, that's a romsky. The strongest men, Puchinowski, Puchinowski. They were saying that he ate like a handy and bacon. They have a 12 part of bacon or something like a day something. He turned purple.

Yeah. He got purple. Like the weirdest color.

Yeah, I always said it. I never cared about it. I never cared if somebody said, oh, he's on Royce. I said, you know, to me, it is that you're insecure already. You know, there's something wrong with you because you're not happy with yourself. Let's go to that and that bullshit thing that they say, you know, but everybody does it. I mean, it's insane. I did this. For the amateurs, they, you know, they did the chemo. I'm the board of the chemo. Right.

Yeah. And they asked me to speak to the guys, you know, to help them out in the future once they're pro, what to watch out for. And then the last, the most important thing, what is the most important thing to say? And I said, well, don't do roach. I mean, if you if you already did Roach or are thinking about doing Roach, I mean, you might as well stop your career because in this particular stage right now if you're already thinking about it, you're going to fail. You're going to be a loser because you you went Roach. I never got that and how dangerous it is that you know what I hear the EPO you know people doing that. I go mad. It doesn't make you blood really thick.

Yeah, otherwise it can have a heart attack or something like that.

It's coming out like lava. I was talking to a Joe McCarthy and I said you know what the new or no, no, he asked me so she know what the new was the drugist like a for finding I said tell I said Foyagra and he goes how do you know that? I say I ran an article about it like a week before that and apparently guys are doing that taking Foyagra and apparently Foyagra is one of these wonder things. It's really good for your kidneys, for a blood pressure, for, I mean, I read an article in, um, yeah, that's why I tell you. It's some magazine and it was like raiding about it. It's a real good medicine apparently, but can you imagine?

And how did you manage to do that? Not full health. not full health. My knees were very bothering me and one of the worst things that I have is tendonitis in both my arms. And if that hits, if that starts, then it's... I don't know.

Yeah, help. Do you have ever had... Yes, I have. Okay, now I have both here in the arms upstairs. And if it hits, it's about a 45 minute hour. a pain which is unimaginable. It's right. Yeah, you have no clue. It's like coming from the outside. It's like, you can't describe it. There's no pain like it. And there's nothing you can do. You can take pain pills for nothing. Wow. I have to write it. I would lose weight. You know, so when I made that comeback in 2006, six weeks before it hit it. You know, I had nine weeks to prepare. I think two times three times five days I took off. that I literally only worked my legs, because I had to tend to notice. And then, because you lose weight from the pain, and then I start realizing, okay, this is the reason that I stopped, because it's not fun anymore. You know, you're in the ground, everything hurts. I was rolling with, uh, in Eddie's class, and with Goliath, you remember the big guy there? And I was going to fight Leo Bolo. And he very much looks like him like built a man get a role with you because I need to just get up and just strike get up. And I had to tend to night us and I'd man everything was hurting and I could see everybody look like, oh, is this boss who doesn't know? So I go, okay, my please give me number. You know, so I got his number at five this later. I said and I took five this off set come back again, and he was like, whoa, what's going on now because it's a whole different ball game. But so that means that every time when you train with that, it man, it It's so much pain that, yeah, you lose weight, you can't eat. You know, yeah, tears of your eyes from the pain as well.

I have no clue. And you know what? I realized that beginning in the early days when I did trek and field. I already had it there. I think that it comes from all the cordi zones that I took. I was a very sick kid. Bad asthma, bad agema everywhere. And they gave me a lot of cordi zones. You know, the horse, we're afraid somebody was going to happen at the end. And that has an effect I hear when you're skeleton. You know, it melts, they say, but I guess if it's

Yeah, I got bullied a lot. I was a very lonely kid. I was I was in the trees. I was I had a really cool skill. I could climb in a tree in the forest and I could like 45% of the forest I go from tree top to tree top. I would say swinging. Yeah, why don't the next way? Yeah, they would float if they would come out to me. I'm pretty good. Yeah, and I climbed in a tree.

Yeah, that's what I did. And a few of them fell. You know, one was almost, they almost didn't make it. You know, I mean, his hat fell like next to a rock. But that scared everybody so much that that was my Harvard. That was my safe Harvard. You know, every time something happens, I just climbed a tree. And it was it. But I think that that's where I got my athleticism from just climbing climbing all the

You get it. It's hard. You have to make sure that that the whole school note, like I would do, how do you say that? And I would tell there, if I would speak in front of those people that the bullies that they're, we gotta have sympathy for those guys, I mean, it was obviously something's wrong with them. They only can't team up, you know, to get somebody and they pick the weakest guy. I mean, seriously, if you guys think this is school, That's the biggest loser of the whole school and I think that human nature thing. It really is. It's like, it probably got beat at home, you know. And if you start talking like that, hopefully it brings a bell with a bully because otherwise you can't stop this.

I, we, we at KTLA this morning at a gym. I was, I was, I was, you know, you're gym.

It's on 80, 80.

I'm trade I'm teaching every day so it's not like my name is under Jim and I'm not there. I don't like this You know, and so KTLA was at your gym. KTLA was a gym. Frank Shammer because of my friend, Hulk McKellen, you the guy from lights out to the new TV show in FX. Great show. And it's a boxing show. Yeah, yeah, he's next heavyweight champion, you know, and now he's got to cope with all the problems. You know, the money has gone. It's kind of a little bit soprano, meets, rocky, meets, you know, like serious like that. And yeah, all of us were bullied also. Frank also was a little fat kid he said. And then he also, because he went to boarding school in Scotland, his father sent him over there. He was the only American there, so they went broke. And with me also, it's because of the axiomia and all of my asthma.

Yeah, they went ahead and had to take care of that, hardly fix that. I grew over there. You know what the biggest thing is, when I stepped into the states, when I was fighting in bankers, if you see some fights, you'll see, I still have everywhere, have spots. You know, and when I came into America, I think within a month, everything, I mean, you sort of almost disappearing, like, what's gone? I think also the climate, maybe I have something to do with? California climate? Yeah, I love it. This is actually, it's not too hard, not too dry, you know, it's, it's, it's perfect. It's pretty good place.

Like I said, I give it to the states and say, why doesn't everybody in America live here?

Yep. Yep. That and my knees. I have no cartilage on my kneecaps, really. Which sounds as a very easy thing to fix. In reality, it's the worst problem in a week and a half. I mean, the cartridge in between the knees, when a bunch, they could do something about that, you know, but cartridge on the knee cap, they can't.

But so there is a solution that my friends do you know it's it's hard they can't for instance they can put in me kept as a consummotion, you know, so it's not like you can put something on there and then because it gets Red off right away again, but it can do it's like drill a hole in there and then I put a Teflon plane in it But then the Teflon if you drill the hole the knee becomes 35% more weak So yeah, wait more chance to break the knee and watch you break a knee cap You know, that's why it was my doctor said that's why the above yours is they break your knee caps because that's like the worst thing to do to somebody

Man, the stuff that they can't do nowadays is bizarre.

It's a very hard thing to step away from. You know, to come back to it. It's very, when I have students of mine or friends of my fighting, it's a way more nervous than they are. It's like, because you can't control it. It's like sitting next to the driver, and they go fast, you go like, I wrote, I have the wheel, so I'm going to control here. You know, and that's now it's hard. There's no feeling like it like when you win or when you for six or eight weeks you work on like five special combinations, you know, underground and standing and then to see if if you get a land one of those and then 90% of the time you do, you know, it's something that you really were done and then you land that thing and then it's like a whole and one I guess that's what I always say has to be feeling like that.

And what you say, the thing is, can you always say, Can you bring the dojo, the way you fight and train there? And spar there. Can you bring that game to the ring? Because I can't do the problem. That's the thing. That's the big thing. The pressure.

Most of the time is that you see a guy when again hitting him at a hard bottom shot. You know, and it's most of them, the muscular guys, by the way, can get out and the big bone up dudes. When they hit somebody with their best bang and the guy recovers and comes back and then you see him go, and down, or they haven't made a submission and they think they had them and then the guy escapes. You know, that's like a mental break for them and they give up. It's like the weirdest thing you go, like, whoa, man, it's so good. I know so many fighters who are like that and I just do it again. Do it again, and make it a little bit more tight. Why won't you do that?

