Transcript for #2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

We've had these for years.

And I feel sustainable here.

But there's definitely a reason for metal cups. You really shouldn't be drinking out of plastic. Okay. Yeah, again. I mean, I do a drink plastic water bottle, someone gives you one, but I avoid them whenever I can.

Yeah, what is it like? It's a super filter. Some crazy filter.

You can't get the water outside the right. Good water, right, until it.

There's a mammoth teeth. I got an arrowhead, a religious arrowhead, probably 500,000 years old. You got soil.

Well, that was from a gentleman who runs white oaks pastures. His name is Will Harris. And he, he has this amazing farm. It's a regenerative farm. And he gave us two pieces of soil to get what's at Carl Parking. He was a fight. He didn't get enough biting me this morning. Carl's getting hard, dude. That was a really yipe that I, what, he bit me this morning. I was like, yo, Carl goes after me.

But anyway, that soil, one of them is a jar of regenerative soil, which means soil that is how a farmer's supposed to be run, where there's manure and chickens and all the animals just rumminate and they live off the land in a natural way. And it's a deep, rich, dark soil. And the other soil, which is pale, is that's industrial soil. That's soil that's been used with industrial fertilizers and the top soil's dead and it's just garbage, which is most of what we eat.

You see the dark dirt is the good dirt. That's the real dirt. That's how dirt's supposed to look out the wild. That's what we're supposed to be eating food from. Mineral rich soil so you get healthy vegetables, healthy animals.

He's just spending money. You definitely just spend money because if you don't spend money like what's the point in having it? I know I wish I could get there, but you won't really get that watch.

Obviously. She got like You had some bastard.

I know. Yeah, I let my wife pick out almost everything. When I have nice sneakers on to generally my wife bought him.

She does, but she leaves me alone for the most part. But she'll dress me occasionally, if I have to go out, but I'm basically a fucking teenager.

I wear T-shirts. Yeah, they're comfortable, they're jeans, they're comfortable, you know, I don't really give a fuck.

Yeah, yeah, I have some nice suits. I've David August, maybe a whole, I have like a whole row in my office. I'm in my house, my closet, filled with suits.

Because I can't wear regular suits, I don't fit them, you know. There's a lot of 200 pound, five, eight dudes. It's just very odd, shaped.

You can't really watch it. Yeah. But it's a nice fit at suit. It's a fucking wonderful thing to have, because it just fits you perfectly. It all coughs and everything. You feel different. You put it on. You know, we uh, all the boys uh, we did a show in Vegas. We did the MGM, the Grand Garden Arena, and we did uh, me and Brian Simpson, Tony Hinch Cliff and Hans Kim, and we, I got them all suits. I said, let's all get like, we're doing Vegas. Come on, let's do it rat pack styles. We got some these beautiful David August suits and Jamie got one, too. It was incredible. It was so much fun. Yeah. It's nice. You feel different when you show up with a suit on. You do feel different. However. Look at that. That's us.

Everybody's looking sharp. Look at Jamie with the shades. Come on.

Right, if you get stuck around here, it's bind to you.

It doesn't go away. The only way to go away is to not eat pasta. That's the only way. The only way for me not eat pasta and booze. If I cut way back in the booze and no pasta, my body just goes, what? and travels back to normal.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, because meat is very satisfying. Meat has what's called a high satiety rate, which means like when you eat it, you get satisfied when your body's had enough. But I would say this like if you gave me a steak. Just a steak, 16 ounce steak. I eat it. I'm good. I don't need anything else. But if there's a bowl of pasta next, that's steak. I'm eating the pasta, too. If there's some bread and butter, I'm going to eat the bread and butter. Someone rolls out dessert. Of course, I'll have dessert. Next thing you know, I've consumed, you know, 1500 extra calories that I didn't even really want or need. They just, it just get addicted to just stuff and your face. It's just stuff. Oh, if I don't leave like this like oh my my stomach literally will descend out where I look at myself in the mirror. I'm disgusted like what have you eaten look at all the mass you put in your body because if you looked at like We keep your stomach like right here. This is normal, my normal stomach. But if you add that much food, which is all consumed, that much food is easy. It just goes right here. Oh, you're just looking like you fat piece of shit. You lazy, slavently, greedy fuck. Look what you've eaten.

I have a thing called an eight-sleep mattress cover. I have one.

Do you want the body? No. Generally, if I'm sweating is because I'm having nightmares. You know, I'll have some nightmares and I'll wake up drenched. Not in that thing. No, that thing originally. I don't think I have woken up sweaty since I got it. Really? I always used to wake up sweaty.

I don't remember what I have the eight-sleep thing dialed into, but I got it right there at the sweet spot. I've tried it a little too cool, a little too warm, but now I got it right there.

I think it's on some sort of a cycle. I'm not exactly sure, I don't remember how I set it up, but you can do this a bunch of different options. that you can do, and you can even have a different option, like you or your wife, if she likes a warmer, cooler. It's nice. No, it's been a game changer for me. It does make a big difference. Yeah, but taking care of your sleep is, I've really prioritized that especially recently, because, you know, owning the club and being out late, and I was doing two shows a night, which was also a lot. It was too much. I was doing six hours of comedy a week. just doing three nights just doing Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, two shows a night, but it was just I was too tired. I was burnt out and I wasn't getting the proper sleep because I'd get home. Shows over, you know, like 12, 30 or something like that, I get home. hanging out with the guys at the club, I'll get home at like 130, and then I start writing. And so I write from 130 to like four, and then I have to get up at 10 to work out, and like this is too much.

Wow. Yeah. I almost always find that I'm most productive when everyone in my house is asleep. So I don't have to like dad, you know, I have to think about anything. Did you do this? Did you put that away? Did this? Where's the thing? You know, I don't have to deal with anything. The dogs asleep. Everybody's cool. I could just sit in front of that fucking computer and think. You know, and that's the only time that I have like free reign of my house where there's no one to wake. So I get my best. And also, I think you jazzed up when you get off stage. And if you could just hold onto that, like your brain is already kind of in comedy mode, your brain is already thinking.

It's all the above supplements, definitely. That's a big factor. I take a lot of vitamins. I take athletic greens. That's one thing I take, but I take a whole suite of different vitamins. I take a bunch of different things like vitamin D, vitamin K2, but I take things for eyesight, I take, just fish oil, I take creatine, I take a lot of stuff. Okay, yeah.

It's gonna be a slow process. You don't want to dive right into the amount of vitamins. The amount of vitamins I take is like half of this coffee cup.

All right. Yeah. Taking a cup boy. I have like a whole cabinet. It's filled with supplements and I pull them out.

I have a bag and in my bag, most of the time when I travel, there's a company called pure encapsulations and they make these packs, like athletic pure pack, they're great for travel. Very easy, you don't have to think about just rip open the pack, take those vitamins and you're good. So one of them on the road, generally, you get rid of Carl? Two, two, rowdy. He's rowdy, he wants a bite to you.

Yeah. Just the other whole idea is he don't want unnecessary puppies. Right. I agree. Don't let your dog breed. But be with your fucking dog. Like, but if you take your dog's balls off, now your dog doesn't have any testosterone anymore. They develop hip problems and joint problems. They're tired all the time, just like a man. If you take his balls away, they become a unit. That's what you're doing to your dog. Okay. I've seen people do it and they're like, oh my, I wish I didn't do it. I can't your human being said that. He started giving his dog testosterone because he gave his dog, he got his dog fixed. And then his dog was like, listless all the time. And so he's like, he felt terrible. And they started doing the research on it and looking into it and like, oh, then you need hormones. Dogs do it just like people do. It's terrible for them.

I had a vet to tell me that. Yeah. One vet, a great guy. And he was like, don't do it. Don't do it. Everybody says to do it. Like you're not going to, you're not taking your dog somewhere and letting your dog breed. with a bunch of different dogs and have puppies that are irresponsibly. So your dog is a nice yard. You're your good dog owner. You're with them all the time. Like don't worry about it.

