Transcript for #2111 - Katt Williams

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The Joe, Rogan, experience. Join my day, Joe Rogan, podcast, my night, all day.

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What's up? How are you? I can't believe we never met each other until today. That's kind of crazy.

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It's really weird.

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It's kind of crazy. It was always like, at the store, they're like, how was your last night? I'm like, fuck, it was always true. Two ships in the night.

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Right. I would see you and I'll be able to get to you. Comedy is small, but only if you're mediocre. This big is a vast, vast place.

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It's vast and it's also small because it's so few of us. In worldwide, we were talking about this till the day. There's maybe $500 on the planet. You know, you gotta be real generous and say 500 because it's really probably about 250. Right. But legit comics. Guys, you want to hang out with? Guys, we're fun. Yeah, guys, you're number is going down. You're number is going down. You're number is going down. Guys, you'd recommend leave your house. Get a babysitter. The numbers going down. Stop a lot of people. Right. Think about the billions and billions of people on the planet. Imagine of us.

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Well, as As children, we all take to talking with ease. And so, the fact that later on your life, you'd be one of the people that could say I talk for a living is an amazing honor. To me, sir, even if you look a thousand years back.

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Yeah, especially today. To be able to talk for a living? Oh, my God. That's the problem also with what we do. Is that everybody can talk? So they see you talking. I could do what he's doing. Right.

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He's just up there talking. And the better you do it, the easier it looks. Right. It's just part of the trap.

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Yeah. It's part of the trap.

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It looks like he doesn't think about what he says. He just says stuff. But you can be as accurate.

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No, no. And then there's hanging around with comics and getting no about shit like they're electric Rolls-Roses.

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Right. Right, if Satan hits me, just know I'm hitting the back immediately. You're gonna know about it if I've never heard. Yeah, the electric specter.

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The thing is insane. The other thing's insane. Just the way the door's open up. The way the door's closed and touched the brakes.

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totally silent for the price point it would have to be perfect and the whole thing is it is and that's that's what you're trying to do in any genre like you're trying to find that thing that is flawless in that genre right and that's it does the roles roles never have one else Right. Well, because it's important to you that you be grounded in the important ways. So I can see you not have had a roll choice. I've had four, five.

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I'm not opposed to it. It's just the idea of it to me. It's like, don't do that. For me, you know, I'm always like, yeah, get away from that.

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Right. Right.

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It was also hard. Well, see, you see what I mean? Yeah, because Because we live by cariously through these things. And it's been that way for all of human kind. It was still like that for the Roman and his chariot. Like that's how he felt. Like that's how horsemen feel about that ride. You know like transportation and people have a love story.

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Yeah, that's really the only object that I'm really into. Like I'm in this.

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Yeah, vehicles.

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I'm in the mechanical vehicles. Right. There's like something about mechanical vehicles that just speak to me. I love them. I love looking at them. I love sitting in them. I love driving them. It's just like it's one of the things that people's like money can't buy happiness. That's definitely true. You fucked up. You're not going to get happier if you get rich.

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But if you're already reasonably happy and you're going to afford a nice muscle car, God damn you'll feel happier. You feel happier.

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But every time. So what I'm saying is when I got the 67 Chevy Camaro, I needed no other cars. I was complete. When I got the grand national, you couldn't tell me anything. There was nothing on the highway that was of my ilk. But I felt that way 12, 13 times. That's what makes it real love.

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Yeah, they give you real joy.

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Every time you drive them. And you feel like that character in that movie.

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You know, like, yeah. Yeah, you drive in 1970, should value you feel like John Wick.

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Yeah, it's a sacred sacred place. There's music there. There's recklessness, but there's safety. You know, it's like, it gets to the essence of a being.

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And I think it's a thing that won't exist a hundred years from now. I think automated driving will be mandatory. I really do. I don't, I think we're about a hundred years away. A hundred years away from no, no personal automobiles. No control of your vehicle. We're going to stop all crashes. We could stop all crashes in all highway deaths. Come on, cat. Won't you contribute and give up all your rights to drive? We're going to stop all death.

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Yes, not, but understand that. All of these things have financial benefits and then they use those perks you just mentioned to get you in, but it'll be mandatory. But for practical reasons like this thing where the police want you and they have to chase you and you may get away. Those those days are done. They're just gonna shut your car off. Yeah, your car is going to do it. They tell it to do to get behind this patrol car and follow us to the station.

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There was a that famous journalist Michael Hastings. This is journalist. I don't know if you know the story, but it's pretty crazy. This guy went to Afghanistan, so Afghanistan with the troops. And he was only supposed to be there writing a Rolling Stone article about this general for a very short amount of time. But then there was the volcano in Iceland. And the volcano in Iceland stopped air travel. So this journalist from the Rolling Stone was embedded in this this troop. And they started talking shit. And he started reporting the shit that they were talking, including disparaging comments that the general said about Obama. So the general gets back. He has to retire. He has to, you know, it's the rolling so exposed. It's a big deal because everybody loves his general. So he retires in this Michael Hastings guy is on the run and he's terrified. He's tell people if I commit suicide, I did not kill myself. People are threatening my life. And then he's going down La Breia and his car is going like 120 miles an hour. and just slams into a tree and explodes. And there's a video footage of it. This dude is just flyin' down the street, hits a tree and the car explodes. And they ask security experts at that time. I think there's like 2005, four, 2004, 2005, is impossible to control a vehicle remotely. They said, does your vehicle have a computer? If your vehicle has a computer, they can control it. Period. There's a way. And they know that. And they've been doing that for, this is 2010. 2010. So this is 14 fucking years ago. Easy, easy, easy. If they can do that then, what can they do now? Let's just shut your fucking car right off. This episode is brought to you by Robin Hood. You want financial security for you and your family? Well, you gotta make it happen. The world doesn't owe you a living and that's how I've always approached my finances and you can too with Robin Hood. Robin Hood pioneered commission-free stock trading over a decade ago and they continued to offer Innovative products to help you maximize your money's potential. With over 23 million funded customers, Robin Hood is helping people build a better financial future. Robin Hood gives you complete autonomy to make investments to pursue your future goals, whatever they are. Maybe you want to look towards investing for your family's future, investing for retirement, or even a vacation to the Bahamas. We all have some bucket list items to cross off and Robin Hood has tools to help you pursue them. Investing a small amount now could make a big difference 30 years down the road. Take control of your financial future with Robin Hood. Download the app or visit Robinhood.com to learn more. Disclosure. Investing involves risk and loss of principle is possible. Returns are not guaranteed. Other fees may apply. Robinhood Financial LLC. Remember, SIPC is a registered broker dealer. This episode is brought to you by Zippercrooter. Look, patience is good at all. But if you're just sitting around waiting for everything good to come your way, well, you're going to be disappointed. And you're going to miss out on some amazing opportunities like your dream vacation. You have to work. Save that money and actually plan it out. It's never going to happen if you just sit on your couch at home thinking about it. And the same applies to your company. You don't want to miss out on hiring the best people for your team. And luckily, there's an easy solution. that you can use. It's zipper cruder. Try it for free right now at zippercruiter.com slash rogan. They'll find you qualified people for your role quickly. And once you find someone you like, zipper cruder can help put you at the front of the pack. Just use their pre-written invite to apply message to connect with your favorite candidates ASAP. So, let ZipperCruiter give you the hiring hustle that you need. See why, four out of five employers who post on ZipperCruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Just go to zippercruiter.com slash rogan to try it for free. Again, that zippercruiter.com slash rogan. zipper cruder the smartest way to hire oh well how's the article in 2010 if the accents in 2013 uh well the article came out first and exposed McCristo oh oh the rolling stone article I thought the article did on the accident if you actually do reading about Tesla