But it's afraid of losing in front of an audience because they have to listen to what those people are going to tell them where you should have done this. And Chris Lieben said, it's really funny a long time ago. He says, you got knocked out by a silver, right? And then he said, It's bad if you go to the bloodbuster and the guy behind the desk tells you what you should have done You know because everybody knows better and that's horrible and that's why I always say I say you fight for yourself You say your boss or you fight for your family and wife and your kids now I fight for me because that takes a lot of pressure off because really think about this and if if you have a fellow fighter and you go both into a room you lock the door you guys fight Do you really care if you lose? I don't think I really care. I love to win. But you know, I don't know. You know, he's the best man that day. He won that fight. Now, if it's in front of an audience, you gotta go to all of that BS that these other people say, we have no clue what it's all about. But just you know what I mean? It's all you're fighting for those people. And it's so much pressure. That's why I stay away from the, I'm going to rip his head off. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that because all that, they will play at the moment you walk to the cage.

Oh yeah, because that's why I never did that because you put a lot of pressure on you. Now I better do what I said.

There's only there's a few shit talkers who are actually really good, you know? Chelson and pretty good.

Josh Barnett's pretty good at it too. George Bernett is really good at it too. Yeah.

If you guys have noticed, tomorrow guys, Frank Shamrock was good at his smart comments make, and Tito made a whole career out of it. Also, you know, and everybody says, I said, those are not the guys that you see, you know, they're playing a smart game, Nick Diaz.

He loves it. And he's a really nice guy. You know, like him.

So that's the way psychological warfare is a part of fighting, right? That's it. Who can, I always say, he's got the biggest balls. Who can, you know, keep going, keep on going. That's why I always say stamina is the one number one thing. You know, that's one thing they can never say for me. My whole MMA career never run out of gas because that's the only thing you can control, you know, when you train. Go run an extra hill. I'm nothing for government.

my get the against the Darrell Golar the wrestler very good. I got him in a triangle at the gym and he lived me up and he slammed me down with my neck into the corner. He had to go long time. God knows the whole thing. I just had surgery comes from that all the way back and that was the injury. It was I have no clue but it was so painful. I had a daughter at the time. She was like nine months old and she could not lay on my chest. I was cuffing you know and everything was I would it was funny because I had this big syringe of light okay and I'm injecting myself in between my ribs. Oh my god, you have she comes in with the cameras, right?

And these guys are freaking out, you know, I said, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in, come in,

And my ribs, I used to many times that I would go to the fight and then when my wrestling shoes were going to be at to where she was at the banquet, they would be open like an ankle injury and I would wait until they called my name because one time I broke my hand at the knuckle. and they said, oh, we put the lighter cane in there and it's going to work for like an hour, but it's not, it's like 15 minutes, especially when your heart rate is up, it goes really fast.

So I did it on the, at the moment they would call my name. I would put it in and then hopefully I was not going to feel it.

Because you go, you know, I made a really bad trip Thank you very much. when it was running the day before it jumped on the plane and it was against Vernon Tiger White it was like my fourth fight or something similar to and and it's like it's unbelievable he takes me down and he goes for a toe hold on that ankle like I mean it's like I'm sending out a signal you know take this this is a weird signal because whenever I get a tattoo somebody fucking slaps me on where the tattoo it's always if you have an injury yeah here where you never get hit if you spar you're gonna get hit there it's that it is what it is if you hurt your hand for sure someone's gonna squeeze it when they shake it

Fucking strange. It's the same. You got two lines. You always pick the line that's the longest way. Yeah, this one is way longer.

Oh, what is the day? How much again? Oh, oh, sorry. I got taken on the one.

the opening movie so if you didn't have all these injuries do you think you would have kept going or do you think I think I would have kept going a few more more for more years yeah because it was not a problem not having stamina and you know I always been very blessed with my body you know not people look at me now the whole time they say oh my god how much you train well I didn't train for a year you know it's like I've just genetically really put together because of my dad my brother has the same he's a lawyer but he looked it's the same he's got no fat just good just good base good genes yeah the whole athletes the root inside you know so you know never the problem that The question was whether or not you would keep going because you know like I said or it's nothing like it but at the moment the fun is gone out of training will be so much fun for me because you know somebody every time you know when you roll every time something pops up oh god that's cool And then there's some new thing and then you start using a lot of people in the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and the works and

I get it.

I think it added on maybe, you know, that was the first time it got hurt though.

Between C4 and 5 and 5 and 6, my nurse were flat squashed. So I lost at the feet, my whole arm and shoulder. So now they home to holes open around it. They make so that the nerves are, they can breathe again.

Oh my God, that for Jose Aldo base, one of my favorite guys. That's not good man. This is a bad injury because this is going to take a long time. I mean, this is over two months ago, and I I noticed things like I can push brush my teeth the harder. She's a little bit harder when I watch other my armpit or I can shave my whole head now with a razor blade which I couldn't do before. Things like that but power wise. I do 15 pounds. That's it. Wow. Yeah, it's really it's really weak. So when you roll around it's it's not fun. You know, yeah, of course they attacked that arm. There we go again. Everybody goes in that. I had Jake giga was such he was over and his brother and his brother said that nobody could they could break his grip at an arm bar I have a really weird way of putting an arm bar on but the way I do it nobody can escape you know and I do that I control the hand I make sure that the elbow points up you know and I control the such a way that you aren't you can get out I can just cover your face the other leg I just can put away and you still can't get out really Yeah, and he said to me, uh, oh, but he's getting doing it to me. So I'm trying, trying, I can't break because apparently he's known for it. It's very strong. And he says, she's here. Go ahead and say, flip her out. He says, why I said, this is my wrong arm. So I could get us out of the go. I got him in the arm by the way. I said, listen, I can't do 15 pounds with this. You know, it's a very weak arm right now.

You know, it They say it's like a millimeter a day and it's two months ago, so that will be six centimeters. Go starting from my neck.

The nerve heals like a millimeter a day they say. Okay. Yeah, so nine months to a year, I should expect at least he said. It comes back because I was very late with it. They miss diagnosed me. So I walked around with this thing for a long time.

And the pain, all the hard pain that I had, that was the nerve apparently is a whole bunch of little cables he says. And outside there's the pain thing, you know, once you squished that, you know, you're already really far gone. And that happened with me. I had no pain anymore. And he says, man, that's the worst thing because That means that's already died.

I started actually. Yesterday at this I think on a two days ago I started running on a trapmill but only with the incline so I can roll in the balls of my feet so I don't have my knee shaking and I'm actually feeling okay today my knees so I figured okay if I can do that then I can at least start doing my sprints again that I used to be a freak man I could these these what I do is I run 10 miles 10 minutes 11 miles an hour that's the warm up And then I jump off I start stretching while I put the ink line all the way up go to nine miles an hour and then I jump on for 45 seconds and off for 30 and I do those 10 10 of those rounds after that I run like five minutes to run it out Done take a five minute break and then I do my power training workout. This is what when I was we had a top of my game because that's really hard So you would do your sprints first and then you would do your power train later Yeah, that everybody thought it was weird, but for me, if you do the park feeling first, it hinders you with your running. Sometimes I would do it to mimic the fights because that's what I think is the biggest problem with a lot of guys. They don't realize that you, you know, you pumping everything. You should do apps a lot of apps before you fight and stretch them out because what happens is your apps they start filling up with like that's the behind your app for your lungs and it's done that's why you see the right guys because they have the right away they go strong boom and then they drop and I think it really is because of the app's day because if they do 10 times this it stays like this right? It pops up. Well imagine that happens to your core and with everything while you're fighting you using your core, take the Audi fans everything. So that's not blowing up. Stop your long from breathing. That's why you get tired.

That's very important to keep them loose. To keep them loose and to stretch them out. This is very important. I would take before and fight also aspirin. You know, to make my blood thin, because in Thai boxing, I would never wear wraps. I don't like to have wraps around me. So I go bare knuckle in the gloves. And with the shoes, I hated those things. You know, this was totally Japanese rules, right? The pancreas shoes. Yeah, because what happens is those Japanese guys are really good on the ground. That's what they say. Okay, and the striking not so. Okay, so let's put them on shin guards. Let's put them on knee protection and push shoes because they're good with leg locks. And no gloves because they're good for the real naked choke channel. I mean, they're totally adaptable. When I left Bankbus, I think two, three months later, it was de-chased the rules. It was closed fist. I go, whoa, I've been waiting for a long time for this.