Yeah, just the whole idea is just to not, I mean, people are irresponsible. Yeah, that's what I can't go to the dog pound. If I go to the dog pound, I will have 20 dogs. Yeah. My dog, you know, my dog's perfect. He's awesome. But I just, I love dogs. I would have. I would have many dogs. I would have as many dogs I can. I love them. They're just pure love. And if you have a good relationship with your dogs, if your dogs love you and you love them, it's like, every day I wake up and I say to my dog, good morning, sir. And he goes, whoa, he starts whimpering and whining and wagging his tail 50 miles an hour and he goes around circles and we hugged it out and I kiss him and I rub his belly. It's like we have a morning ritual. I love dogs, man.

It changed your life. They make your life feel with love. You know, cats are cool, but They're kind of aloof, you know, they want to be pet and then they go away and they're cool. They just want to go outside and kill something. Your dog is like your friend. That's a hangout with you. Like I take him to work.

Every day when I bring out the ball, I think he's going to be bored with the ball. I bring out the balls like today's like enough with the ball. But nope, every day's like the fucking ball. He's got the ball. He's running around circles jumping up in the air trying to steal the ball from me before I throw it. It's amazing.

What the hell is this? You probably smell like a chemical factory. What the fuck is this dude smell like?

We mean, do you work alone? We're alone.

No, no, no, no, no. No, I don't work alone. No, I barely wear, I only wear the other one because I don't want to be offensive. Because I will get offensive. I'll smell terrible.

Have you been told this by someone or you just like deduced this on your own?

Odors are interesting because you know, your all factory senses, they detect changes in smell. They don't detect static smells. That's why people that live in an area like with a slaughterhouse, they don't freak out. Like my family used to live in Pennsylvania. And when I would drive from New York to go visit them, when I would drive through these areas where they have farms and slaughterhouses fertilizer, it's fucking terrible smell in the whole town. Like how could these people live here? They don't smell it. Oh, the no body odor gene. That's what you have. People have the ABCC-11 non-functioning gene variant have dry earwax and little to no body odor.

Yeah, some sort of a gene expression. Interesting. I wonder what the like benefits we were talking about this yesterday like people that didn't shower There was people that went their whole life without bathing because bathing was considered a sin. It was sinful. You wanted to discourage people. What was that about what that we're reading? It was something religious, right? It was It was about like royalty and old-timey people But, uh, Saint Agnes, is that who it was that when it's whole life without bathing at all? It's whole life, no bathing.

Yeah. Yeah. But generally, no, because I work out. So if I work out, I wish I were. I wish, and I'll hold plunge and sauna. So that's, you know, you just drenched this way. You feel like shit if you don't wash off.

For the day. Yeah. I don't look nice. You want to feel nice? Put that watch on? Put the watch on.

Do you use the eight-sleep thing? Does it help you? Well, it's

Maybe she got a nutritionist. You got some bread. Get a nutritionist. What's someone who you can show the data to and they'll tell you what you're doing wrong?

Yeah, definitely companies that do stuff like that. Okay. Yeah, you can get that done. Yeah, you should do that. I bet the late night eating things are real problem. That one makes you feel terrible.

At one o'clock in the morning last night, I was cooking elk steaks. One o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Well, then you were up to 4.30. I was up to 3. Yeah.

Yeah, a couple of hours. Yeah, but I've done it like where I eat and go right to bed.

Just go for a walk right in the neighborhood.

I'm just going to share that. Oh, it's over my lab. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's from Andrew Hooverman. Again, brief post meal walks and blood sugar regulation. So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post meal walk as simple as it may sound, the data's impressive. And it is impressive stuff. I forget exactly what the numbers were, but you should 30, 35% change in your blood sugar level. This is where you're taking a walk around the block after a meal.

Well, the tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take the float tank takes a lot of time, but the other things, like, Cole Plunge adds three minutes to my day, sauna adds 20 minutes to my day. He's 25 extra minutes of my workout. That's it.

No. No. You get things done, man. Just sit you exaggerating. I don't know.

It's the way you do humor.

Exactly. It's plenty of time. It's plenty of time. You just don't waste you to like today. I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days. I just felt like indulging myself. Like this fucking see what's going on in the world. Butch and nonsense. Some interesting things. But just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour, just wasted, just scrolling.

Well, it depends on how you want to feel. If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things. And I firmly believe this the reason why I'm so productive. And I think if I didn't do the coal plunge and the saw on the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being.

The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it, like there is with the traditional dry sauna. A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data. And the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough. because you'll cook because it's just too crazy. You know, you can't get 190 degrees steam shower. You'd literally go in there and it's called your skin. But you can get 190 degrees dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat. And that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins. Because your body's reacting to it overheating so it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect. And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life. I mean, there's a study out of Finland They did a 20-year study that found that using the sauna four times a week. For 20 minutes at a time, I think it was 175 degrees, lowers your all-cause mortality by 40%. That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything, lowers it by 40%. And this is a long term study of many, many people.

Yeah, it's all good. A hot bath is good. Everything is good. Getting your body to heat up is good because it gets your body to react and it's the same thing. It develops those heat shock proteins. A really hot bath is very good for you. If you can get it a nice hot, especially if you get some abs and salts in there, you get that magnesium, get a really hot bath. Ooh, very, very good for you.

Does it seem to have a change in the way you feel?

Let's look into it for you because the magnesium puts bright. That's a, I'm now interested. What is the deal behind that?

Well, I would imagine it get absorbs through your skin just like the float tank does. The float tank is a great source of magnesium because there's a thousand pounds. of abs and salts in the water and your skin absorbs it. So to imagine your skin's absorbing that stuff you're spraying on your feet.

Yeah, so not good absorption, but it works a little bit. Okay. Full something.

Magnesium helps you to sleep though, right? That's a good one for sleep.

No, I don't know if you sick. Yeah, if you what I tell everybody if you are down if you're you're feeling shit and you're rundown Get an IV vitamin drip. It'll it's a game changer, especially with a high dose of zinc and vitamin C you get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better. Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last. I was like, how long you even sick for? He's like two weeks. I can't shake this call. I go, please listen to me. I just do this. Get a vitamin IV and he texted me the other day. He's like, Dr. Rogan, he goes, he fixed me. He was like, I'm gonna do that from now on. I'm like, from now on. Anytime you're sick, you feel like shit. Get a high dose vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal, in a bag. you'll feel much, much better. Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off, whatever the fuck is trying to get you.

as it hasn't helped.

If you've ever done any D, no, any D is rough. How do you say it again, nucleotide, adeninide? What does it do? Dicatininide, adeninide. At a nine, die nucleotides? Oh, yeah. What is it? So any D is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy, healthy bodies and young people. Founding all living cells, any idea is called die nucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorous groups. So you take that in an IV bag and generally most people do it over a long period of time. You do it over like two hours. So you just watch a movie because it's very uncomfortable. What they didn't yeah then the NAD is very uncomfortable it's very uncomfortable for your stomach makes you like crap Okay If you do it quick it's like it's a intense feeling that most people don't enjoy what's the what's the benefit so there's a lot of benefits is a benefit for your immune system is a benefit cognitively you feel much better You just you come out of it when your bodies replenish with that stuff you just feel fantastic feel really good something else I got but that's one that needs some time unless you can go hardcore and just like deal with the uncomfortable feeling doing anything hardcore nothing nothing in my life it's hardcore interesting interesting do you have a version to hardcore things or is this how it all paned out it's just a long how paned out hardcore for me is uh

Do you really wish that because I feel like if you did wish that you would just do it?

You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood. like live actual hardwood not just lump charcoal like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks or slowly like cooking the steaks rather and then searing them at the end over the coals I take the coals and I put the coals from the hardwood and underneath a grill and then see the shit out of it. Okay.

That's too much. But we're all different.

Yes. That it live. Oh, you want Oak? Generally, a live Oak or you want, if you want a grill hotter, you like a lot of guys like Mesquite. I like my ski and oak. Those are my two favorite, but I'll try cherry. I'll try some different woods. Some places you can go to get. Hardwood just for some, because there's so much barbecue out here. Yeah. There's companies that'll just deliver cords of wood to your house.