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See, that's the thing, Joe. That's why I love history so much, because once you find out that this world is a circle, you can never get lost, like, run, you can look at certain things, and it'll tell you what's going to happen later, like, with amazing accuracy, like, Yeah, like, that's how I knew that things like what you showed me with Hastings, that those were real things. It's not, they've always been real. It's everybody who has ever been killed in one of those ways. There was a financial benefit to it. It was obvious. It was easy. You know where it came from. It's just that they do a good job. But how is that difficult if that's your job? Like they do this. They do this really well. They do it worldwide.

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Also, this guy fucked with the worst person you could fuck with. A high ranking beloved general who's in charge of train killers who love him. And you don't think he could put one of those dudes on you with a coffee meeting. Just have a sit down and Starbucks with no phones on you. And let me explain what's going on.

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A shadow government is no more difficult than a government.

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And so, not like that, you don't have to get elected. It's even better.

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Even nicer.

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They stay for a long time. I mean, think about Jay Edgar Hoover. How long did that motherfucker stay in power for? He was running the FBI wearing a dress for three years.

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Because of what you just discussed. Yeah. Like, there are that. That's why I can speak with impunity about the Illuminati because I know who you would have to be in order for what I'm saying to bother you. Number one. Number two, I know your big secret. I know that you're not the illuminati. I am. So you can't be illuminated, you're too dark. But the difficulty is getting people to believe something that they don't want to believe. And in each of these cases, this is where the money is. If you're just a capitalist, it is find something establish a value for it and make sure that that includes your profit and make sure people really wanted. Right. It's very fundamental.

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Also, if you run in corporations and you're making billions of dollars, you can get bored.

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What's the ultimate game? The ultimate game is to run the whole world. Do you know what the ultimate game is cat? I do. We have an overpopulation problem cat.

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Yeah. It's an overpopulation problem. Right. And we're gonna

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We're going to be able to mitigate that with vaccines. We're going to be able to mitigate that with healthcare. We're going to figure that out. We're going to get rid of a bunch of people.

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We used to be able to do it with neglect and it was called Nature's Way. Right. You know, like, like, whatever was ailing you, it wasn't ailing everybody in the world. The Chinese didn't have it because they had 6,000 or 6,000 years ago and knew what each one did and, you know, like,

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You know, people are very resistant to that, but they don't realize that almost all pharmaceutical drugs come from plants.

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You can't be against the original.

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Yeah, it's ridiculous. That's the government propaganda working on you. That's like when they remember when they had marin all, when they were making weed illegal, and the people were going through cancer, and their doctors were prescribed in weed for chemotherapy, so they gave a marin all. Do you remember that shit? It's like a synthetic version of weed that's terrible.

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But Terrible is subjective to nothing. So they have this oil-like cannabis that is for people having seizures. And it's the only thing that will stop a seizure. Yeah, it's incredible. But here's the thing. The fact that there is a God is the biggest conversation worldwide but the truth of the matter is there is more reason for you to believe there is a God than there is for you to not like the way that things interact like if we're just talking about marijuana or alcohol or whatever that is you have to understand that this thing serves no other purpose Then to bring pleasure to this small group of beings. And the fact that it already was set up to do that. The fact that it was already set up on this planet for there to be medicines for us to find and utilize it. he said I'm saying it's like it's not like oh yeah so he made a cow no to make a cow it means you had to also have made grass and it means you would have had to have invented a whole new eating system for this animal which was good and that means you would you would then have to give them three stomachs to be able to and you would have to have known that he was gonna then admit a gas that was gonna be necessary on the planet like Like none of these things are right. The fact that everything goes together is how you know.

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It's pretty wild. And every time we step in and fuck with it, it goes, hey, war. Right. Every time human beings do it.

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Predictably, hey, why? Hey, war. Right. But that's part of the benefits of free will. Is you really can jump into a volcano, dude? Don't. Hey, why? You really can't.

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I mean, think about what we've done to wildlife. The craziest thing in this country, especially right here, is pigs. Right, wild pigs are everywhere, and there's so many of them. I went to a friend of mine's farm, or was like a ranch to hunt wild pigs, and you just hear them, like, like, Lord of the Rings characters and the delicious things. And there's 150 of them near you 250 of them thousands on the ranch. They're all over the place and they have three litters a year and they start having litters when there's six months old. They just pump out piglets. Let's go.

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You can tell they're not delicious. They are delicious. Oh, well, then here we go then. We don't really have a problem then. Right.

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No, we have a we need to eat pigs problem.

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No, we need to be sending this off somewhere. Yes, someone who does.

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Well, definitely we should. That would be an easy way to solve a lot of hunger problems.

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I'm saying we live in a country where we're complaining about food sources. It's a good point.

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These chickens are packing us to death. They're everywhere. I can't even sleep. We have a dear delicious, right?

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Yeah. Have more chickens. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we do have an over-abundance problem for sure. We'll really do. But the big thing is a wild one. It's hard to get them. They're very smart, and they spread out, and they're so fucking many of them. They shoot with helicopters.

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That's wild one. That's right.

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Right. I haven't been invited three times since I moved here. To go shoot pigs out of a helicopter.

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But that's part of the reason that you came to Texas. The freedom.

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That sure.

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Texas is a place of great adventure. Yeah, and people who believe in that. It's really God's country and the right places.

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It is in the right places. I think you're going to have annoying people everywhere you go in this world. But in general, I think the people here over all are nicer, they're friendlier and they're not captured. They're not captured by the ether of Hollywood. They haven't been sucked into the vortex of ideological thinking and just that weirdness of that town. So when you escape that and just be around regular people, you're like, oh, people are all right. I'm just been in the same asylum. You're looking for a girlfriend. You have to be in a place where you're around good people, like normal people.

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That's better for you. You're not trying to say that people that happen to live there are not nice people. There's a lot of nice people there. Which is the thing. hopefully we can agree that the problem is with extremes extreme anything extreme left is as vicious and as as far right yep it's you know the middleness of it all that makes America great and Texas has been front and center of that

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forever. I think a big part of it though is how much does your government control you. Even when things don't even make sense. Like, in California, they made flavored vapes illegal. Can you imagine, yes, strawberry, missed is our number one.