I, you know, I don't know. I have no clue. I think I'm so, uh, I'm very explosive. And I think over the years that just scraped off of my, my things are bold. They say they're bleeding bone marrow out of one knee. So it's like, yeah, it's like very painful, man.

Because it has no impact. You don't get the, uh, the tendonitis. Every fighter should use that thing like 12 days before the fight. Not to have you back anymore. That's what an accident happened. You know, you get tired, sweat on the back, but your gloves and slips or the wrist hurts. There's always things happen with a heavy bag. And they like to hit a heavy bag, which aren't it also because it's a cool thing. But there's always that moment when you hit really hard like a liver shot and you feel think And then I know, okay, tomorrow I got the 10 and 90s.

The body action stand. So what Apple was this? There's a long time ago or long time ago, like four years or something ago. My agent tells me that this woman wants to see me. They have a product. And it started out with the stand with two of those kicking things.

So I came to her and I was hangover hungover. It was one of the last period that I was still drinking.

You can smell it. I'm little hangover. Let me take a look at this thing and I call you back tomorrow. What I think. So I looked at the thing at the next day, I called back and said, okay, now this is what we should do. And I had this whole list ready. And she goes like, whoa, whoa, whoa, we thought you didn't notice anything else there. I said, oh, and then I came up to do a hat to do a body patch. You know, I make targets on there. And you know, but then it starts because people think this is an easy product. There's no cops from these things, right? They're already selling knockoffs. If you buy that thing, then that was our early stages, what you're going to have. They're going to flop around, they're going to break because you need to find a spring that is just right to not be too floppy and not too stiff. If it's too stiff, the whole stand will move. If it's too floppy, you can't knock it for the second punch because it's still moving. You know, it needs to be just right. Now the foam in there needs to be just right. Now foam, the density, the density, if it's really tight foam, it's heavier. So if you say, okay, this is a little bit too hard. I want different foam to put different foam but now because it's lighter. Then the spring needs to be changed again. So every time I got like 8 prototypes and I have to train on those things the whole time to see and find out which is watching what's the best way and the best form with what spring it took two and a half years. Really, two and a half years to find that. They hit that thing. I mean 30,000 times with him. She don't, don't, don't, don't. That thing when you buy a warm break. Two guys. There was two heads broke, but that was from a shipment that we right away took out because there was something with the glue that it didn't connect with the it was it was vaporizing or eating the glue. So it didn't work. There was too only we sent a new heads back and we never and we saw a lot of those things. Do you use those yourself? Do you use every time when I train? Yeah, what I now right now I can't I use a lot I can do hooks like she that's weird weird angle for me in uppercuts if I make 10 uppercuts the last uppercuts goes slow up because it's yes biceps now you really realize that you need your biceps in order to put your body weight into a punch you can't lock it up now a straight punch I'm okay with but hooks I can eat with the glove I can hit you as hard as I want to your belly. You're not gonna go down Yeah, it's really it's pathetic, but I look at it like I did you like having no wraps on I always have that I want to have my blood flow Keep going for some reason I have the feeling of this happens that it doesn't circulate anymore naturally It's a bathroom and you got a tight wrap.

Yeah, you go needed if you hit the right way all these guys are so Like Tyson, I'll always give you the example. Just know or just learn how to hit the correct way and nothing will happen. These guys, they come into the room and they got the special guys, they got a stitch there, on call every day, two times a day, wrap the hands perfect. He can hit it in any angle. It doesn't matter. So then, when you, when this guy, that's why when you had a street fight, he would always break his head, right? That's right. Because you don't know how to hit. He had some with a pinky or whatever, wrong technique.

You know, of course, it's always, it's, You have to, yeah, you know, especially in the crowd of at the cube she grew out of here sparring in as baronocle and some of these guys they have a key and some guys have their hips here, right? So that's how I broke this one also you had a hip you think you have to get the liver It's a it's a hip bone. Yeah, that dial hurt. That was the good thing it makes my slides because now you can see what you're hitting everything.

That was my first sport. Yeah, I did that for about I don't know, four weeks or six weeks, and I was already beaten up the Brown Bells. You have to understand my parents are very conservative. They were never allowed me to do a martial art, but I always got bullied. And I saw Bruce Lee movie in 76, and to the dragon in France when we were in the holiday. And I came out and said, that's it. I want to be Bruce Lee, you know? So I made these new chucks.

I had the whole onions. I was really... So I asked my parents, please, please, please, please, but they wouldn't allow me. So I kept going and kept going, training myself, so watching moves and just kept training. And then finally after two years, they said, OK, stop that crisis. Go. And we had a neighbor, the girl next door, she had a boyfriend. It was the cool guy from the town. And he said, OK, come with me. He took him kind of under a swing. And I went really good. I started being up like I said to Brown Bell, so I was like within six weeks. So I said, man, you got a good feeling, show my confidence rose. And at that moment, I was driving and riding my bike on the street. And the biggest bully comes with six of his buddies or something. and they set something and I shouted something back and they all laughed, we're laughing and they right away came after me and when I saw them coming from me I stopped my bike and I put it down and it was just waiting for the guy and then the biggest bully comes to me and you spook you know that in the early days you push with your chest and you push against my chest and I go bough and he goes down, broke his nose out Anybody more? Nobody did anything. I come home. Police was already home. And that was it. No more type one for me, sir. But I moved out of the house when I was 21. You know, that's when I started fighting.

You know, this is, it's cool. We got time, right? Yeah. Okay, cool. Now, um, Let me go back. Let me see. I was fighting Thai boxing in Holland. I want a lot of fights but not. I like my first 14 fights I won by knockout 13 in the first one.

No, 14 men's two losses. I fought this guy who wasn't jail for a long time. Frank Lottman, a very powerful fighter, had a record like 52 with like three losses and like 48 knocked out some monster. Apparently, I was a bouncer at the time. Apparently, on New Year's Day, when I was bouncing, I was also drunk. Oh, that's an example of it. And somebody asked me if I wanted to fight him. And I say, sure. So in, I think, at the end of January, I get a phone call. They asked me where to send the posters to. And I say, what posters from the fights? So it was going to fire you against Lopman. And I go, who? We'll set that. He said, you, you told me that you got to fight it for it. So now they had posters already. I go like, OK, you know, like, might as well. Yeah, I got to do it now because otherwise you're going to think I'm scared, right? So I had about five weeks to train. Now you get understand that I got tired. from jumping rope at the first time. I was so out of shape it was not even funny. So anyway, I go to the fights and I just had my knee, my shin at this here. There was a huge hole. I did some crazy stuff and a wall. There was a wall I jumped on. I was always really good in jumping up like a randle milled it. You know, I could jump this high like on my chest here. I would stand in front of it and jump on a wall. But I had been raining and I jumped on him. My toes slid off and I landed on my shin on it. So the rip my shin opened. So the day of the fight was all wild flashing. We had to tape you know and it was like a super glue and everything in my friend says, okay, lighter cane, there it is again, right? He says, you know, I said, just put it right. He says, no, we'll numb up the whole act. You know, don't worry about it. He says, and he said, he put it in my butt. So he says, the leg would be numb. And you'll see that fight. You'll see that fight. I'm like jumping. I'm never jumping when I fight. And all the time, I'm, you know, and I'm shaking my leg and I can't feel my leg. It's like they were here to spin you there. Oh, no. So then, if they said there was a knockout, it was knockout. When you look at the fight, you'll see, I don't think he even hits me. But I'm landing on my butt and I want to get up and I can't get up. My leg doesn't work. And I go, whoa, you know, I said, man, my leg doesn't work, you know, so and they have referee says stop the fight. Then all the people start saying, see, I always said that he cannot fight. So that really bugged me, of course. Anyway, I said, okay, I'll fight another fight. Shouldn't have done it either, because on the three days or four days before the fight, I held the body of my out, they'd really beat the crap out of him yet, this jaw all the way wired, you know, and this is marked as close. So we went to the guys who did it, and we got in a little scuffle there, of course, and they threw me in jail for a couple of days in the jail.