I bet if you went to like a real Italian pizzeria, they would show you how to do it.

That's like a little interesting. The one thing that you're successful at, like super successful at, you've like focused entirely on that.

That's probably a good way to live. Yeah, just to be casual, most of your life and being tense about one thing. That sounds like a good balance. How are these any wrong with that?

Yeah, I probably talking shit. Huh? Talking shit? That's probably good at talking shit. My kids are real good at talking shit. They say some funny things, man. It's fun. We have a fun house. It's like a lot of fun shit talking. That's always, that's always good. Then they make fun of me too, which is fun. There's no, you know, I could never make fun of my parents.

There was not a lot of joke around. No, so I love joking around. And so they make it funny all the time. Like hilarious. Your daughters? Yeah, they're funny. They're fun. They talk shit. And they know that I like it. They know that I laugh. So everyone's like, we have a good time. They talk shit to each other. They talk shit to their friends. It's like, talking shit is fun. It's like, it's a fun activity. It's one of the, my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club. Is that everybody's talking shit? You go back there. Everybody's busting balls, cracking on people, guys and girls. Everyone's laughing. Or I'll just, like, shit. Not each other. Yeah. And it's hilarious. It's such a beautiful environment, you know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people and everyone's laughing and we're all jazzed up because we're about to do shows and oh, I wish you were in last night. I wanted to take you to the club.

It's so much fun, man. It's such a great spot.

That's actually good. That's a good trait. Yeah. Yeah. And also when you're around those guys, like, hey, what a great time to sit back and listen. You got side-filled Napargazzi and Jim Gaffigan at room together. Look at that.

That's crazy. I was gonna say like look at you. You look like an Arab. Look at you. When did you turn into a guy from Palestine? I don't know.

That does not look like you. Am I right, Jimmy? Darn, he came up a yacht. There's no other way. Like the screw, it looks like a guy in the minutes or any of you shows you how to get octopus.

The balance they're making. He looks like a normal color in that which is wrong. Yeah, look at what look at dark here. Well, that at least looks like you that other photo did not look like you.

I believe you. I 100% believe you. I'm just saying that like go to that last photo, Jimmy. I'm not lying. Right. Go to that last photo. Get the fuck out here. That ain't you. That's some dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government. I mean, I came over here. Make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to come over to the Middle East. I know a lot of guys do comedy in the Middle East. They give you a list of shit you can't talk about.

That scares me. a list of shit you can't talk about like what if I slip up yeah if it's a moment in the crowd with the yells of the out and I think it would be funny to say something and whoopsies and there's a lot of editing now you're in jail yeah yeah um who had a problem with that uh who was it someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig and almost got arrested was that a gift Yeah, he, he, the only thing that saved him, I believe the story was, I believe it's Eddie. I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious. They didn't have a problem with what he said at all. I think he called someone's sir when you're not supposed to call him sir, you're supposed to call him your highness or your excellency. And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir. And then they were trying to arrest him afterwards.

No, it wasn't anything. That's why I'm nervous. Like, that's not even, I mean, that's not even anything crazy.

Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate after they do them. They go, why did I do that? Ron White just did one. He was his worst fucking experience in my life, but they offered me a shitload of money and I said, yes, the I kept saying, no, but they kept coming up with higher numbers. I'd eventually, I said, yes, and he was fucking terrible. Tony Handsquiv just did one. He said, it was fucking terrible. They're always terrible.

He told me he ate dick at a corporate gig. Yeah, I mean, I'm Sandler. Yeah, they're not. They paid to see Adam Sandler. They knew Adam Sandler was going to be there and it's still sucked.

They're all scamming about their careers. They're all networking. Yeah. I fucking make it a little backstabby moves.

Jay Leno loves them. Yeah. I mean, that's where he's made the majority of his money. Jay Leno, all those fucking cars he has, never spent a dime of his tonight show money. I know. Never spent a dime. Put it all in the back. It's amazing. All that money, all those cars, it's all him doing gigs.

I don't think that way. I never thought it would be popular in the first place. When I first started doing it, it was just me and Brian Redband and my fucking living room. Like, and then comedians, Joey Diaz come over. Eddie Bravo comes over, Ari comes over. We just haven't fun. Just talking shit. I never imagined. I didn't plan for it. Like, when everybody has those vision boards, like, this is how you become successful. You have to manifest it. I didn't manifest this at all. Zero. The most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot. And I've put zero management into it. The all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing and it turns out other people enjoy too. That's it. It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with, have civil conversations with people. You disagree with things. It's good for you too. Just all I do is just do what I enjoy doing. If I could do this for free, I would still do it. Okay. I enjoy it.

I don't even have any aspirations for growth. I don't say, you know, when by this time next year, I'd like to have a

Yeah. I feel like everything else is a distraction. Like as long as you're making enough money, you know, Brian counts it something once and I never forgot it. He said, in we were kids, we were in our 20s. He said, the only amount of money you need is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost. Everything else is bullshit. If you got enough money, we can go to restaurant and you don't worry. Just order a bottle of wine, order meat, order whatever you want to eat. You don't think about the price. He goes, that's real freedom. Just everything else. Like, all that other shit, that's all just, it becomes complicated. You don't need that. What you just real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills. That's the real, like, I experienced that leap that jump when I got a development deal. So I was like, I guess I was 25, 26 maybe, 25. I got this development deal from Disney and it was like $150,000 and I couldn't believe it. I had $150,000. I felt like a physical weight lift over my shoulders because back then I was a Road comic, you know, you do a gig on Thursday. It's 200 bucks. You do a gig here. It's 150. You're scraping together enough money so that you could pay your bills and eat. And you were always worried about gigs. Always trying to fill my book. Always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey. Where do I gotta go to make some money? And it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it, right? Trying to become like a, like a, like, I just didn't really think I was a legit professional comedian. It could all go away. And so I got that development deal. And it was the nutty as feeling in the world. It was like I felt lighter. I felt lighter and then I was like, oh, that's the key. Like get the monkey off your back, get the bill monkey off your back and that's the real freedom. The real freedom is not being rich. You don't feel any different being really rich other than the stuff that you can do than the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid. That's what you want. All that other shit is like the other thing I noticed When I moved to California, it was the first time I had a nice apartment. And I'll never forget this either. I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood. I had a loft at a pool table in my apartment. I was like, this is amazing. How is this real? How's this mine? After a while, it just became my house. And then I realized, like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. It's the same feeling. It's like, oh, this is home. It's the same feeling. It's not better. It's not worth the amount of money that it costs if you're like renting a house. It's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills. It's not worth that. It's what's worth it is if it's comfortable. If you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals, you're good. That's what you need. That's all you need. Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get all these other things. Lease you in this constant state of anxiety. I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more. I just concentrate on what I do. That's all I concentrate on. I concentrate on work, I concentrate on comedy, I concentrate on UFC fights, I concentrate on podcasts. And I don't think about those other things. I don't think about the direction of my career at all.

Adam Curry was the original. The MTV VJ. He still got a podcast now. He's excellent. He's a good friend of mine. And he's the number one guy. He's the pod father. Okay, he's the pod father. He's seen, named it, they started it off together. Yeah, they started doing it years before I ever did it. And yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine. Adam Corolla was the first because Adam did it off of radio. So Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern slots when Howard Stern went over to serious. Remember that? So he had this morning show and that morning show was doing real well until Do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA before podcast? There was like Tom Lycus was on there. And there's a bunch of good shows. And that also made me think about doing podcasts too. I mean, I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing. But I was like, this is a talk radio station now. Like talk radio got so big mostly because of Howard I think. But because, but there was a whole station. where you could listen to this station. It was all talk radio all day long.

It's definitely a lot better. Yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people. Yeah, it's his skill. You learn it. It makes you a better conversationalist in the real world for sure, which you more consider it.

It's podcasting 15 years. 15 years somewhere around there, closing it on 15 years.

And he's catching them in his mouth. Fifty yards.