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That was fine, but they let it also hurt black people in that it counted menthol as a flavor and hurt new ports.

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So you can't sell menthol cigarettes in California, right? They have their own cigarettes.

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Why not menthol new ports? It's terrible.

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Why do black people like menthol so much? What's out about? It's a totally different type of cigarette.

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You're gonna get me canceled. Oh, this is very racist this conversation even even though neither of us are Just talking about just saying why do black people like Newport so much and a black person actually getting ready to answer this ah terrible all ends. I don't think it is. Well, I don't think it is either because we have a news.

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It's like if you start asking me about spaghetti, I'm not going to get offended. You start asking me about Italian food, why are Italian people so loud?

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How many people have ever died of poster-related illnesses?

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A lot, Joe. A lot of fatso's out there kicking the bucket bro. That's not because of plastic. They were going to be fat wherever they lived, sir.

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Maybe. That's an ovary. It's an ovary.

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It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary.

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It's an ovary. It's an ovary. It's an ovary Yeah. We have so much starving people aren't addicted to anything and they don't have food related illnesses. Exactly.

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Exactly.

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But back to where we were. Yeah. That's right.

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That's right.

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I just didn't even mention all cigarettes. Oh, that's right. And the answer is... We value strength in products. So there's this whole thing with liquor and malt liquor and the difference between the two and one is richer and stronger. And the more potent version. Right. And that's the people. We tend to go with those products. Things are stronger. That makes sense. Right. Like before things were called concentrate.

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Yeah.

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That's what we appreciate. Hmm, that makes sense. It's concentrated. And the fact that menthol is a natural thing. So, you know, right anybody who is from the south knows about mint plants and, you know, in menthol you always is a skincare product like injuries and shit. Right. Like you appreciate that as a flavor profile as well.

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Right. That makes sense. The mint jewel. It's just telling people they can't have anymore. Who the fuck are you? That's my position.

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Well, and that's a noble position, and we appreciate the fact that you represent that, but the truth of the matter is not pretty. And the truth of the matter is that most people would like to be controlled more by their government if they make it easier. Maybe. Most people are all for government control, as long as they don't have to discuss it.

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Yeah, as long as it works in their favor, they'll give up a lot of rights. And then hopefully the next administration that's... Right, so we're generally worthless at the time. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of people that if the government can make life easy, a lot of people have it hard, right? So the government comes in and says, I'm gonna make it easier for you. But I'm gonna need certain requirements of you. I'm gonna need you to have a digital ID, that digital ID will be attached to social credit score. And we're going to give you universal basic income. You no longer have to worry about food or shelter. You'll be taking care of it. Now you can pursue your dreams.

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Is this the mark of the basis?

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Yeah, I think it is.

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Right. That's the whole thing is it's never been difficult at any point in history. Like we got to do right now that's telling you front and center that I put a computer in somebody's head. Right.

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Like, yeah. And everybody's going, yeah.

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It's the greatest thing in the world, sir. Yeah. But we understood this 15, 20, 25 years ago. We understood while watching Tron or while watching Cyborg. We understood that there was just this small line medically that needed to be crossed in order for us to be able to do these things. Like if you can hook a battery up to an octopus and make it go like this, you're halfway there. Yeah. Why? Because this is a machine, then we have. It's biological machine. Right. And what you understand it? You understand it.

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Yeah. And you could fuck with that machine. You could juice it up. You could fucking get it stronger. Get it smarter.

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This is a lot of things with that machine. This is what the Anonaki said. This is how you know that these are not made up things from people's imagination because everything is too factual. Like like this necklace, right? People online were like, is that Buddhist or that's this or that? It's none of that. Like like I just try to find the answers to things. So our ship wheel, I designed this because this is that thing that you see that all the Anonaki guys that have that look like a rich watch. And they always have it and you're always trying to see what that is. It is a time and it's a compass. It's a timekeeping compass. That's what those. Yeah. So that's what made the carrier. of great importance because he was able to do things that were magical in nature, like, go somewhere and get right back.

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Like, you know what I mean? Like, the thing on the wrist was a compass.

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A timekeeping compass. Yeah. Eight out. Right. You had to believe in things that didn't exist at some point, like, magnetics and distance and probabilities.

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Right.

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Right. That's how, like, If you, if you were to read like thousands of books about people that knew a bunch of shit, like you found, sorry, finding out that it's not really about knowing anything. It's about where to go to get the information. You know what I mean? Yeah. So like when we look at all the ruins all around the world, like we're not seeing ruins of colleges and universities and all of that. We're seeing temples and synagogues and churches and but people don't understand that That's where that information was coming from for that period of time. When we went to these temples, they weren't in there singing and reading from a book. They were in there being taught things that they were able to go put into practice. You see what I'm saying? Like they were being taught our agriculture. You know what I mean? Like they were being taught. Yeah.

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Yeah. And they had some very bizarre knowledge too. They had a detailed knowledge of cosmology. They had a really detailed knowledge of our solar system.

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100% of the writings across the world who ever said anything about space or the universe or what was out there. Why were all of them correct, Joe? It's not even possible. How did they know that Mars was the red planet and why was it a worldwide fact? Planetarily they Saturn had rings like based upon what information because nobody worldwide is disagreeant. Nobody's like, oh, I thought of this, or I, it came to me in a drink. Nobody's saying that anywhere in anybody's civilization. Everybody's civilization says this information came from the people that came from there. Yeah. There are no coincidences.

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Well, they know that Mars used to have an atmosphere.

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Mars used to have an atmosphere used to have water. Something happened to its environment.

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If that's correct then there's a guy right now saying he's gonna put people up there.

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Yep. Exactly.

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It restarted all over again. Fifty years ago there was no water in our whole universe. Let them tell it. Now there's been water almost everywhere. There's water on the moon for crying out.

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Are you familiar with the younger driest impact theory? Do you know what that is? Say what it. Younger dry is impact theory is a theory that earth goes through a cycle of like comet storms every June and every November and most of the time nothing happens but every now and again we get hit we get hit big and they think we got hit big 11,800 plus years ago and that had to restart civilization. And that what you're seeing from like Mesopotamia, all these people, 6,000 years later, they think that is a rebuilding of civilization that was already like just whispers and stories and tales, and then they rebuilt it again, thousands of years later. But if you go back to like 11,800 or 11,000-800 years ago, you're dealing with what we thought were hunter-gatherers, and now we know they weren't. Now we know they built complex stone structures. And the real speculation is they think that the people who built the pyramids built them way earlier than the conventional dating is. I think there's real evidence in the 19,000 to 11,000 years old, easy.

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No people built the pyramid. No people? No.

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SPEAKER_05

34:17 - 34:52

I know people about the pyramids. And if you look around the world, you see certain tale tale things that let you know that advanced machinery was in usage. Look, there. This whole thing where slaves are stronger people is a fallacy. We like to believe that slaves are stronger. Slaves are weaker because they don't eat the right food and they live a terrible life. Your slave population is not smarter and better condition.