Right. But it's a long time ago. In the jail hat for some reason, I got an infection in one of my testicles. And it became like really big. And they was hurting a lot. And they let me out because there was only a few days. So they did the whole test that they found out that what the guys did, they say, you know what? We're not going to bring it to court. They kind of felt that we were right doing what we did. Anyway, I still fought and I shouldn't have taken it at fight. I knocked the guy down three times in the first round, and then, and then, and actually, I win, I make a spinning of a back fist. Oh, yeah, that was it. He's standing in front of me and I'm so tired, you know, my body is so tired, and I go, boom, I make it give him a back fist in his neck.

And apparently, like a month before there was a rule that if you did a bad fist, you only could do it with the turn. Some bullshit would have, yeah, it was bullshit. Anyway, I couldn't come out for the second round because I was too tired and they said, OK, now it really started at home. You see, I always said, it's not so good, blah, blah, blah. I said, OK, I never fight for Holland anymore. This is over. If these fans are like this, I don't want to fight in front of people like this. But it was always, yeah, it is because, you know, it's your life. But it was always that I wanted to do something with martial arts, so I bought your mind. We both together, we made this show. It's like a, a martial arts show on music and we start doing this in like nightclubs and we would like but really cool really cool stuff I would kick him in the belly like Bruce Lee and that's a dragon right you would grab my foot throw me back and I would make his flying kick in his face and land and you know we did all that cool stuff we I would come on with like a car wheel flick flag and that's the way we would talk to a walk to the place and we had both, and we did new juxtapes, and we did like brake test, the crazy stuff, and little cups on his mouth. I will kick back spinning back again and jump up and jumping, flying back at the cup of his head. So good quality martial arts, but we start putting comedy in there also, like funny things that For instance, I would I would stand there for a series with a suit and I go get the cups and the guy would come back and he had done these little cups and I kept looking straight ago note the other ones what the other ones and he got okay, so that he would walk and he would come back with cups like this and like Now, stuff like that. We started doing stuff like that. He would have, and there was also a funny one. I would do a break there, so the same thing. He would come with the break to think, oh, he got the ones. So then he came back, and he had like, these wooden things that were this thick.

Stuff like that, we would do it. And that caught on real fast. People really started and seemed to like that. So suddenly, we were doing this on bigger shows. First and night clubs, then we started doing it on shows like events, big events, what came in when it was fighting. I think that when he had to main event one time, we were in the break, you know, showing this to the people. So they got aired. And then we were on Dutch TV. And then your Eurosport saw it. And they had an event yearly in France. And we went to there and we started traveling now and doing these shows all over the place. And Tom and he was always the thing. Once we started doing the comedy, people will know me. There's a few of those things on YouTube, actually. So on one of these shows, because we came up with all these flicks and some salt and all that stuff, Chris Dalman was sitting there. And Chris Dalman is one of the forefathers in Holland. He was a judo champion, tough guy. And he called me to him and he says, man, you got some really good abilities. And did you ever think about free fighting? You know what it is? He says, no. He says, well, we do that in Japan. Are you interested? I say, sure, because they go, okay, that's not Holland. That's Japan, right? So it says comment, try it out. So I walk in there and at that moment I was, you know, you're being championed by boxing. So it was, because it was two fights weren't for a title. So I thought I was the cool dude. And that was literally like hoist grace in the beginning. You know, I walk in and they killed me. And they would put on these jokes, not blood jokes, but like on my windpipe, you know, Pulling pulling because those are no grappling back then.

No, nothing. Nothing. I had no clue. I saw them on the ground and then they said, okay, just go. Wow.

So we're training and I literally, when I drove back, I had to stop my car and actually the road and I had one of the first Phillips telephone cell phones. It was really cool at the time. I remember this, and I called my wife, I said, listen, my car next to the road here, I'm going to sleep. I said, I can drive. I broke me. I really, I had to drink liquid food for like three days because my whole throat was messed up because I thought I could hold that. You know, so I was just fighting it, and they were pulling, pulling, dilly, yeah, they had to, I would tap, but it was all crossed up, and my wife was already laughing. She says, oh, okay, so that's it, right? I said, no, no, I'm gonna go back, and within six months, three, six months, I'm gonna tap everybody there, you know, because I want to learn this, I want to learn this game. But things started happening, and I got an injury here, an injury there, and I had to work, and it was a boner, and you know, once a month I would go over there, and it kind of faded away. Then my wife looks at me in the beginning of her career and she says, you're going to be a famous fighter in Japan. And I go, well, when you say that, she says that just came up with me. I said, no, I'm not going to fight anymore. I told you, she said, yeah, you said Holland, but you're going to go to Japan. Six months after she made that comment, I got a phone call, and I never pick up the phone, and the answering machine was broke. Or turned off because my crazy ass wife was calling all the time, so I didn't turn on. So I pick up the phone for some reason, and it's Chris Coleman. He says, boss, you got to come tonight. You got to come to Amsterdam. There's a try out. There's two guys here. So Zuki, for now, you're looking for fighters for a new organization, bankers. So I went through the tryout. I had a scuffle with one of the rings champion because they were fighting for rings. But it was a lot of work I heard already that they were having works which by works mean fixed fights.

No, and there wasn't rings. Empancras I would come back with. No, no, I believe so did the wash, but enough that the people said, like they never asked me. Well, I'll come back to that awesome. Anyway, because he told me right there, he says, you know, it's probably going to ask you a little later if you want to lose fight. Anyway, I started sparring with this guy. This guy was a rings champion. He tried to hurt me because they were filming. Result was me knocking him out with a high kick, boom, and his whole eyebrow was open. He had to go to the hospital for stages. Suzuki and Funauki, I saw them pointing at me. So, they wanted me. I think two months, two and a half months later, I was in Japan. And before I went, I got that speech from Christophony. He said, they're probably going to ask you to lose or to win a fight. I said, Chris, I don't want to do that. He said, if I want to, if I fight, it needs to be real. Otherwise, I don't. I hated those guys who were there. And they would come back and they would say, yeah, champion. And I said, they were all cool, but then when they came back and they had to lose, they would come back and they say, yeah, I lost, but you know, they I had to lose. Yeah, last time they made you win, you know, but you don't say that, but you only say it when you lose. So I hated those guys with that. You know, you're not a real guy. So I knocked the first guy out, and in the second fight, I knocked the other guy out, uh, uh, full K. And then by the way, we had dinner with Franakia Suzuki and I thought, oh, god, here we go. You know, so dinner, they gave me a book from Fujiwara, a really good wrestler. And, uh, we had great dinner and they put me on a cap. and just before they walked in. I said, I thought you guys were going to ask me something, so what do you mean? It's a small crystal, I told me that, you know, that you're probably going to ask to throw the fight. And Suzuki told me straight in my face, I will never ask you such a thing. He said, we will never do that. Now, over the years, I've been hearing, of course. And some fights, when you look at fights, it looks really smooth and going over. And like in Shermrock said, he lost. also he lost the lost fights for all works you know it's also you go like okay he lost twice by exactly the same combination he looked into a knee bar against the same opponent and you go like if it was not real wouldn't you come up with something else which would you really do two times the same you see so that's been also in my head I got you ever see Bart Vail versus Ken Chamberlain

Oh, God.

I hate it, my God. It's because there's the funniest thing ever. We knew that Coleman was going to lose a six minutes for the heel hook, right? No. That's what's the word. I heard that. So when the reporters came in, they asked me, would you think he's going to win? And I say, I say, that God is going to win in about six minutes with the hill. at the ground and they changed it but like faster or something they didn't really like that that I was doing that but I go like that's that's something again I can that's why I get sometimes I get emotional from it when people say order was fake and then the worst one what they say is yeah but sometimes it was fake and boss didn't know of it so they told the opponent to lose against boss You know, like against, um, I fought against Foonaki. And then, uh, one guy said one time, he said, uh, yeah, that was the work because she, uh, didn't, uh, hurt you. I said, when did he decide that he was going to lose? Was it before or after he tried to break my freaking leg? I mean, I don't. If you don't, if you see the fight, he pushed me a heel hook and inverted a heel hook with a toes in his neck. And my heel is 180 degrees there. I'm literally looking at my own leg. And I go, oh my god, I don't feel that, you know, that I thought nobody else. That was a big risk what he was going to take. If this was a fake fight, right? I needed to like two or three times. So you'll see my leg completely be turned the other way.