The marshmallow combo. Aziz, he's not catching all of them. No, he's catching them. He's catching them and then spitting them out. Oh my god, that's insane. One of these guys threw it 50 out.

Same Shane once. Yeah.

Who would have ever thought that that would be a thing? Oh, he dives into it.

What's definitely consuming a lot of your time? I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if I look at my screen time on an average day, I'll be more than four hours. and how much of that is doom-scrolling. A lot. So that's entertainment. So would I have been watching television during that time? No, probably not because you could take your entertainment with you now, which is even more distracting.

Yeah, I mean, I spent a lot of time doing that, too.

And we didn't see it. There was probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it. And everybody would come up over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face? Yeah. I'm sure. But it just never would have been the discipline that it is now where this guy's got like fucking guys blocking them. And he's jukein' left and right and catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. I mean, it's pretty impressive stuff.

And it is a new form. That's another thing you could say about podcasting, too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music, right? Most of the time, unless you listen to talk radio, of course. But now, the podcast thing is like, you could pause at any time, you could start at any time. So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two-hour road trip, now you're occupied. Now the road trip's easy. Because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit and Joey Diaz's telling stories and it's great. I mean, so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available. It wasn't being utilized before. And so what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit. I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen or sit there and watch. I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking, you get your earbuds in, you listen into a podcast or while you're driving or Well, you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored. You get to listen to some interesting shit and I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, is that the jam and I was listening to Shane was hilarious. You guys were killing me like that kind of stuff is or they this is guy with that power plant you of Egyptian pyramid guy, you believe that? What do you think about that? I was in the gym, it was kind of freaking me out. So it gives you this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before. That's not, it's not completely useless, right? Like the scrolling for stuff and the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth, I'm not getting anything out of that. It's fun. It's interesting. It's kind of useless. But podcasts are not, you know, you do get to sit in on interesting conversations, you get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before, so it wasn't available before and because of phones and because everybody, it's so easy to get a podcast. Everybody has access to them. Do you listen to podcasts?

I listen a lot of different podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to history podcasts. I listen to podcasts about science. I listen to podcasts about, you know, pretty much everything. Hunting podcasts, you know, which are very valuable. Hunting podcasts is a, it seems easy. like the idea seems easy to people. It's not. It's really hard. And there's a lot of things that people learn along the way on in their journey of hunting and they'll explain it to you. And so if you encounter that, I'll say, oh, Ravi Warren said, when you do this, be careful of that, now that's in my head. So it's just like, it's a way that you could accumulate information.

He's hard. He's hard. You've even want to do podcasts with him. I have to make notes. I make notes that I ask him afterwards. But he's very fact-based. And he's a great guy, too.

Like, who are you nervous to interview? Roger Penrose, no bell prize winner. He's just a brilliant mind and older, you know? So I'm like, how is this conversation going to go? How do I engage him? I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here, so I want to be prepared. No good questions. I don't know how much the experience those guys have on podcasts or how much their experience they have at all with comedians. I don't want to fuck around too much. I just want to just get the most out of him that I can get. I just want to try to massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are and what I'm actually and also very fascinated by his research. So I really, it's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person You know, because he's done a lot of research in the big bang. He's got a very interesting thought about the big bang that he doesn't think the big bang was the beginning of the universe. And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now. It's very fascinating stuff. The idea that the universe is eternal or much older than we think it is.

But it makes you more flexible as a person too. You can have conversations with all kinds of people.

It's better. It's, I like it. It's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast. You know, 2009 I was very close minded. I just was doing it just for fun. I mean, I was open minded generally, but not like I am now. I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought. and what my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways instead of like considering them from a broader perspective. But when you do a podcast, you kind of force to do that because there's a lot of times when I even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of somebody who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this? Yeah. So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration Like, okay, but why? Someone could think of it this way. Do you think of it this way, ever? Have you ever tried to think of it this way? And just like, see, you know, how their brain works. Because everybody's brain is, you know, they're different. You know, you have children. And one of the things you find out when you have children is brought right out of the box, they're different people. They are different people. It's fascinating. Because you, you know, you meet a kid in these four. You're like, look at that smart kid. You know what, an interesting kid. But you don't you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and go on this all from the same father like this is nuts. They're totally different things. They have different personalities, different likes, different strengths, you know, it's really interesting.

That helps a lot. That helps me a lot. If I could take my family with me. You know, I take them with me a lot of times on Vegas UFC trips too. It's nice.

Also, Vegas is a fun place to do stuff. You know, there's other stuff we could do before the fights. I don't know if you ever done escape rooms, you ever do escape rooms?

Don't get that tank then. Don't get that sensory deprivation tank.

Well, he could always ask somebody else. You know, he could just ask someone else. Yeah. But you were by yourself.

Yeah, me too. I always move seats. Yeah. I'm always worried about other people freaking out. Like there was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was going to take the plane down. It's guy stood up in the middle. You see that guy, Jamie? There's a few lately. That's what I always worry about. I worry about, I worry about someone freaking out. I worry about another person that you're going to have to deal with. I feel a little of somebody's fucking stab people. Did he stab someone? He had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple of people. Yeah, he was saying that he was gonna take everybody out. Oh god.

The problem with handling it is you're probably going to get sued and you might even get arrested and depends on how much damage you do. You could permanently damage someone. People are very flippin' about beating people up, but you could easily permanently damage someone.

I was on a plane once a lady asked me if I would help her because these two guys were fighting. One guy got in first and he put his briefcase above this other guy's seat and then he sat down and then the guy who was right behind it goes, no, no, no, that's my spot. That's my seat. That's about over here. No, it's not. It's first come first serve. Put it somewhere else. It was open. I put it in there and he goes, no, that belongs to my seat and then they started getting like, belligerent with each other it started getting like to the point like oh my god at least it's kind of fight in first class and so then this fucking lady who is the flight attendant she came in and told them both she was going to have them remove from the plane sit down shut up and then she came to me and she goes if anything goes down you're going to help me right what do you want me to do because if I'm going to help you it's it's going to get real messy You're going to say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy. Like, you know, I'm not going to like, I'm not going to play nice. If you're on a plane and you've got to take someone out, you have a very short amount of mood. It's got to be very violent. You've got to debilitate them. You've got to like take them apart right there. You can't like hope that you can hold onto them and then they relax, then what you go back to your seat, then you've got to put them out. Yeah. You've got to You got a wrist.

It's got to be violent. If you're going to, if you got a guy like that with a knife, you're not go grabbing that guy. You're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and holding him down. You're going to beat his fucking brains in. You're going to stop his body from moving. Because otherwise it's dangerous, like you're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational, possibly schizophrenic who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy. He could kill everybody. Pastor Stab's fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight. Okay, so what's going on? Fashioned a handmade weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the aisle.

Yeah. He's so developed up, made a weapon out of his pens. He taught all his pens together and held onto them. Wow. He said, uh, I planned on attacking and killing him to defend the state of Jesus Christ. Defendant felt the mafia had been chasing him the last few months. Yeah, so you go. So he just gets a frantic and you know, they don't have fucking scans for that when they bring them in. Oh, during the interview, the defendant admitted to the FBI agency was trying to stab CR in the eye to reach CR's brain to kill him.

The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack, because she was shielding the couple's seven-year-old son Jesus. Christ, man. So this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him.