SPEAKER_02

34:52 - 35:18

But then last year in Slavery, they stopped thinking that quite a while ago. They think it was actually skilled labor, because the way they were eating, they found what their camps were, where their food was, they ate very good food. So they think they were actually skilled labor, but also probably four skilled labor. But that's probably not the people built it. That's probably the people that were working on it. That's the probably the people that worked in the village, in the city.

SPEAKER_05

35:18 - 36:31

How many companies have done renovations on the White House? None of them have done enough renovation that they can claim it's their White House. So, yes, thousands of years worth of people were there. But that doesn't have anything to do with the building of it. Who do you think built it? Well, understand, we know enough now to understand that this was a complex. This was not. Right. We've been led to believe that This is how much they worshiped their dead bodies. But the evidence doesn't show any of that. Like when you see inside when they have those intricate carvings and paintings and stuff and gold and stuff, you have to remember, this is in a windowless room. Folks, there's no Candles sit, there's no. It's clearly a power plant and built specifically for that location on this planet. What do you think it was powered by? The hot water springs underneath it.

SPEAKER_02

36:31 - 36:40

So it was powered by the hot water springs into put what to what end? How do you know all this, first of all? Is this marijuana talk?

SPEAKER_05

36:40 - 37:13

I don't think so. This is, um, what is your read this? If you follow information about human kind, you find out that in all parts of history, people were coming to this region for their information and their knowledge and their things that were forbidden and there. These were not the highest of human civilization.

SPEAKER_02

37:13 - 37:22

He's not even comparable to anyone else. No more sense. No more sense. No more sense. Yeah. No sense. Right. The Great Pyramid Geez isn't saying.

SPEAKER_05

37:22 - 38:13

Right. Like, it's like, even Tesla says that this is where he came to get the information. But if you follow that information pathway, it leads you to this character called Thoth. Right. And the Emerald tablets of Thoth are literally mind changing and mind blowing just because you understand when this was written and the terminology being used is when was a writ var to accurate for now so I'm sure that here it is Emerald tablet

SPEAKER_02

38:15 - 39:52

also known as the smart, smart-dine tablet or the tabula smart, smart, smart-dinda. Boy, I fucked that up. It's around the interest of just this. Yeah, a cryptic hermetic text. It was highly regarded by Islamic and European alchemist as the foundation of their art, though attributed to the legendary Hellenistic figure Hermes, Tras, Tris McGue, how do you say it, bro? Tris Majestus. The text of the animal tablet first appears in a number of early medieval Arabic sources, the oldest of which dates to the late 8th or early 9th century. It was translated in the Latin several times in the 12th and 13th centuries numerous interpretations and commentaries followed. So what does it say though? The Egyptian God Thoth, okay? It says, beginning in the second century BC onwards, Greek texts attributed to Hermes, a syncretic combination of Greek God Hermes and the Egyptian God Thoth appeared in Greco-Roman Egypt. Those text knows that known as the Hermeticah, our heterogeneous collection of works, that in the modern day era are commonly subdivided into two groups. The technical, hermetica compromising of astrological, medical, botanical, alchemical, and magical writings. And the religio, philosophical, hermetica comprising of mystical, philosophical writings. Holy shit. Is this weed talk, Joseph? No, this is so legit.

SPEAKER_05

39:52 - 39:54

It was so legit, my man.

SPEAKER_02

39:54 - 39:56

So this dude was probably an alien.

SPEAKER_05

39:57 - 40:50

Dude, first of all, there are no probabilities. That's the benefit once you hear it or read it. Is the fact that it's given in first person and that's not possible. The things that are being said are impossible. Enough time has passed though. That is not like that. But I'm gonna read that. He literally says, hey, there's a spaceship on earth and this is where it is. Because if all you care about is information, right? Like that's what you start to see is when you get to everybody's civilization, Asian, Indian, African. When you get to the crux of their information, nobody's disagreeing with anybody.

SPEAKER_02

40:50 - 41:03

Right? If you figured out how the fuck they did it, If there was any logical explanation that people could have done it, I would be on board.

SPEAKER_01

41:03 - 41:05

I'd be like, no, okay.

SPEAKER_05

41:06 - 41:09

But there aren't any people saying that.

SPEAKER_02

41:09 - 41:33

Human beings can, it's possible if you had an app power and yet an of engineering and mathematics that you could figure out how to design and construct the pyramid. Yes. But then the logistical problem of getting the stones from hundreds of miles away, massive, massive, several ton up to 80 ton stones. Joe. That's crazy. If you even miles away, some of them.

SPEAKER_05

41:33 - 41:39

Even if you could do it, let me ask you this. Would you build it on sand?

SPEAKER_02

41:39 - 41:46

I don't think it was originally sand. So that's the thing. Right. This was a fertile valley. Yeah, it was. Right. That was a valley.

SPEAKER_05

41:46 - 41:52

That was a rich and electric and Wi-Fi. And they had all of that.

SPEAKER_02

41:52 - 41:57

They probably did. And that's probably where the younger draw is impact, here it comes in.

SPEAKER_05

41:57 - 42:13

The greatest trick is to make us believe that people back then were a drummer and were smarter. Right. And that whole thing is a fallacy. Yeah, that's definitely not real. But it's worth it for us to believe that.

SPEAKER_02

42:13 - 42:23

I think we are the the children of the survivors of some great catastrophe. And I think that's why every single... Not everybody. A typical scholar.

SPEAKER_05

42:24 - 42:25

Not everybody, some people.

SPEAKER_02

42:25 - 42:54

What do you mean? Are that? Some people with a survivors? Right. Well, I mean, most human beings probably got wiped out in common storms. And I think we probably got, there's been ports in history that they know of, where human beings got down to like 7,000 people. Hold this I think they use genetics and they backtrace and they try to find individuals that were capable of having ex amount of children. I wonder how they do the calculations. It's a good question.

SPEAKER_05

42:54 - 43:25

The things that Holly was getting in and in writing that have attracted our attention worldwide were all based on some truth. So all the stories of Hobbits have been successful in all of their genres. Why? Because they existed. Like, like, we now know that they were whole pick-me groups and that, you know, we understand that that's what the seven doors was.

SPEAKER_02

43:25 - 43:41

Yeah. Like that island of Flora's man that they found. They literally call it a Hobbit. It was like a three foot tall person. There was covered in hair, smaller head than us, used tools.

SPEAKER_05

43:41 - 44:10

As a pre-teen, I knew that Atlantis really existed, just because of how it was spoken of, off-handedly. Just that it was no early writings. Well, not just mentioned. But mentioned off-handedly, like you would, a place that's just a landmark.