It's the worst one. I broke this. I'm walking on the street, right? And we certainly be here with all the fights for you. I've heard wrestling playing for us. And we look at this giant screen. And the first thing you see is me buff, giving a bomb strike in the guy goes down and we go, yeah, you know, that's the promo for the next day. So I see this guy, like a high she's sitting in a, in a, in a half-gart and he grabs a heel and he falls back. And I go, this is at the time I had nobody to roll with, right? I trained on the back two times a day. My first year to have him, bankers, wasn't me training on the back pretty much. No, no, no, it's pretty much nothing. Like, if you're rolling a rock, if there was somebody who knew judo, he would come. I mean, I'm talking about once every three weeks. I'm not kidding. So next day, I'm in the position. And I go, oh my, it's well, try it. So I grabbed that heel, but since I never did it, I didn't realize how much pressure I put on. So I grab it and I fall back, use my body weight. I snap the shin and I have. So first we here, we put, you know, so I go, whoa, you see me letting go. and then he feels his knee and he's like, do I feel you want to fight it? So yeah. But I go like, well dude, I hurt your knee snap because we thought it was a knee. But apparently it was still like a little stuck on that leg. So then he kicks with that leg. And I flex my muscles. And then when he puts the foot down, he bends all the way out.

Especially the shin when it splitter. You know, and it's a wrong, uh, you can put it out. You can bleed out. the guy that you you you showed me I think on Twitter you said a tweet that the guy was fighting with the broken arm yeah remember I mean how tough is that dude and he didn't feel it then the referee saw it in the wrong three and then they stopped the fire but this guy was just going and not letting the other guy with it it was unbelievable the both of these guys were actually really good I go what organization was that well you know Richard Rich Franklin when he fought chocolate that I was I mean punch Chuck with it after it was broken yeah

What happened was that I would have Marker and Marco who was a bit or he's all these guys that were training with us at the Beverly Hills Jutsu Club. And I would train those guys and I would go with them as a tournament. And in Japan, when you fight, you see the fights are on in the dressing room. So I'm sitting I'm watching there and you keynote and and he take those two guys that the people from Pride who live in America, you know, where the in between persons are the same. are there also, and I go like, oh look at that, he's going to go for straight armor. It sounds right arm. Watch out, watch out, there he comes, there he comes, there he comes, boom, and the guy's got straight armor. So they look at me. And then the next fight, it's right away also again. I said, oh my god, he's looking for a knee bar. Oh, he's going to roll in a light button. He's going to roll and he's going to go for knee bar. I just don't know if he rolls any goes for knee bar. And he goes like, how do you notice? I said, you can see the setup. And they look at each other and said, did you ever think about being a commentator? And that's how I got the job. Who was doing it before you? Nobody, because they were looking at that moment, they were looking at new people because they had the first nine or something. Quartos and I, we did that in a studio later. But I think the first one was

Oh, it's basically the first one I was there. That was the first one. I think the broadcaster to this thing.

Because I know there was a block. Yeah, yeah. No, I did. I did. I was two times, two times. One time it was against a ventilator silver because they needed an opponent for him that was at the event that dynamite of a 91.5,000 people in life outside crazy. And it couldn't fight in the opponent. And I said, listen, I didn't rule for a long time because that problem was I said, but everybody wants to see us strike anyway. And it was also the same card was K-1. You remember, Jumbo Miller was fighting Don't fight K-1 rules. So I said, so why don't we do K-1 rules with MMA gloves? I mean, that's what the people want to see anyway, you know, for much too. But then that's why I didn't go through. They took somebody else. And yeah, that would have been awesome. And because at that time, You man, I was I was hurting like my it guy holds the the tie pads. I mean he would have purple arms. He was got my god. This is no fun anymore. You know because I was in shape, you know, I was real good standing. Fuck, that would have been a great.

And then and then when when Ken came to Pride, I was the first one to say, I say, I come out of retirement if I can find him, but can't say no, we did it already, so I swear we don't need to do it the third time.

Yeah, that's what he came personally to tell me. He says boss, I told him that I didn't want to do it because we were ready for two times.

I would have loved. But also at that time, I was a totally different fighter. Like he can't fight against me. Made me who I am. That fight was like literally God was watching and he says, OK, I give you this. One guy to train with in the hall of 19 year old Leon Vendike, Freakin monster. He did on a machine with 275 pounds. He would do curls. It was bizarre. I would have him in an arm bar and I'd better do two halves because he literally would start doing this. It was insanely strong. And I started training, but both we didn't know anything. And we would watch tapes. I would watch tapes. I would see a hill hoop for instance. I would write down how it works. Next day we start rolling. I would go hill hoop. Go hill hoop. I say, OK, now let's break this time. Let's see how we can make it better. Say, OK, how can you escape? Well, if I push this way, OK, so I can stop you from doing this. And we start breaking down every little thing I say.

Nothing on it. Everything myself. And you know, and that's the cool part because what I might have got a phone call when my big DVDs have come back and I was at the time and BJ Ford met use all the way back. and B.J. called me and I say, hey, boss, it's B.J. so B.J. Ben? Yeah, I say, wow, I say, what do I owe this pleasure for? It says, just want to tell you, you made the best instructions of everything. I said, man, that is so good. It says, got to go. I got to do my run. So wow, let me, can I use your quote? It's simple, but that's cool stuff. And I saw, and I realized also that a lot of people A lot of fighters took everything straight up, Jitsu, and they put it into mixed martial arts, and a lot of stuff straight up, Jitsu doesn't work, it makes martial arts, because it needs to be more compact. The sleeve will take care that it's hard of you to roll out of an arm bar, so that's why by arm bars with me, I always control the inside of the hand, so you get rotate your hand. Whatever arm bar pretty much I do, it's always control, control, because they don't want to rotate. You know, and I would heal, and I would start breaking everything down, and I said, okay, if I would tap in front of this with an arm bar from the mountain, I'm just making something up. He would, after three times, he wouldn't know my setup. So I would create a different way to go to the down bar. He would find that word out, and then I would create a different way. So then suddenly I start for every move. I start having three or four different ways to go to that submission, and then I start tossing those rounds.

You had to figure it out like look at how people are doing it and deconstruct it and then my next eight fights I transferred three months I think two times a day sometimes I would wake up at night with Colin and we'll go row. I think I was always game. Always and we would train and my next eight fights I won by submission

Yeah, everything. That's cool. Wow. And the cool part. And I always say this because I'm very proud of it. And that's why I'm saying it. It's you if you look at the record in punk was that rope escapes, right? That means that if you could get in the choke, but you could touch the rope, you have to let you go. but on the other side it's really good for you as a fighter to develop because now you have to make more strategic now you have to make sure that you have to end the center of the ring before you go so that again if you're going to miss it you're in the center of the ring so there's more thinking with sometimes I want to fight with like four submissions so instead of going out there I had now four submission victory is pretty much in one fight and I think that that's why The pancreas guys were so good in UFC I think 6 or 7 guys from pancreas became all UFC champion because they of that rule I truly believe I know it's crazy I always said as long as I don't get have to escape because if I escape for me that would feel like a loss, but I didn't

And let's do it again. And then if you look at the ways I submitted people, you can call a submission. Okay, a go-go plot I didn't do, but you can come up with some crazy stuff. I put it every. He looks normally, he looks, if you're the knee bar triangle, show triangle arm or a figure force, how many fights did you have over in, uh, pancreas? 31 31 yeah holy shit over the course of how many years that was only over because of five years I fought the first year of foot nine fights in the second nine again one night eight again I mean that was an eye go I thought that in a pretty short time so by the time you got to the UFC you had a shit lot of fights like

Finally because I I want to go to the UFC for them for the entrance song. I kid you not. I thought that was the coolest thing all the rich know. You know I want to come up with that song that is so cool and that really that's they came ask me I said but that was the The deciding fact that I said, okay, I want to do it. Because they just loved that stuff.