First of all, there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing. So there's like people are more belligerent towards authority. So you have that. And then you have the general heightened level of anxiety of the population post-COVID went up substantially. COVID fucked a lot of people's lives up we got lucky we were very fortunate we make money we were able to make money during the pandemic we had enough money to be good okay a lot of people that's not the case so so many people lost their businesses so many people lost their lives so many people have a deep distrust for the government in the world now And then there's this thing where people are being coddled for being mentally ill, where you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about. It makes you interesting. So I think people encourage mental illness. They encourage breakdowns. And they do it all the time in the real world. And so they think they could do it on fucking planes. And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who were just out of their fucking minds who really shouldn't be out there in the world. And, you know, they think the mafia is after him and they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16a. You know, the whole thing's nuts. And it's just like, I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before. And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media. You're being fed every day. The worst shit that's happening in the world. Gaza, Ukraine, you know, the fucking oceans boiling. Oh my god, what is happening? Putin's doing this and Xi Jinping is in control of that and the fucking borders open. Ah, fentanyl. You know, it's just like everyone's on edge. So you get all those people and you stick them in a fucking tube. And then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really, there's no authority figure on that plane. There's these women, these poor women or men or whoever they are, that's flight attendants, that have to fucking deal with these people. And most of them are just regular people. They're not, I mean, they do have those guys that hide under cover that are on planes occasionally. What do they call those guys? Yeah, what are they called them air marshals? They stopped doing that. Oh, great. Of course they did.

Exactly. And who's gonna get hurt along the way? What if he did stab that guy in the eye? You know, like Jesus Christ. You know, even Mike Tyson got in the fucking fight on a plane. Some guy kept fucking with him. He turned around and beat the shit out of the guy. And now Mike's getting sued.

You thought I should go to, they should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible.

I go back and forth. I don't generally like the idea of 58-year-old men fighting. It seems crazy risky at this point in your life. You're definitely going to be slower. You're definitely going to be reflexes. You're going to be slower. You can't take shots as much. But I don't think that a 50-year-old man today or a 58-year-old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 50-year-old man when we were kids because of hormone replacement. So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike Tyson doing everything. He's doing all kinds of things. He's not a regular 57 year old guy. And then you see him hit the paths and he goes, Jesus Christ, man. I mean, this is a terrifying human being. I mean, he's still fucking terrifying, hitting the bag, hitting the pads. He still has the ability to deliver those punches. And if any one of those hits anybody, they're fucked. You're fucked. It's not like his punches are 30% of what they used to be. They're like 80 to 90% of what they used to be. Somewhere in that range, it's probably a little slower than he used to be. He used to be insanely fast. There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19-year-old, and he's throwing these combinations, like, BAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAADAA And that was a big factor in his success. He does not have that kind of speed anymore. But he's still fast. He's not slow.

That's crazy.

That's crazy. He looks He's 10 years younger than me in that video.

Look, young ass Billy Joel. Tina Turner. Willie Nelson look young. Damn. Hold, hold, Willie Nelson there.

What was forming when he came back? 45 when he won the title. 43. I think he was 33 or 36 when he was coming back and everyone was mocking him and then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years old. He's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title. And that was before hormones.

Yeah, it's similar. I mean, Foreman wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now. Tyson's still faster, but he's smaller too. George is a very big man. George has enormous, he has hands that like the size, his fist like the size of a cigar box. They're fucking giant fists, which is a big factor in punching power. You know, this was George at 45 years old. And Michael Moore, who was a sensational light heavyweight, was kind of undersized as a heavyweight? As a light heavyweight, he was a fucking assassin. But George caught him with a one, two and put him out at 45 years. And a fight he was losing. And Michael Moore was out boxing him.

No. He was much slower. But George was always kind of slow. He just has thunderous power. He was never like a real fast guy like Ali or any of those other guys. He was just thunderous, ridiculous power.

A legitimate boxer. Yes. People mocked me when I was saying that before. But now I think people are coming around. And the way I look at it, I say if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube and you just saw him box and you saw him knock out former UFC champions, you saw him beat legitimate boxers, or beat athletes and beat a bunch MMA fighters. You'd go, this kid can fucking fight. He knows how to fight. It's not, nothing he's doing looks wrong. He's not like stickin' his head straight up in the air and winging punches of his eyes closed. He's fighting well. He looks good. And if he was just an up and coming boxer, that was this exciting, highly promotable, really good at selling fights, he'd be like, this kid's the future. He's really something special. And the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson, even if Tyson's 57, just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do. Because that's what he's doing, that the gamble is like, there's not a fucking chance in hell. that Jake Paul would survive against the Mike Tyson, the Beat Marvel's Frazier. You ever watched that fight? Yeah. That's my favorite Mike Tyson fight, because that was Mike Tyson before he won the title, it was ABC White World Sports, and Joe Frazier had been talking shit about Tyson that he was in his prime, he would beat Tyson, and so he had a son fight Tyson, and it was an execution.

It looks, let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch ties because it's Tyson in his prime where he was fucking terrifying. He was so fast and he would do angles and he was bobby weave and you couldn't hit him and he was just common at you. And it was young. He was 20 years old at the time. He couldn't be stopped. No one had the solution. And I submit that that mic Tyson, the mic Tyson and one, the title against Trevor Burbick, the mic Tyson that beat Larry Holmes. I think that mic Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time. I don't think anybody fucks with him. It just heat. didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing the buster Douglas and you know it's I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime like what what did you what have you ever seen that was better than this and with my ties and I've never seen anybody better I've never seen any fighter even Ali in his prime even Ali when he was cashless clay I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime I think it just, you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy. I mean, Marvelous looks fucking terrified and he should be. Because he kind of knows, I mean, Marvelous was a good fighter. Marcus was a good fighter, but this is just a terrifying mismatch. Like if I had, if I was a Vegas oddsmaker, I would put this at a million to one. I'm like, he has to break his leg. Like he has to fall down and twist an ankle. Like otherwise, he's, so Tyson was 20 and Fraser was 25.

Is there another Tyson out there or is it they can always emerge the combat sports always look so this is the beginning of the fight look you just move and forward and Fraser's just trying to just bob and weave and find his openings but Mike never gives you any time man he never gives you any time he's always right in front of you and he's just measuring you and it's just a matter of time before he catches you and here it is Look at this. Oh, wow. I grow. He just puts him away. Just puts him away. It's an execution. It was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance. This Mike Tyson, as fast as he was as hard as he hits, I maintain he's the greatest. Yeah. The greatest heavyweight ever. Like that Mike Tyson, those fights were you wanted to see executions. You didn't think anybody was going to beat him. Everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring. I don't think we see this again, Joe. You never know.

He's a favorite. Yeah. Well, he's 27 years old and he's a really good boxer. He's a very good boxer. Like he's a legitimate professional boxer. He fought Tommy Fury who's also a legitimate professional boxer. A real good one. He's, you know, he's Tyson Fury's younger brother and he lost a close decision. But it was a good fight. A real good fight against a good fighter. He can fight. Yeah. But if that Mike Tyson from Marvel's Frazier fought Jake Paul, Jake Paul's dead, he's dead. He's not gonna make it. So you have to say how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20-year-old guy in the 37 years since then, which is creepy 38 by the time they fight. He'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight.

He hasn't lost everything. Yeah, see him hit those pads absolutely has not lost everything but he's lost some but coming from the best.

We're still not normal. But he's still like a professional heavyweight boxer. He's still terrifying.

Coming off, it's hard to say because you never bet against a 27 year old.

That, you know, it's also his mind. you know like Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war like he was doing this interview and someone said to him he goes he goes you look like you're in your 20s like what are you doing he was I'd see raw meat Because I ain't raw meat. He goes, you eat raw meat. He goes, yeah, I'm eating raw meat. He goes, because that's what I'm gonna eat when I fight. I'm gonna eat him. It's raw meat. Yeah, he's like Jesus Christ. He said this fucking mode. He's in that God of War mode and that he still got that in him and I'm telling you if you keep giving that guy hormones and you keep giving that guy supplements and you keep and he's constantly training his. Look at this. What do you eat?

Bro, he's in savage mode right now. He's in savage mode. If I was Jake Paul right now, I would be shitting my pants off.