SPEAKER_02

44:10 - 44:14

Right. We landed in New York before we went to Montreal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

44:14 - 44:21

We were in Austin by Dallas. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

44:21 - 45:37

Yeah. Have you ever seen the, the guy that thinks that they found the spot in Africa? What is that, uh, that the ring called? The Jimmy Corsetti is he's on this. This dude is an expert in this shit. He's an expert in ancient catastrophes and the remnants and the evidence it shows that these civilizations existed and something happened. And he's focused on this one area in Africa. that he believes is Atlantis and he says it has all the hallmark characteristics and there's all the evidence of massive water erosion surrounding the area. that at one point in time, it's very likely that this area got hit with a massive flood and it matches all the characteristics of Atlantis. When you see it, when you see the way the concentric circles of rings, like try explaining this, you're going to see it. Try explaining this through a natural phenomenon that doesn't exist anywhere around it. Concentric circles? That is near what used to be water. And there's heavy water erosion marks all around it that indicate massive amounts of quick flowing water in a very short period of time.

SPEAKER_01

45:37 - 45:43

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

45:43 - 46:16

That's it. Look at that thing. Bro, are you fucking kidding me? The reshot structure. That's it. The reshot structure. I mean, are you fucking kidding me? You can see the... Now imagine if that was this massive city of concentric circles and walls and a thriving population, and then it gets hit with this water, you can see the water erosion all over the place. The whole thing looks like it's washed out, see? Yeah. It looks like it was washed out because it was.

SPEAKER_01

46:16 - 46:18

Right. And that's salt, I believe.

SPEAKER_02

46:18 - 46:20

But that was the salt there.

SPEAKER_05

46:20 - 49:22

That's the other thing. Between this and the garden of Eden locations, like these are the two. These are two of the great landmarks in human history. Where's the garden of Eden? Well, when you read the stories, right, the thing that strikes you is that it's so specific, like it says things in talking about the Garden of Eden that way to minute. If I can't find what you're talking about, this isn't even real. You see, I'm saying like where the Garden of Eden was, there's, I think, four rivers that come from it. And then it names two of them. Like, I don't want to be specific, because at least he's going to bring it up. But it's like the Nile and the Your Fratees, right? So you know two of them. And it's saying, you know, where the four meet this is where it is. And yeah, my whole life, I was like, This is really weird because at one period of time we're thinking no flood happens is so many things that have lined up from these great religious books where we can see that no something happened to here something happened and these are stories of people telling stories that have been told to them for about a thousand years but this is why right and this is why they were told and that's what you that's a difference between those of us that want to know the world's mysteries and conspiracy theorists like there's nothing to a conspiracy theorist because you're not producing what you're using but these world mysteries like that's harder to do a lie is not something that people are going to repeat for generations or generations It's being repeated like that because people have a reason to believe it, to be true. And as you go through history, you see that those are the stories that we still talk about, but they're still valid. They were writing that the African dog-on tribe is like Like, like, they're like the serious stars just like they're saying very specific things. And for hundreds of years we're going, you guys are idiots. You don't know what you're talking about, right? Like somebody will have a fake star story. Right. You see? Right. And now we get to the point where we can actually see what they were talking about.

SPEAKER_00

49:22 - 49:25

What if we find out that we're aliens?

SPEAKER_02

49:25 - 49:33

That we were just dropped off here, along as the Adam and Eve story is the story of the place where they created us.

SPEAKER_05

49:33 - 49:41

I'm sure we're the only people in the universe that think like that. You think so?

SPEAKER_01

49:41 - 49:41

Why do you think that?

SPEAKER_05

49:47 - 50:35

No portion of humankind's story differs from that. It's all creation story. If you go, that's why NASA and Space Force are not more forthcoming because the further you get in space, the more obvious shit is. Once you're up there and you're looking down, this shit doesn't look like there is no God. It looks like you're in the middle of somebody's workshop and they just show you every single way that every star can be made. Every single way a planet can be made. Every way that a black hole can be a galaxy, a universe, and then show you the best of the best.

SPEAKER_02

50:39 - 50:50

It's the spot. I mean in our solar system, we're the best neighborhood that's ever existed. They all suck every other planet sucks.

SPEAKER_05

50:53 - 51:20

where rudimentary enough that we still require environmental help right until you get the chip once you get the chip point it would be like it would be like saying people that um didn't learn how to ride horses they were slow like they couldn't run fast enough so they got horses right No, I didn't have anything to do with that. Better is better.

SPEAKER_02

51:20 - 51:22

That's really what it's going to be. Better is better.

SPEAKER_05

51:22 - 51:32

We're all going to integrate. We would have told you 30 years ago that we would need a space force unless we would have there and found something.

SPEAKER_02

51:32 - 51:48

I think the space force, the idea is that they're worried about not an idea. Someone else being in space first with weapons flying around. You mean us? Yeah. Well, we can do it. They can do it. That's the thing. Who is that? Whoever it is. No. China.

SPEAKER_05

51:48 - 51:51

There's only humankind and alien.

SPEAKER_02

51:51 - 52:04

Oh, I agree. Right. The problem is, this is what we really need. We really need this neural link to lock us all together. So everybody could read everybody's mind. That's what's going to happen. And then there's going to be no more leaders. There's going to be no more governments.

SPEAKER_05

52:04 - 52:07

You're being going to be no more controversial right now.

SPEAKER_04

52:07 - 52:08

Okay. It's a look.

SPEAKER_05

52:08 - 52:50

That that is better. That exists already. So just understand that the worldwide government is way smarter than we give them credit for because they have us believe in they own do nothing. But the truth is like, there's no such thing as the government is in bed with the internet. No, the internet is a government installation that they allowed the world to use for free. so that they could have their information. willingly because you're on it.

SPEAKER_02

52:50 - 53:14

That's what it became. But I think that's what it was to come. You think so? Yes. The progression of technology oftentimes leads itself to like even cell phones. At first, it was Michael Douglas walking on the beach and Wall Street looking amazing with that brick carrying that big brick. Look at that guy. He's got a phone with no cord. He's out on the beach. This isn't saying to everybody having a phone.

SPEAKER_05

53:15 - 53:29

But not to everybody because those in the ham radio community and people with the CBs they didn't feel like that was cutting edge because it really wasn't like It's still cutting edge.

SPEAKER_02

53:29 - 53:33

This is around the device. It's a leap in technology.

SPEAKER_05

53:33 - 54:19

Here's the thing, when you look at all of our inventions, that's when you know that these space encounters were real. Because we only have advancement in a couple of industries in the world. And everything else is nothing. So like the microwave that they had, 30 years ago it it looks the same as the same microwave now why because it wasn't it was done as a military thing it was supposed to be a weapon and then they found out you know he's up food and they put a door on it and so it hasn't changed at all because invention is very difficult and um

SPEAKER_02

54:21 - 54:25

Do you subscribe to the idea that we get back engineered?

SPEAKER_05

54:25 - 54:33

Absolutely. That's why those leaps. We don't see those leaps in anything else is my point. Like, like.