I created his martial artist. But it was cool. And I had a great idea. I had that, the three-tenors, no poverty. These guys, they had this, they did it a tour. And on one of those tracks, I like to be in America. And it's a 43-second clip. And I told him I said, oh I look to be in America, you know, and I thought, okay, please let me put on that clip for 43 seconds and then do you have C2 in comes up?

Oh man, that was it for every fighter. I always got that. That's right. Did you read the script already for Kevin's movie? No, I haven't read it. Oh, okay, because you're in it, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And you know what? If you, if I say, okay, you need to open it a little bit more, he'll do it the next time.

Yeah, he is. He really, he hates it when we say this, because she said, oh, dude, what people, you know, I'm just, he's a very, very humble guy. He is.

Oh, yeah. I met him. When he lived on that apartment on Ovaland, and a one bedroom apartment, which he shared with another guy. And now he lives in a house, yeah, you know where he lives. And then you go like, he's the same dude. Same guy. Same guy. Same guy.

Yeah, you said that you and he would watch the pancreas fights.

That's what I hoped did you ever get than that, because you went From fear factor before that.

But what did you feel fear factor? That was at that time also?

Yeah, no, but still, you know, that's the same as fighting you. You don't care about money, but until, you know, something you go like, okay, well, I actually should get paid for it.

I always love it, though, so in Japan, I will say tomorrow, I would say tomorrow. We're the only two in six billion, right now, who see Frick and Fador versus Crow Cup, or Fador and Nogera. You know, those epic fights and, and Vanilly Silva, annihilating, you know, uh, such a horrible, like, wow, crazy stuff.

You had less cuts. That's that's what I always say. I want to have the Melonese underground. You know, I get away from the guts. Yeah, we know how many knockouts you see when I'll bow right. Five. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. But that's then, but of the five. Yeah, named me out of four.

And I hate that because on the street, you wouldn't stop if you get cut. You can put fighting. You know, it's not a real win. I'm going to discard you guys who make careers out of it. You know?

But okay, maybe what they should do is if you have it again, but they don't pat it. Yeah, so something around it at least it doesn't cut. I'm totally for it if you knock him up and I'm the biggest guy, but not like laying on somebody and literally do they don't even load them up? Right, right. He just rub a rub a rub a rub a minute. It gets cut and then wind the fire. Yeah, I want to find no you didn't wind the fire for me.

Well, I mean, you know, it's like disgracey type. We tight things that have a run. You know, that always starts moving and a run is going to be annoying people got it. You know, maybe surgically they have to in plan to one.

a pain pain chain that that neck injury I brought it all the way to the rental month fights it was still not gone I was hurting I couldn't sleep I wasn't sleeping pills for such a long time because of the pain there was always pain pain in my neck and then I said you know what I'm gonna so I tore it by steps like throwing a left hook in the air pocket I go on my god what's going on now you know it's not breaking down breaking down and then I started I didn't do anything then I started training like three years after that I started training and it and it went to start going good and the graphs started going good and you know okay everything feels good and then I stopped And then like two years later, two and a half years later, they, that's when they call me for the WFA. If I was interested, they offered me a lot of money. And apparently what happened, this was funny also because they chemolyopoldo to him, they said, he says, who do you want to fight? And I said, Hickson, I went to first, I said, Hickson. They said, we don't have the money for that. It's never going to happen. Okay, then uh, it's crazy right?

Yeah, that was at the time, you know, and I was just want to see what you can do against it, right? And um, so they uh, by the way, that would have been another awesome fight. That would have been awesome fight.

Yeah. That's the same. Anyway, then I said, uh, I don't know, you know, I don't, so you don't feel the real.

Yeah, but when they said keep only polo, say I sure, I said man, I'd just hang out with the mid-Japan when he fought in Japan, it's kind of weird. If I don't know, he actually wants to fight you. I said, I'll cool. So then when we had the photo shoot, I go to the photo shoot and he's there and he's acting all weird, like giving me hand, but like shine away and I go like, wow, he's taking his, uh, this five very serious, right? I mean, what's going on? Oh, yeah, we told him that you specifically asked for him. And then I thought, you know what? Am I going to tell him? But then I thought, no, I'm not going to tell him. Because if I tell him, you know, then maybe he's not going to train a shot. I wanted to have a tough fight. You know, so I thought he's angry. He's going to train harder. He's going to be awesome fight. And then I thought, That was my crazy mind. I say on the day of the fight, I would deliver a letter to him in the dressing room saying exactly what I just said. So he would read. Like I knew this already, but I didn't want to tell you because I want you to be 100% before you fight me and a full of stamina because you're going to need it. And that was I think that would be totally backfiring, right?

So that was the set up to play and then yeah, you got that's positive. So the Ruben had to take his place.

No, no, no one wanted guys. Thank God, but they didn't want to do it. And then there's a lot of bunch of guys there went over because I said anybody they came up with that because I didn't.

You were with their view. Some of the greatest fights ever. Ever. Ever. Nobody get to take that away from you. You know what they said about my fights also. I want to fight the first two fighters and one guy in Holland says he says bus. Everybody was saying, oh, he's going to lose. He's going to lose. You know, like a very negative public country. And one guy says bus, whatever happens, they never take this away from you anymore. So lock this up, they got you got this, you know, and that's what with those fights also. That's something that you carry on with the rest of your life. They were great moments and to interview those guys, you know, to reenact to them and to crazy stuff. And then when I quite a start doing this crazy opening, you know, this was a fun man.

They pulled those that Jerry Millen came. Yeah, you know, he was suddenly everything needs to be the same as boxing and I go why is it gonna be the same as everybody else? You know, let it let it let it be like how many fights did you do over there in pride?

Oh God, I don't know. I mean, but when they started Bushido also I was there 12 times a month a year I was like five six that I've Yeah, I have no clue what I'm doing today.

I mean, I think if they would walk in there with guns, but yeah, that again, you don't want to do that again.

No, no, no, no. It's not accepted because when it came out, Then it was over, right? Then because then the TV said, we would don't want to be associated with it. And they pulled the money out or was it?

I think it was made public. I got to forget this. It was the past from Joe Rogan for a buddy of mine.

Oh, my battery's still low for use. Okay, good.

Rampage, the things that we did with Rampage, how I remember my first when he fought Sakuraba and he lost that fight, I took him to the side, I said, listen, you got it man, you got this thing, they love you, I said make sure this doesn't happen anymore because they actually had to get him out of jail. to get that fight. There was a whole stress thing going on because he had a he had a warrant out of him or something and he was at the airport and they got him and they put him in jail. Real. Yeah, but that the pride people started talking. They got him out. They made pictures of it. He's studying in front of the jail. There was on the cover of the older newspapers, he studied there with his big chain, you know, and that was, that was quick and he came in.

A small show was 43,000 people. Damn. Yeah, and they would sell out all the time. The biggest show, 91 and a half, Tokyo don't 55, 60,000. I mean, it was crazy.

It stopped being like because of that. Because of the accuser. Yeah. When the TV pulled everything out, it was over. That's when everything went down to dread.

No, no, no, no, no. I think the main reason of this is, Sekaraba started to lose. Like an organization in Japan in order to be successful in the age of any star. And where are you going to fight good luck to find another Sekaraba who beats four graces? Now, unbelievable fighter. You know, but it is K-1 never got big in America. Why they don't have an American champion. They have an American champion in America. K-1, but that guy doesn't do good at the final tournaments. But once an American guy is going to read in Japan, you watch then K-1 becomes very interesting for the people. It is logic. You know, you want to root for your own guy.

Yeah, but the thing is, um, into beginning, it will work. But eventually people want to see an American champion.

There's not, no, just really not. And you know, the

It's very marvellous mid would say, you know, he was at the top of the pyramid at that time and he didn't make it over there. So then, you know, they're like, okay, but just who was going to beat Marvellous mid in America?

He's admitted him, didn't you? Yeah, twice. Yeah. It was fun. You know, the best one was the first time. I'm standing here and he makes a kick, I go back and punch him and it goes well fast and right away I give him my kick, and it's like it's on his defense. It's quite very close so I think, oh cool, I'm making another one, right away I make a switch kick and I kick and I slip and I fall in the ground and he wants to jump on top of me and I go wait. He stops and I get up when I go, thanks.