It's all, it's all the experiences he has had as a conqueror. You have to take those into consideration. When a man has smashed men before, just smashed men. Like when no one can stand in front of them, that is in his mind still. That's in there. There's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up. And I think he's got it open. The question is, can his body move along with it? But that part of his mind, you're clearly seeing. He's terrifying when he's in the zone. I change the shape of the table because of him. This table was, we had the table that was this size at the old studio. And the new studio, I was like, maybe we'll make the table smaller. It'll be more intimate. It'll be closer to the guest. And so we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds. And he was just eating and having fun and smoking weed. He goes, I don't even work out. He goes, if I work out, I'll excite myself. It'll excite my ego and then I don't like that person. So he just decided that he was just going to be chill Mike Tyson. And then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr. So he gets an insane shape and the next time I see him the second podcast we do Mike now weighs 230 pounds and he's got these muscles in his forearms so he's sitting there and he's a different human he's so intense that I was like if this table was closer to him I would be nervous like I wouldn't be able to do my best job As a podcaster, I literally, this, the reason why this table is this width is the second podcast I do at Mike Tyson. Even Jamie, Jamie, when Mike left, Jamie's like, that's a different person. Is it totally different person, right?

Hopefully you've heard. So intense. He was so intense. And that was a fight with Roy Jones Jr. Where he just decided, you know, to have one more legends fight. And he got, like, look at him.

You got both things playing at the same time. Oh, that was so good. You had animosity towards, so we could finally get your hands on him.

Yeah. So that's going through your mind right now.

Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like you reached a state as a human being, as a champion, as a ferocious fighter. You reached a state of ability and of accomplishment. Very few humans were

He's running when you're hitting the bag when that heart's beating again. Because I'm firing him up right now. You're Mike motherfucking Tyson. So when you're doing all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson. Those thoughts have gotta be burning inside you again. It's gotta be pretty wild.

Well, of course, there's a strange conversation to have because he was like so focused and so intense. You know, it was almost hard pulling conversation out of him.

I don't want to frame it around that guy Kevin Hart said it best because it's like being a ruin with a lion like he didn't even have to lie he was like Jamie Fox still joke is like some of a lot of people at loose in the room they'll know who's it is James got to play him in a movie which has got to be terrifying like don't piss that guy off I never talk like that. Oh sorry sorry sir I'm curious. I'm going to watch the fight. We're all going to watch the fight. Yeah. I'm going to watch it. I mean, it's a brilliant move by Jake because like if he was going to fight anybody else, people would watch, but would the same amount of people watch? No. No. This is the one. And this is the one where the old heads are all sitting around like going, oh, yeah, back in wait until he gets a lot of Mike Tyson. Well, he's going to regret that. And all the old guys are like pulling for him like, come on, Mike, come on. One more. You got one more in you.

I think the Roy Jones fight they made in agreement not to punch an ad. I'm pretty sure because I watched that fight carefully many times and it never looked like he was targeting Roy's head. which makes sense why Roy agreed to do the fight. You know, I think they probably made an agreement. It would be like a real boxing match, but just don't knock me out. Because he Roy's a smaller person, much smaller. Roy was the, at his very best we was 168 pounds. And then when he was weighing a 175 pounds, he, you know, he didn't even have to cut weight. He was playing. He Roy famously played a basketball game, a full basketball game, the day of his fight. play a basketball game, and then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds. You know, that's how good Roy was in his prime. But Roy was 168 pounds in his prime. He wasn't Mike Tyson's size. Mike Tyson's fucking enormous. He's just a different mass. He's with the density. It's terrifying. And if They're older guys. I could imagine them making a degree. Because if you watch the highlights, Mike never punches them in the face. And even if they do punch each other in the face, it seems like it's just like jabs and small punches. It's almost like sparring shots. It's not like anybody's like really like winding up, you know, really like throwing everything at it.

Yeah, I do not believe that's the case. I think this fight is going to be a real full bore 100% fight. It's not even an exhibition. It counts on their professional record. So it's a professional fight. Okay. Yeah. Is it eight rounds?

Yeah, they made it two-minute rounds because Tyson's old and they were gonna do 16 ounce gloves at the down to 14 I believe. Is that the case? I think they're 14 ounce gloves, which is not much bigger than a regular glove. You know, regular gloves, 10 ounces in the heavyweight division, six ounces in lighter divisions. I think they use eight in some divisions too, but most like big guys use 10 ounce gloves.

Not at all. No, it's terrible for you. Yeah, they're basically agreeing to brain damage. They're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head. Because you have to get slapped. You have to stand there and get slapped. And the only thing that could save you is if your slap is so good and you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do decide who slaps who first. Yeah. You slap that guy unconscious and then it's over. And it happens. Guys get slapped, you're literally taking a full-on blow to the face. Your hand can hit pretty hard. If you just think of that. Try doing that with your knuckles. That's hard to do. It hurts. It doesn't hurt at all when you do that. You can slam. So you could really fucking slap someone. You know, guys have knock eyes out, slap them many times. It's not hard to knock. You could KO someone. Boss Rooten was one of the, you know, all-time grades in MMA. And he started his fighting in a organization called Pancrease. And Pancrease in Japan, this was the early days, but like, as the UFC was just emerging. They started doing fights with no gloves on, but they said instead of punching, you could only slap. So, what boss Ruten, he's got very flexible wrists, so you pull his hands way back like this, and he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands. So he wasn't throwing him like you were thinking like a bitch like that. He was throwing punches with his palms. He was uppercutting guys and knocking him unconscious with his palms. So that is what you're agreeing to when you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting a guy walk you in the head. You're agreeing to getting you could easily get killed easily get your job broken. Easily get your eye socket shattered. Are these ex-boss? This is boss. So look how you see how you drop that guy with that palm strike with the way he throws it. It's like a punch. Boss was a fucking animal. He was an animal, a terrifying human being. Great guy, but man, in his prime, he was just destroying people. He was one of the first high-level strikers that made his way into mixed martial arts. And he eventually became the UFC Heavyweight Champion. Well, see, what was the kickboxing from Holland, the motherland?

Oh, yeah, some of the all-time greats came at Holland. Yeah, for whatever strange reason it was like it was a background of Kyoka Shin and a lot of them got into kickboxing and Moitai and there was a guy named Ramon Decker who's like to this day one of the most legendary Moitai fighters of all time since dude who came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just fucked everybody up You ever seen ever heard of Ramon Decker's show Ramon Decker's highlight reel? He was like, a mini kickboxing Mike Tyson. Yeah. This is just it was a monster. Because a lot of the guys that went over the tile and they were bigger than the ties. But Ramon Decker's was the same size as the ties. But he was just fucking ferocious. Look at this motherfucker. Bro, he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused. And as doctor was like, you have to stop fighting, or you're gonna lose your foot. And it's like, yeah, yeah, whatever. Just fucking bolt this thing down so I could get back at it again. I mean, his highlight reel is just fucking terrifying. It's just him balling people.

No, not as much, but it definitely hurts. I mean, especially if you hit the in-step or like an elbow or something like that, Yeah, but shins, shins are pretty good at tolerating pain.

That's just, well, you get conditioned, you know, you get conditioned to the point where you can, they can bang your shun against things.

Yeah, they train on banana trees. But banana trees are pretty soft. You can kick a banana tree and they give out the, they give a little bit when you hit them. It's not like a regular tree.

I kicked one just to see what it was like. Because I've seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them. Yeah, it's not the worst thing to kick. It gives a little bit. So there it is. See? Because it gives. Oh, yeah. See how it gives when he's kicking it. It's flexible. Like you could actually train on a banana tree. It's not a bad thing to train on.

Yeah, see, it moves. It's really not that much different than a heavy bag. It just looks crazy because you're like, my God, it's kicking a tree. Yeah, yeah. But there's heavy bag. Like we have a heavy bag out there in the gym. It's my friend Kevin Ross gave it to me and it's filled with sand. And that's just to condition your shins. That one's horrible. That one you kick. It's like, oh. Usually it's cushioning like there's foam and then it depends on what the stuffing is sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that and the whole idea is it's really packed down tight and it's heavy so it's like 130-150 pounds and it's long and you can do leg kicks on it and But the sand one is just hard as a rock. It's just dud, dud. And you do that just to condition your shins. That's the one you practice on just to condition yourself.

How did he detach?

Oh, wow. I've seen guys have that before. My friend Matt Sarah has that. He is like, his bicep when he makes a bicep, like half of it is missing. Okay. It's like, it curled up on one side. Matt Sarah's a fighter?