SPEAKER_02

54:33 - 54:43

Yeah. There's no real speculation about the creation of a bunch of different things that came out of Roswell, fiber optics.

SPEAKER_05

54:43 - 55:36

Right. But remember, 20 years ago, 15 years ago this is crazy talk crazy but but but it's not like it's at the point at at this point like Area 51 would have to be doing something. There were definitely doing something. And nobody's telling a differing story as to what it is. Right. Like people have great imaginations all through history. They could make up something. The only damning information is if you read 3,000 accounts of these entities and realize, wait a minute. Why is everybody describe in the same couple of beings? There's no outliers.

SPEAKER_02

55:36 - 55:43

There's like three different things they describe. They said that they documented 8 to 12. We're not talking about

SPEAKER_05

55:47 - 55:53

English-speaking people. We're talking about world wide, right? That's what is striking.

SPEAKER_02

55:53 - 56:02

Indigenous people in Australia drew them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

56:02 - 56:16

Nobody's saying anything outlandish. And that's what you get to when you go religiously or... Well, the only thing is a bit of a religion to a lot of folks.

SPEAKER_02

56:17 - 56:18

They don't want to believe it.

SPEAKER_05

56:18 - 56:34

It's a necessary component. Yeah. Whatever religion you're a part of at some point, it says you're a contractor. That there was a fight in heaven. Man, you know, this happened in that happened.

SPEAKER_02

56:34 - 56:35

Yep.

SPEAKER_05

56:35 - 57:46

Every single one of them. Everyone without nobody's telling a different story. Everybody's telling the same stories. Like, that's how you know that vagina and gold are universal things because in everybody's story, none of these other worldly interests entities had any interest in anything other than women. and gold right pussy or gold like because and and you understand that now when you start learning about what's in space because you can see that any element or any commodity that we sell here is abundant in space like trash You know, they found one media that was worth all the money on earth. Yeah. 770 billion. No, it was a trillion. It was another number. It's a crazy number. Right. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

57:46 - 58:11

Wow. Yeah, they know that there's spots in space that have abundant minerals that are very valuable. And the thing about the Samarion story, the Samarion tech story, rail-astory, I mean, make everyone a billionaire on this earth. Everyone would be a billionaire. But every person would earn several billion dollars.

SPEAKER_05

58:11 - 58:23

So it sounds joky, right? But understand somebody got this contract. Like they broke this up into several worldwide contracts. Like 10,000 quadrillion.

SPEAKER_02

58:23 - 58:34

It's just there. But here's the thing. If you got that much gold, it's gold valuable anymore. It's one of the things about gold is that there's not that much of it. You know, if you look at, you ever seen the number of those numbers?

SPEAKER_05

58:34 - 59:03

That's not necessary in capitalism. They showed us that with diamonds. That's true. It is about the perception of things. And if I buy up all of something, it is rare now. Immediately. Right. Just because I have control of all of them. Right. And that is worth killing Tesla over. And that's why the people I still in business and Hollywood because everything's a commodity.

SPEAKER_02

59:03 - 01:00:04

Did you ever read, you ever heard a Zechariah's Hitchin? Zechariah's Hitchin was a biblical scholar, who he deciphered the Sumerian texts, and he's got an expert in language, and when he deciphered, he might not have been a biblical scholar, might have just been a language expert. But either way, he deciphered these texts, wrote these books about the real meaning behind everything they were saying. And he said that the reason why we are so fascinated with gold is that the Anonaki literally would have us mind gold for them because they needed to protect their atmosphere. So what they would do is take gold, which is a very rare in what it does. What gold can do is you take a little piece of gold like this big and coat this entire table. It's real weird. Right. So very, and you could turn to a fine dust, and they suspended this fine dust in their atmosphere to protect them from a degrading atmosphere, because they were getting global warming or whatever.

SPEAKER_05

01:00:04 - 01:01:13

Everybody that was... He wrote about this in the 70s. It doesn't matter because everybody in Egypt knew it. Like this is where the alchemy I'm, yeah, it's where it all originated. Right. Like, we don't even know what they knew. None of those people are saying, hey, I came up with this shit. They're saying somebody gave it to us. Somebody who came from this place here came and told us that this is how this goes and this is what this is worth. Because I'm saying, the people that were being abused in the minds going to get the diamonds, It wasn't like that for them. It was just them getting these rocks. It was crazy guys going to pay a day's wages for us to get the rocks. Let's gather them. You know, this is. But when you follow back, it's all about the information and at the top of it. Nobody's trying to claim it. Like nobody's saying right, I went to this.

SPEAKER_02

01:01:13 - 01:01:43

Yeah, that is wild. If imagine this, that's why we're getting most of our shit. Back-engineered stuff they leave for us. We have to figure it out, sort through it. The people that have alien technology, the people that do have an alien craft that they work on, what a weird reality you must live in. The whole rest of the world's got guessing. And you got this thing in front of you and you're like, oh, this is real.

SPEAKER_05

01:01:43 - 01:01:53

You have one. That's how everybody in space for us who have to feel right. Right, they must. How many of you think see shit? I'm saying how do you think Elon Musk really feels?

SPEAKER_01

01:01:53 - 01:01:55

Like, I don't think he's going to tell you.

SPEAKER_05

01:01:55 - 01:02:02

No, I'm saying in his head, can he still have a superhero or is he one of them?

SPEAKER_02

01:02:02 - 01:02:11

You know he's one of them, like... If you're the richest dude in the world and you're also a super genius, how the fuck do you stop yourself from thinking you're a superhero? That's the big question.

SPEAKER_05

01:02:12 - 01:03:57

No, it's not like that. No? No. It doesn't have super hero side effects to it. I mean, you would probably think. Like, the more you know, the more you know how little you know. That's true. There's not a, you know what I mean? And nobody has ownership of information. That's why reading books moves civilization because like when I when I say like you know I read three of the books we were like yeah right but you know every everything in life is about the environment it was grown in the peachy dish right so if I told you that From the time I was eight to the time I was 12. I never celebrated any birthdays. I never went to a birthday party. I never had a Thanksgiving, a Christmas. I never trick or treated. I wasn't allowed to watch movies. And I wasn't allowed to watch TV. All I could do was read. If I told you that, then you would understand that for eight hours a day. I got eight hours and I can read and I love to read and so I'm reading books that are 250 to 100 pages and it takes me about an hour to read you one. So yeah, I'm reading 15 pages a day. Yeah, like all I'm doing is reading because that's what so I'm checking out 20 books. The limit at the library is 20 books at one time. So I'm going Monday, Wednesday and Friday just because this is my thing like.

SPEAKER_02

01:03:57 - 01:03:58

So you're getting 60 books a week?