That's hilarious. Yeah, that was hilarious. That was funny. And then he tried to take my back. This was the coolest. I did a mini bar upside down, a knee bar. On my head, feet up, knee baring him. I'm standing against the ropes and he's trying to get my back. So he just dove down on Neibar. That's it. I go and like, okay, get my back. So right away, but he did, I dove in, but he grabs the ropes. So I'm standing upside down at the top of my head and have the Neibar. He's, he's tapping in the ropes and rope escaping.

Oh, unbelievable. You have to understand that what I came from tie boxing, right? You got weight classes. It's like boxing. So I came to Japan and the first thing I see is my opponent is 245 pounds. And I'm 195. So I go like, okay, but I didn't want to show anything, of course, because okay, this one of this, right? You got to fight. So I go, okay, cool, cool, cool. So how many rounds to say one round? So awesome. How many minutes? 30. Say, awesome.

30 minutes. I'm gonna fight 30 minutes. You know, that's why I put those arms on my hand. I have to stay relaxed because I'm such a honoured. Well, that's what the R stood for. Yeah, relax. Yeah, in Holland it's rustic starts with an R also. So what's going to that, please? I thought it was a rotten. No, no, no, no, for rustic, stay comfortable. Every time when I get hit, you hear my corner, you listen to the fights. You go, stay calm, stay calm, stay calm because they know I want to. That's right, in Holland, my whole first round of knockouts, I would come out very technical. So I figured I said, man, if I'm going to fight a guy like a working machine, you know, we can take a lot of punishment, but then come back and I got 28 more minutes to go. We're going to shoot low. I don't want to have that. So I put the two arms on my hand and they would shout, they never shout in an instruction. The only instruction they shout is like, when I'm in a guard, I would tell them, right? This is my easiest guard escape on a planet. Imagine the guard is here and it's left foot is on top, right? I would look at my corner and it would show and it would go right and I would swing back and underrockets and grab it.

So you just look at him and they go right and then you relax and I'll pick it up.

No, you gotta, you know, you know that, right? Right. Yeah.

It's, I, I, I predicted it right away after my first fight. They did an interview with me and I said, this is like a rollerball that movie. These people going to need like an outlet, you know, and this is it. This is going to be very big. I say, you're watching four years from now. Yeah, I said it four years from now this will be the biggest thing and it was like seven years later or something I was like way off in time but eventually it got there I go like what is what is better than this? I knew at that time already that everybody likes to be to know who's the toughest guy on the planet and this is literally being the toughest guy I was an insider in May last week, and I was ashamed about a comment that I made against Frank, because we had a comment that one guy says, oh, we're MMA is just like two guys rubbing against each other on the floor. And then I told him the story that I was fighting Frank, and then I stood up and I said to Frank, come up, he says, no, no, you come down. I said, no, come up, fight like a man. And I go, I'm eating those words right now, because when I broke that guy's shin bone, because I had no clue how much power that wasn't a joint. You know, that really started making me think, and I go, you have to understand it. The ground guy can break whatever he wants in your body. You got so much dominant power. If I roll with guys, my students, they brought a stand with me down the ground. Because on the ground, they say, you always, you're there. Standing, they can move around, you know? And they get a lot of days, but it's way harder on the ground. So I go like, wow, listen, I can dislocate, break, snap, I can do whatever I want. If I say, okay, your right arm is going to go, your right arm is going to go to any guy on the street. You know, I mean, talking about power compared to knocking somebody out. You know, I can put you to sleep, but I can just some crazy things with you.

The thing is what I always say, I said, all the moves are pretty much invented, right? But it's the setups. They found such a creative way to go to a particular move. That is the cool part about makes martial arts style. If you have that setup that nobody noticed yet, you show me how many times you see. Remember the first time in the end of Honda got introduced in the Pride, you know, the guy from the Garus camp. They said, we called this on a Honda. That was no guarantee. Because nobody saw the freaking thing before. Well, everybody's not landing on a Honda. You know, Darstoke, same thing, but suddenly there's the Darst, you know, oh, you can do it on the other, it's not the armpit, you go to the, you see, so people start playing with it. And they create these different ways, like, deal history against the, uh, suck, what is the, a little, the Italian guy, suck, uh, unless you suck. It's a guy. The way he said that's right, but choke up. I mean, wow, that was so cool. It was so sneaky, slowly, but surely in that poop. You know, you go like, listen.

You know what a cool thing is with Libario. He saw me rolling with Joaquin Manson in China. He was watching there and then he's first show we started showing me things and I said what he could do with those particular leg locks and how he could do this and they would make it that stronger and he was sitting looking at me and he was like, Oh, I said, oh, you thought I was a striker, right? And he goes, oh, I didn't know. And then it's finished that he wanted me to come to America top team to teach a ground fighting seminar.

Yeah, but I believe in it's good to know them all, but for every fight you have to say, okay, I'm going to use this particular move for that guy. I don't go crazy on this, because you know, and then have those different setups. That is the key, man. I would and set up one to four. I'd go for one to four to two to back to one to boom card.

On one side, yeah, but you know, I always go with the classes have full with me. You know, I, I, I'm in a great position right now, man. I mean, I got a movie coming up with a big part for this, you know, the Kevin James comedy, you know, I got the TV show. My wife predicted that one also, by the way.

I mean, this is like, oh, we go in, it is a fourth year. It's crazy. No. And my wife, when she predicted that I was going to be a fighter in Japan, and I said, no, because I'm not going to fight, she says, yeah, it's Holland. You're going to go to Japan much six months later on in Japan. And two years into that, she looks at me weird again. I said, now what? She's going to go to America. You're going to be in TV business.

Oh, go on YouTube.

Yeah, boss was GTA 4. That was just a disguise from bar fighting this short. And what they did, they gave me a script. And I said, can I treat this thing? And they say, sure. So I would start building sentences in the middle of the sentence. I would stop and then restart it. So it looks like I'm a total freak of cycle when I'm talking. It's like really weird because it does a work. And the result when you see the result is one of my final workmen. I had to set people out there. I say, you can't because they were cracking up so hard.

Yeah, you know, I love to do again, but this right now, you know, this is one of those things that I thought I would never say, but I'm so busy. I don't have the time for it anymore but anytime I have a chance like for instance now I go to Brussels you know and then I do this just like three days before I have to go to Boston to shoot say why do you do it you don't need to do it I say yeah but I enjoy it I enjoy it so much to go there and there I'm also the ring announcer and they let me free I can't slap the girl I do you know I have to find stuff you know what is Brussels that makes martial arts makes martial arts and the K1 tournament You know, both at the same time, the talking is fighting?

Yeah, also on inside MMA.

I love it. And the thing I love about it, I see my old buddies again, whether they're still fighting order and I'll put coaches from guys. And then I see the new talent coming up. And we all have them on the show. You know, we would have thought you're going to get a Basie award. You know, like, you can win a Basie if you have the greatest knockout of the year or something. How cool is that? You know, it's really going to start doing that thing. I think in the front of the live audience, that will be cool to do also. But it's really getting that. We never thought it was going to go like that. You know, when it just exploded from the half-hour show, we went right away through an hour, and now commercials are there. So that means we're doing a good thing with the hottest show on the HGNet.

Really, it's it's really sad that we I know a few guys that you know start lisping and and it's scary stuff, you know the like Aloski fight though, you know Andre, you know, I love this guy. It's a really nice guy. Somebody I know he wants to fight and he already wants to prepare for the next fight. I think somebody should say you know what? Let's not do it

You can kill everything for the rest. Yeah, you know, I mean, maybe he's, he's not going to be a teacher anymore, nothing but mixed martial arts. That's the, the, the bad thing also is like your legacy is going down. When you're going to be a coach, you're going to go to a gym to train with a guy who lost his last seven fights and imagine your guy like that.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, you know, what I said, what they should do, should tell them, okay, you know what you're gonna, you're not gonna fight for a year. And in between, we're gonna do some grappling tournaments to keep the competition on there, and in your business, and it doesn't matter if you're gonna lose. Who cares about it? Just be busy with competition, so you perform under pressure, and then if everything feels good, you know, then maybe try it one more time. But then really say, okay, if this is gonna go the wrong way, you really gotta stop like that.