That is odd. But you have most of your bicep? Yeah, but that's an on this side too. The same side? Did you go to a doctor? Yeah, he says he's not in your good mood about it. But he said it's detached. It's gone and you don't know why.

And you still get that fixed if you do it right away.

So it seems like with you there was no trauma. No. It doesn't even make any sense. No sense. Everybody I know that's done that like it's usually boxing or jiu-jitsu or lifting weights or something like that it's painful. It's fuck instantly There's a video of a guy doing curls and as he's doing curls his biceps snaps and curls up and you see like

Well, it doesn't seem like you'd fix your range of motion either.

No, you should. Because if you don't, the bicep is not going to be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one. Yeah, definitely, you're fine. You're fine. Yeah, you could do everything. You just gotta get strong. Just strengthen all those surrounding tissue you're fine.

Yeah, but you haven't lost your biceps, your biceps are there. It's like whatever that other thing is that attaches, that's not there anymore. But I don't think you need that. I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it. I would legitimately. I wouldn't worry about it. I would just start working out. I would just like get really into like strengthening everything around it. That's right. Especially since you can't fix it. Can't fix it. But Matt does everything. I mean, Matt is a black phone jujitsu and his, his biceps, way worse in years. His is pulled all the way up to the top. So like at the bottom, like when you make a muscle like this part, he doesn't have this part. Yeah. It just flat. Yeah, it's meant. And it's like a little bit up here. I've seen a bunch of people who have that. Okay. That's a common thing.

It doesn't make sense that it didn't hurt at all. That seems weird. Strange. But you seem like you have full range of motion if you just keep on golfing.

I literally never do that.

I don't think it'll affect you. I bet you can still do bicep curls. No problem at all. I bet your biceps will grow. I don't think it's a problem. Mm-hmm Well, I don't think it's a problem. Okay. I don't know what happened. I don't understand it. It seems weird. Maybe it feel like it happened when you were way younger. You just didn't notice it. Maybe you got older. Your body changed.

I mean, the aesthetically you would have... So you just noticed it one day.

Well, yeah, missing muscle.

Obviously, I wasn't using it. Fell part.

Yeah, this guy isn't even fucking interested in this muscle. It's just quit audio. Do you have a trainer? Yeah. So how often do you work out?

I didn't want to get the surgery. Was it a dissectomy that they're trying to get you to do it was spinal?

There's a thing called the Dex. It's one of those teeter products where you hook your legs, this thing, and you lean your body forward. You know those ones you hang by your ankles? Those are good. Those are really good. They're great for a lot of reasons, but this one is my favorite for low-back decompression. This thing right here. We have one out there. I'll show it to you. It's called the DexDEX2. It's an inversion and core training system. But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported, you know, you can do like back extensions and stuff on it, but I really don't use it for that. Mostly what I use it for is just decompressing. So I get on it and all your weight is now on your thighs and all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing. And you feel it pop like I'll lie in it and it goes pop pop pop I feel it decompressed. It's amazing. I love it. And it also you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline and it's really good for strengthening those muscles. And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more. I'll do a set of back extensions on and then I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop and All right. Yeah, decompression of the back and spine is very important. That's that's why yoga is so good because you're stretching and decompressing things and if you're tight and that everything tight as you get older, like you just keep shrinking, you know, that's what happens to old people. They're fucking the space in between their spine goes away and then they get this hunch and then they're immobile. Yeah, you don't want to be immobile.

Pilates is amazing. They're very, very good for that. Yoga, very, very, very good for that. Anything you're using your whole body like that. You know? And a lot of people, there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to sciatica. There's tightness of the hamstrings. There's tightness of the upper quads that also affects your lower back and compresses everything. Like when I have back pain, I, one of the things that I do is I sit on my heels and I lean all the way back. So with my legs bent. And it really stretches out my upper legs, my thighs, my quans. And when I do that, I feel it in my lower back. Like I feel in my lower back relaxing. Like I feel it's stretching out. And then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that.

It's huge, and everybody's lazy. Nobody wants to stretch. Even me, even when I get done with a workout, I'm like, I could stretch. I should stretch, but I won't go eat. And sometimes I'll just go eat. But most of the time I stretch, and when I do, I always feel way better. Like, before a big show, I always stretch. Always.

Yeah, I just laid on the floor and started stretching. And when I do that, it's like everything just feels better. Because the physical tension that you carry in your body, if you can mitigate some of that, you just feel looser. Get out there, you feel loose.

How old do you now? 50. When you see guys that are 50 that don't take care of themselves though, you see the difference. That's scary. Yeah. That's scary when a guy's never taken care of himself and then he's 50. And you're like, you're in a state of total. I could pull your arm apart. I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket. There's nothing keeping that thing in there. Like you just you made it a gelo. Your body doesn't have any need to be strong because it never gets used. So your body just deteriorates and this like sunk in the lump. And now you're in pain all the time and now you got problems all the time. Now you don't even fucking energy to do things that you want to do. For me, the whole thing is mitigating mental illness, like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger, get that out, clean your mind out, and then make sure you have energy. The only way you can get things done is if you have fucking energy, especially like writing, like, you don't consider writing a physical health thing. But if you're tired, you're not gonna write as good. You're not gonna have the enthusiasm. You're not gonna have the energy. It's like for everything you need energy. And there's only one way to get that. You have to have a healthy body. You have to. It's like a part of the job. It should be a part of the job. I tried to tell it the fact, comedians. I'm like, I know you're great. But look, we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s. If Patrice was alive today, he'd have the number one podcast in the world. Patrice was alive today. He'd be selling out arenas. We lost him because he just didn't take care of himself. That's it. It's the only reason why.

Yeah, you're back out here in August. What are you doing in August?

It's an amazing venue. Yeah, this is a great town for comedy right now. There's a lot of a lot of big-time comedy fans here now.

Yeah, next time you're down, come by and hang out with us for a couple of days. Yeah, we do shows Tuesday, Wednesdays and Thursdays or my shows and this shows seven nights a week.

Well, California is a perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram out of Pulse.

We try five. Just try five.

Do you hear about the solar flares? There's a solar flares that are supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th. to some mass-coronal ejections that could play havoc with our communication systems or satellites could shut down the power grid if one's big enough. You haven't heard about this? I barely hear it about this. A friend of mine who is actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this. He said, it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact to this. Earth prepares for solar storm impact from three CMEs this weekend. Solar activity has reached high levels and the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M1-0. I don't know what that means. The most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668, as well as the production of numerous M-class solar flares and two X-class solar flares from what CME is coronal mass ejection that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend.

For me, what I got is a deep respect for these people that have not, they're not just watching the sun, but they've made regions of the sun. So they can refer to these specific regions where the solar activity is taking. Yeah. So I was saying the 10th and the 11th. That's what my friend was telling me. X 2.23 B flare. He was actually concerned that his wife is going to be out of town while this was happening. He's like, you should have food and you should be prepared. Yeah, despite this, go back up, the region continued to produce optical flares, radio bursts, and an isolated emblem. That's one of the craziest things about the sun. The sun is not static. It's like, fuck, it's gone. It's all over the place. It's got these giant ejections that could cook our satellites. And in the past, before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today, there was a big mass ejection, I think, that they recorded in the 1800s that, like, took out communications for whatever they had back then.

Are you a beach guy? Do you like going beach on vacation? Love the beach. A little margarita.

Mexico makes me nervous. Do you hear about the surfers? They just got killed in Mexico? Why? Why do you? I don't know. It sounded a well shot in the head and a well. You stole their car. Yeah. Shot him in the head and threw him down a well.

Come on. I mean, I don't know what happened to these guys, but shit.

Mexico's surfer death, man charge confessed to girlfriend. Oh, wow. Kill these two dudes over a car. Their bodies are found dumped in a cliffside well. Same thing after disappeared. Each were the gunshot to the head. It's terrible. There's shit there. Yeah, there was a fourth body that had been there longer. It was unconnected to the case.