SPEAKER_05

01:03:59 - 01:04:42

have minimum because really yeah because I'm reading more than that because I still have religious books that I have to read so understand this is pretty internet for right so understand that in reading one thing that I'm reading right right this one thing that I'm reading is also requiring me to have this appendix book that is the source book that it's telling me is getting these things from and so I've got four books open at a time just for this one book like um

SPEAKER_02

01:04:46 - 01:07:11

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SPEAKER_05

01:07:12 - 01:08:43

But yeah, so first, I guess between eight and 12, I'm only, I can read classics and nine fiction. So I'm saying no novels or anything like that, I'm just, reading the like time life has like 1800 of these individual books on all subjects of the world and so you just went most of your time reading not most all of it all of your time reading and then when did that was my thing because like I was able to be in each of these stories. You follow what I'm saying? And I was getting so much information. Like half of those, I probably had to write a one page report on after. But yeah, that was my whole thing. The numbers aren't even really accurate because I read more than that because like sometimes I would read something and I wouldn't get it. Like there was this classic book called Little Women that I probably read that four times because I just didn't I didn't understand it and I knew it was a classic but I never read it.

SPEAKER_02

01:08:43 - 01:08:43

What's it about?

SPEAKER_05

01:08:46 - 01:08:49

And you read a gym? Some little women.

SPEAKER_04

01:08:49 - 01:08:52

I just watched the episode of Kirby where they're talking about it.

SPEAKER_02

01:08:52 - 01:08:54

What is the story?

SPEAKER_04

01:08:54 - 01:08:56

Well, I, here's the thing.

SPEAKER_05

01:08:56 - 01:10:17

Yeah, right, right, like four sisters think that. Okay, but they, they have money and a an incredible circumstance but the thing was I didn't have any sisters so I didn't have anything to pull from and I didn't have women in my life like that so yeah a lot of things I would have to read multiple times for me to get right to try to think how they thought right well yeah like even like um The three musketeers, like I probably read it three times because, you know, it was so, I read it like the first time to read it. But then the next time I had to read it again because these characters were really distinct characters. And I could figure out, wait a minute, did this happen really in history or was somebody just this good at telling this story of the, you know, but, um, But it's things like that that leads you to the night's Templar story, which leads you to, you know, seeing how things through history have remained, you know what I mean? Like, um, all of that you get from the books.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:17 - 01:10:30

Well, history to me has always been the most fascinating thing because you can't quite imagine it. You're trying to imagine, you're piecing it together, listen to these stories and just sit back and go, what the fuck was that like? Right.

SPEAKER_05

01:10:30 - 01:10:34

And what is what we create every day? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:10:34 - 01:10:53

Yeah. Right. Yeah. We're creating the futures version of what the fuck was that like. This place right here freaks me out the most, because this area, specifically this area of Texas, the Hill Country, was just all Native Americans forever. There's thousands of arrowheads, man. Here's the thing.

SPEAKER_05

01:10:53 - 01:11:41

I found this on his ranch. None of those people, when we say those people, none of them pick the bad place ever. No. That's when you understand that there's a grid. Because nobody's holy people. pick bad spots. Everybody understood certain things about the area and long before they had x-ray machines. If you just went by that in the whole world, you would start to understand. the true power of the Vatican and the fact that certain things are based on real shit like the Ark of the Covenant and some spooky little stories.

SPEAKER_02

01:11:41 - 01:11:46

What do you think is things like a nuclear generator or something like that? We think it is.

SPEAKER_05

01:11:47 - 01:12:07

Whatever the nucleus is, that would literally power something that would have initially been in the pyramids would also have been in the arc of the covenant which would be the same thing or something that you can't fuck with and it's radioactive and it's very powerful to be.

SPEAKER_00

01:12:07 - 01:12:08

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

01:12:08 - 01:12:17

Nobody's telling any crazy stories, my man, not globally. No. No. Everything. Everything.

SPEAKER_02

01:12:17 - 01:12:37

Well, it gets crazy every year. It gets less crazy every year. Yeah. 20 years ago talking about any of this stuff was straight up nonsense. Yes. But now people are like, hold on. That's probably what disclosure actually looks like. It looks like a slow, trickle integration into the zeitgeist, the point where it's just normal.

SPEAKER_05

01:12:37 - 01:12:51

Because a lot of times they're right. You know, a lot of times it turns out that they were right that, you know, we couldn't at all people because they would have went, and this would have happened and that would have happened. And you can start to see that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:12:51 - 01:13:05

That's why when you think about what what people have always believed, that's why angels and devils freak me out. Because no one wants to believe

SPEAKER_00

01:13:07 - 01:13:10

that there's a Satan, that there's a devil.

SPEAKER_05

01:13:10 - 01:13:12

You're leaving an astronaut, right?

SPEAKER_00

01:13:12 - 01:13:25

Yeah. Okay. But people have always said there is. You mean a bad and a good? Yeah, not just a bad and a good, but an actual evil malevolent force. No, just start with bad and yes.

SPEAKER_05

01:13:25 - 01:13:34

Okay. So if we started bad and good, then we understand what must be at the extremes of that. Nobody's telling a different story.

SPEAKER_02

01:13:34 - 01:13:41

And then there's a concept of actual entities. Yes. Actual demonic entities that do exist.

SPEAKER_05

01:13:41 - 01:13:50

Well, I'm saying you're DNA is either fused or it's not. If it is, it requires a fuser.

SPEAKER_00

01:13:50 - 01:13:51

Mm.

SPEAKER_05

01:13:51 - 01:13:53

That's how.

SPEAKER_00

01:13:53 - 01:14:00

A fuser. Right. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_05

01:14:00 - 01:14:14

I'm saying. If they tell you that certain parts of your DNA are fused, that requires a fuser. Do I say that right?

SPEAKER_01

01:14:14 - 01:14:15

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02

01:14:15 - 01:14:24

I see what you're saying. The structure to us and everything, all of it, does seem remarkable.

SPEAKER_05

01:14:27 - 01:14:41

in a no mistakes type of way. Yeah. In a synchronicic sort of way, which flies in the face of the accidental big bang nothing from nothing way of thinking and it always has been.

SPEAKER_02

01:14:42 - 01:15:11

Well, that's what I think like in the beginning there was light when they talk about that. If you were going to describe the beginning of the universe, even if you're describing the big bang, which there's a lot of speculation that that wasn't necessarily the beginning, that there might be a continuous cycle of these events happening over and over again. But if you were talking about a creation story, you would say in the beginning there was light, because there was, this fucking enormous amount of light, it created the entire universe.

SPEAKER_05

01:15:12 - 01:15:34

Literally. Literally. Right. I think which is all it says. And here's like whatever they say that hell or hate is is and any of these religions worldwide. It is the perfect description for what a black hole is in real life.

SPEAKER_00

01:15:34 - 01:15:37

It is. You fall through forever.

SPEAKER_05

01:15:37 - 01:16:10

A bottomless pit. Yeah. or time doesn't exist, where time does not exist, where you don't die, but you don't actually, where the information, and it eats stars. But, but it eats stars and galaxies, all that, right? But, but we can have multiple of them. And they'll be okay. That's the flex.