Yeah, but my book, if I was my student, it was no. Yeah. I would say no, this has been shut off too many times. Yeah, because I don't want to be that nail on the coffin that's going to say, God knows what happened.

I know, but you see this fighting style, how he fights. He doesn't throw, I was looking at, so let it go. Make three, four shots. Papa, Papa, I do doesn't do that. Everything is single shots. His defense is perfect. Boom. Boom. Boom every watch, you know, there's no three a ride-up like that left took. He's very good. No, you know, yeah, of course tries not to get hit. That's not to get hit and it's gonna be hard for people to hit him. It's so much power. You know, I mean, look at the striking as bizarre. The guy is so strong. He's taken out his fence. He's getting really good. He's a great submission. His ground control is really good. No one has ever been.

Pretty fuck crazy. Yeah. Yeah, that's really cool. So that's a guy, you know, this is cool. He trained in the early days. He trained with Chris Dolman when I was training there. He had this brother, Valentine. and I would submit them and then they would they they're very competitive and then if I wouldn't come over there they suddenly would call and they say oh we're at your gym we want to train now because now we're going to get you I said okay and then they went again and they say how is that possible I said because I'm training to others there You know, but I always said that's the guy. Those are the guys because they keep on coming and keep on coming and want more and travel for it. He wants it. The guy who really wants it, it really is like that. It's like the book I always say, the alchemist, you know, if you set your goal, you say, that's where I want to go. Whatever you do, you don't get off the path, you know, you are going to get it. I truly believe there's something up there that helps you for that. You know, Go. Don't. Relad this. Don't walk over people, though, in order to get there.

Yeah, that's true. I don't know how you say this. I think that how do you tell when to tell them? I think that people inside deep down inside the fighters know if they can become a champion or not. I think they already know that. When I was fighting and I started winning in Japan when I got that grand game I look at my wife and say, I think I'm being real champion this thing. I truly believe I can be all these guys now. And then it started. I think you feel that. I think that a fighter will actually know himself they will keep on trying and keep on trying. But I think once you No, that it's not really there. That's not a good feeling. They won't say it, but it is. Just like the guy who you mount, you hit, they turn on the back and they get choked. A lot of these guys, they give the choked.

It was too big actually we said too big with too big and combination yeah, and then and then being what 60 pounds heavier, you know, that's a big difference man. I always said I wanted weight class 205 to 35. Yeah, I agree.

It's the too big of a leap.

They said that he was too 90 today. How could you gain 25?

It's stopped by a big foot. Did you see the foot bridge down his back?

He should fight no people booing when they don't let the fight continue I say is I is just closed he can't see anything coming from the left you know at all yeah, it was gonna be the same thing anyway.

Yeah, that that that's something to you know that you get emotional. I don't get emotional from that.

You know, with Chuck, it's a mental thing. But I always say with Chuck, if he has the right person who can't talk to him, that he's too hungry. Like, if he lands, if he smells the victory, he starts also committing to it. And all the knockouts he had is because of that. If he would step back, relax. I mean, he was doing really good against French, frankly. This guy still can be the top guy. That's his only defect. With him, it's not that he lost his timing and lost that. It's only that. He's too hungry. You know, he's been knocking out people too easy, you know? That's the same. You can also see what the training, when he fought Couture. You know that when he trains, he puts everybody backwards. And then Sunday when Couture came and started pushing him backwards. That was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What now what? He never was there. That fight made them again. Way better after that make him a better counter strike man.

It was a WVC, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, well, it's almost, I read the books from a big John, because I wrote the forward for the book. And man, that's a cool book. What is your John's book?

you see it all boss you've been there from the beginning you know you're you're a real legend in this this crazy sport I'm a very happy person I'm a lot of pain when I walk you know everything hurts but it's good worth it and I know that with the stem cells and everything it will something will pop up you know and I'll put it back I'm not going to find any way you know I'm also you know there's also a thing that I had when in 2006 when I made the comeback I knew that like I would roll and everything would go really well don't get me wrong but the worst things that I say I would have had that normally and normally I would have had that I noticed that I was getting slower you know and that my reactions were not there as they were before so you know you got to be You don't be very realistic to yourself.

Yeah, it's crazy, but he's got the O2 trainer. The boss was an invention, the long training device.

You know what? This is a fun thing when I came up with this. Yeah. When I was 15 years old, around that time, I was very bad as well, but I also did track and field. So when I had an asthma, I think that would be like a two week episode, which from the two weeks, I would be like five or six days in bed, because I couldn't eat and can breathe, because you can't eat. No, you can't breathe. Drink it. They'd like this. 24 hours a day. Oh, yeah, no really bad. So I couldn't walk stairs, nothing, everything and bad.

No, no, no, sometimes I do. Sometimes a little bit. Yeah, but you're digging it in hell and it's gone. But then after I had an attack and I would do the trick and feel, I would realize that my lungs would work better. And I go, why is that? And I start, oh wait a minute, it's an infection in your lung pipe. You know, it closes the lung pipe. Your lungs have to work really hard to pull that air in. Then when the infection is gone, you know, because they worked all the time, they're used to pulling hard, air comes in easy. I go, so why don't I come up with something that controls the air intake? So I started thinking about, like, it's a stupidest thing, man. You're going to laugh. Like, I will hold my mouth in a certain position and try to memorize that position and it's stupid stuff. So you get much air in? Yeah. Like, and then make it every time a little smaller and I go, man, I get to come up with something. So I tell all these, oh, my buddy's here and America, everybody knew and the whole thing that I wanted to make that thing. And then when Vendolet came on TV with a snorkel, I think I had six or seven phone calls. They said, you got to do that thing that you're talking about because somebody's going to find it out. Somebody's going to come up with an idea. You know, so I started looking at a pattern to a lawyer and buddy, you know, man, nobody made it. I got the pattern to have everything to work with.

That's why I was laughing because because what I saw this is, it controls the air intake. It's a very simple thing. So imagine this week you do all your hard work outs, like only four times also because you don't need to do that every way because you're actually turning your muscles. The testing in the Texas right now, the University, that guy in 12 days, he had a great long volume. He said, man, you made something really cool. Can I put my track team on it? He's got his female track team on it. They're going to run tests on them now because he thinks also that because it's a little small diet biodegradable little compartment that's flexible all so so you can get hurt. because you read the little tiny bit of carbon dioxide which I want to stay away from because I don't want people to get this. He says, no, no, you don't get this. You're carbon dioxide. I want it to. Anyway, he says, he thinks it's just enough to spark a more red blood cell production. I said, you give me, he said, I don't know for sure yet. He says, but I will be icing on the cake. Wow. What does this thing look like? It's an, you know, I hope I still get better.

Let me see you go to ototrader.com and people are watching me now. You can't buy it yet. It's on there, but you can't buy it yet.

Okay, guys, everybody watching, don't buy it. You cannot buy it. It's okay. It's not in. So don't hit buy. Come back at the end of the week.

I think it's going to be the major impact.

Okay, it is a it is a it is a portable but a vife. It's a mouthpiece like a like when you die, you know, let it start and it comes to the front with two little things. It's like a square and it comes to the front. Here is the air a hole in as a cap. The cap you can take off and you can put screens in there. Little rubber screens with all smaller holes. They go from 14 millimeter all the way to one millimeter. So this week you train all your hardware. That's 14 millimeter next week. You do 13. Then you do 12. You go slowly gradually. You're going down. And I want you down, you know, you really, you love to have to pull the air in. And it's the voice, my wife was saying, like, after three weeks of training in restaurants, she said, I mean, keep your voice down. You know, because your voice gets really loud, so I go, man, it's for singers. It's for people who play low instruments, it's for school with divers. Anybody who needs a lung. You know, you should see the commercial one that I made for it. We shot that thing in 15 minutes or less. And you're gonna laugh you as if when you see that thing, you're gonna go, wow. Wow.

Godspeed party on and at a little tiny screen, you know, it's for exercises. You can literally sit here and just do it. I do it in my car right now. I go

We'll see you build it again. For sure. Okey dokey. A lot of stories. Holla, action boy. Man, I have to be for so long. Go to do now.

Hey, why not, Madway? Hey, good to see you. Good to see you. All right, hey, everybody, my name is Baz Ruten. And I'm welcome to the men's room.

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