Most of the time people go to Mexico, it's no worries at all. Yeah, no. I went down there once and I was worried and I saw Holly Barry there. I'm like, oh, she's here. No, I'm not worried. Yeah.

She's gonna be fun.

Mexico worries me though. But it's just like it's controlled by the cartels. The country is essentially controlled by the illegal drug market.

I've got a Mexico. I love Mexico, but it is what it is. It's a different kind of sketchy. And they're generally protective of tourists. They don't want to fuck them. And then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists.

It will happen on Willshire Boulevard Los Angeles. That's why I don't live in Los Angeles. I know. Yeah, it could happen anywhere really anywhere now. But Los Angeles is a higher likelihood of shit going silently. Yes. No, I agree. What's it like? You enjoying it?

Well, I know you looked out here for a little bit. I looked out here for a little bit. Now's a good time to look. Yeah. That was a lot of great houses that are available. Okay. A lot of money came here, a lot of people came here, a lot of building got done here. There's a lot of, I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested.

Los Angeles gets pretty fucking hot, dude.

What about San Diego?

Yeah, hotter than here.

There's some brilliant people in Florida don't get me wrong, but I would if you, you know, if you had to do like a statewide IQ test, it might be disturbing. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. A lot of people escaped to Florida for as a place of people ran from their past.

And quality of life might be better. It would be better. And that's Texas, too. Texas doesn't have to take taxes either. California is 14%, which is, it's insane.

Yeah, but it's not worth it. It's not worth it to be rooted in place at sucks. I understood that the conflict of feeling like why am I still here? I don't have any of that here. I had that feeling for a while in LA, even before the pandemic. I'm like, do I really need to be here? But I just didn't know another way to do it. It was like there's no other way to do everything that I want to do podcast comedy. I mean, LA. This is like, I guess is where I live.

I've been thinking about it for a long time. I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009. But I had been thinking about it for a while, but it didn't seem possible. But then when the pandemic hit, it was like, OK, the whole world is different now. Now you got to move. You got to get the fuck out of here, because Ellie was going sideways. And I am of the opinion that once things start going bad, it takes a long time, especially in a Democrat controlled state. It takes a long time for things to turn around. if they turn around at all. And everybody has this idea of, oh, this is LA, LA's like that. I'm like, no, it's not like that anymore. They're burning cop cars to military, looting businesses. They're letting people do it. They're smashing grabs. They're just telling you, you can't shop after six PM. This is madness. We gotta get the fuck out of here. That was my take. My take was like, this is not the same LA anymore. You don't stay in your house while it's on fire, just because like, put it, but it's my house. No, it's on fire. You gotta get out. So that was my take.

Well, the kids were young enough. You know, my youngest were 10 and 12 when we came here. And we got them to my real estate agent. She's brilliant. She took us to the lake. And the girls run a boat. We're all hanging out. We were jumping in the water together and swimming. People were listening to the fucking Leonard Skinner and people were singing and drinking and it was like, everybody's having fun. And there was no masks. Whereas an LA everyone was like terrified and locked down. And so this was in May of 2020. There was only two months into the pandemic and I was already trying to get out. And then by August I was already here. It was like fuck you guys. And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows, we started doing shows at Stubbs. And then November, we started doing indoor shows here, like Jesus Christ. And then it was crazy. And then the influx, everybody started moving here. So we were moved here, Tony Hinch Cliff moved here, Brian Simpson moved here, Derek Postan, a son of a mod, they moved here, William Montgomery moved here. Ron White was already here, don't control some moved here, Tim Dylan moved here. It just started getting crazy. Joe DeRose, you just got a spot here. Joey's coming next week. It's just, it's been amazing, but it had all those things had to like take place in the exact right order. It's almost like you had to hit every green light on the road. It's just all the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen. To make what actually took place. It's kind of crazy.

They're doing work on that. They're expanding things. There's going to be growing pains for sure. There's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago, but there was it had always been growing because I remember, you know, my business on it was out here and so we were coming out here for on it and every time I would come out over the years, I'd notice like traffic was picking up more and more before the pandemic. You know, so, but then during the pandemic, obviously there was a mass influx of people like we're getting the fuck out of California, and that was the biggest factor.

I know it just takes, you have to decide, because no, no place is going to be like, oh my god, this is perfect. No, yeah. Every place is going to come with a thing. But this thing is like also like way cheaper. It's a way cheaper to live here. Yeah. You get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house and your state taxes are non-existent, which is just way better. Because like if California was perfect and I had to pay a lot of money but they kept the streets clean and there was no crime and everybody's having a good time and there's great schools and great social programs like this feels good. I'm like, yeah, I'm spending a lot of money in tax but man, I live in a fucking utopia. I love it. This doesn't feel like that at all. No. Feels like you're getting fucked by people who tell you they're gonna fuck you and they have to fuck you and if you don't want to get fucked you're a part of the problem. Yeah. Like, oh, okay, I gotta get out.

I don't feel like that year. I don't feel like that year. I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville. I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida. I think this parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds and people gravitate towards those parts where people like realize like, hey, there's some real need for law and order. There's some real need for rules. There's some real need for, you know. You can't have your fucking ducks in a row. You can't let psychos take over the school systems, teach nonsense. There's a real, there's a good mixture. And I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal city. It's a very, very progressive city that's surrounded by ranchers. It's surrounded by fucking people in the small towns that are all, you know, driving pickup trucks and shooting signs. It keeps everything balanced.

Because even the most liberal people here, they're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in LA. Liberal people in LA were a cult members. And they felt like if you weren't on their team, you were some kind of a Nazi, and you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job.

And it'll be good time to know if you hate it because it'll be hot as fuck. Yeah, it's going to burn my skin.

All right, two of a few days. You got anything to tell people about?

Yeah, it's so it's on max.

We're filming. Well, that got Chuck Lori. That fucking guy's done it all. It's pro hits.

My family's addicted to the Big Bang Theory right now. So my youngest and my wife and I watched a big bang there. I've watched like a hundred episodes of the last four months. Yeah, it's a great. I underestimate that show tremendously because I'd seen clips online with the show sucks. And then you watch it. This is a funny show. It's a really well made show.

And they're making four camera, like multi camera sitcoms anymore.

Yeah, she's got a multi camera show. But I mean, do any network tell, like, what is on, like, network TV on, like Thursday night now? What's the, is it all like the bachelor show? Yeah, I think that kind of shit.

Game shows, reality shows. Big yeah.

Well, that's why I like watching the Big Bang Theory make me say like, I enjoy sitcoms. It is a great way to consume entertainment. You don't see them anymore.

Look at this, it gave me.

I want to see if comes are going to come back. I hope they do. If networks are smart, they put together some multi cam set comes because they're still a fun art form. It's still a fun way to consume humor. Yeah, it is.

I can't believe that we just said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years. Five to five.

I don't know. In 2019 I think. But before the pandemic, I think I saw you.

Like congratulations to you too, because I remember when you first started, I really do, I remember your first struggles at the store. And I remember I saw you, I was in Vegas, I was working in Vegas, and I was in my hotel room, bought myself, flip it to the channels, and I saw your special, and I think it was a showtime special. And I remember tweeting it, like, it was fucking great.

Well the problem was you started out as an open-micre at the comedy store in Los Angeles, which is crazy. Yeah. That's like learning how to play football with the giants. Yeah. Like it's nuts. Like just the idea behind it's nuts. Like it's a very, very difficult way to break into comedy. And so, everybody's terrible in the beginning. If they'd seen me six months in there, oh my god, it fucking sucks. I got it to get past.

I Drank way too much water, right before the podcast during oh, so you gotta pee right now real bad

Yeah, I see your face. We can wrap this up. The tour, all that. We're working the people find the information.

August 9th. If I'm here, I'm there. All right. I would love to see it. Great to see you again. And congratulations to all your success today. It's been beautiful to watch. Thank you. I'm very very very very very very very very happy for you.

Any time next time was not wait four years. Come back. Come back and August we'll do it again. All right. Appreciate your brother. Bye everybody.