SPEAKER_02

01:16:10 - 01:16:14

Yeah. Yeah. We'll flex. Right. It's like if you live in Africa, you're going to do it line.

SPEAKER_05

01:16:14 - 01:16:17

What's this thing? Oh, it kills everything. Everything what? Everything attaches.

SPEAKER_02

01:16:17 - 01:16:22

Everything, everything, everything. It's going to get it eventually, but not now. What do you mean you have two of them?

SPEAKER_00

01:16:25 - 01:16:27

They find them floating around.

SPEAKER_05

01:16:27 - 01:16:29

They find them floating around.

SPEAKER_02

01:16:29 - 01:16:53

Right. I mean, they noticed them. Yeah. They noticed that they're out there floating around. Yeah. They found one that's so fucking big. We did this thing. We played a video of how small the earth is in comparison to the sun. How small the sun is in comparison to giant stars. And how small giant stars are into the most massive supermassive black hole that they know currently. It's bananas.

SPEAKER_05

01:16:53 - 01:17:03

Our perfect habitat is so perfect that anyone universally with sense would say, who? Location, location.

SPEAKER_02

01:17:06 - 01:17:07

I'd be greatest real estate agent ever.

SPEAKER_05

01:17:07 - 01:17:11

If the moon are the sun, we're further back lead. We'd be fucked.

SPEAKER_02

01:17:11 - 01:17:13

Yeah, or closer.

SPEAKER_05

01:17:13 - 01:17:35

Like, like, the whole thing is, you know, someone later saying, do you think Beverly Hills was, I think this was an area they built on purpose? Yeah. Oh, don't let me.

SPEAKER_02

01:17:36 - 01:17:46

Oh, just imagine if the moon was slightly smaller. Just imagine. Look, imagine if the earth was slightly further away from the sun.

SPEAKER_05

01:17:46 - 01:18:00

They know that it's to the point where some of it might have been artificially done and they're aware of that. They're aware of the truth.

SPEAKER_00

01:18:02 - 01:18:08

So the specific sense of the moon. Right. That's a wild theory.

SPEAKER_05

01:18:08 - 01:18:34

Well, some of it's not theory like I was I was on that subject as a teenager, but as a grown person is when the thing happened where they hid it with the mistletoe ring like a bell, like certain things are.

SPEAKER_02

01:18:34 - 01:18:35

What was the explanation for that?

SPEAKER_05

01:18:36 - 01:19:34

because it did have some sort of a crazy like the question is who will offer explanation right because it wasn't like that they didn't just do it once like all accounts say it rang like a bell for hours and hours and hours imagine if that's a feature for stable planet that they put there Well, that's how Xbox works, you know, or PlayStation. I'm an Xbox guy, but I'm saying, you know, you have your gaming system, and it just requires that in your Wi-Fi, nearby, and bam. You know, great things happen. And so many of our things globally. We come by understanding that in the magnetic and dynamics and things that really work.

SPEAKER_02

01:19:34 - 01:20:02

There's a lot of people that think that whatever we're seeing isn't just from another planet but from another dimension that they're dimensional travelers. that they have access to places that we don't have access to. This is a two-primitive. We can't wrap our head around it. As a civilization, we haven't reached the ability to transcend, but that they can, and that they're here all the time.

SPEAKER_05

01:20:02 - 01:20:12

Well, the way we look at it, you know, we're the greatest spot in the universe, but the travelers don't lead us to believe that.

SPEAKER_02

01:20:14 - 01:20:33

Well, there's always competition. There's always going to be a greater civilization than the one previous. There's always going to be more. There's going to be more. People are going to innovate to the point where they're going to make spacecrafts. That means these people are competing with each other. These things, whatever they are, they're still. They must be in some sort of competition. There must be something that motivates them.

SPEAKER_05

01:20:34 - 01:21:08

And so, right, but at that level, competition is healthy and there are no unhealthy components. Well, no, not hopefully definitely. Once we're all building space, personal space, contraptions for ourselves, we're going to push one another. It's not just, We're going to all want the best one. Yeah. And we're going to insist that that be the case, just like we do with cars.

SPEAKER_02

01:21:08 - 01:22:32

Well, I said, hopefully what I mean is that like, hopefully they will be like healthy, friendly competition. That's what motivates them. What's not hopeful is that they could be robotic, emotionless things that have transcended biological needs and that they just have a function that function is seeding intelligent life in the universe and establishing, just like you would be a farmer and you would go out and leave hay for the animals. Yeah, they are primitive, but we're always moving into some more and more complex direction. Technologically, it seems like that's never going to stop. And the only thing that makes sense to me is that we're doing something because that's like what we're literally designed to do. We have all these things that sort of motivate people and greed and lust and curiosity, but what we're doing is we're always making better things. Yeah, constantly making better things, which would lead ultimately to the creation of a higher life form, some more intelligent emotionless being. And that's the scary thought, is that all this life out there is life that was created by biological creatures, who had these desires and needs that ultimately led to them making a better version of them. And then that is like the butterfly that comes out of the cocoon.

SPEAKER_05

01:22:33 - 01:22:38

As soon as we put people in space, we became aliens that day, right?

SPEAKER_01

01:22:38 - 01:22:40

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

01:22:40 - 01:22:42

A lot of things are perspective.

SPEAKER_02

01:22:42 - 01:22:48

That's true. I mean, you could say you're a camper, but you're really only going to tent your yard. You're still kind of camping.

SPEAKER_05

01:22:48 - 01:22:55

Well, but that's what I'm saying. Our guy has put a date on the Mars colonization, though, right?

SPEAKER_02

01:22:56 - 01:23:08

Yeah, but he's also put a date on the roadster when the Tesla roadsters coming out that motherfucker's never gonna see the light day. What is that car coming out? No, because that car is supposed to be out for years.

SPEAKER_01

01:23:08 - 01:23:09

Yeah, that's got to it three years ago.

SPEAKER_05

01:23:09 - 01:23:20

That's got this part of being a billion there. Sure. It's not worth putting out something that's not right. It doesn't matter how bad it's wanted.

SPEAKER_02

01:23:20 - 01:23:37

Well, he actually explained that. He said it was meant in manufacturing, it's insanely difficult. The way he explained it, you know, you don't consider it because of, you know, people just manufacture things. It's normal. But he was like the process of manufacturing, especially like a car, an electric car, insanely difficult.

SPEAKER_05

01:23:37 - 01:23:44

He had a harder time doing that cyber truck than he did. Yeah, based stuff.

SPEAKER_02

01:23:44 - 01:24:08

Cyberjoy's hard. What's all folded steel? It's this fucking massive 7,000 plus pound folded steel truck that goes zero to 60 and three seconds and it looks like it's from the future. It looks like if you're on the hottest thing on my. It's crazy. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like the most features to car ever. Right.

SPEAKER_05

01:24:10 - 01:24:13

Yeah, but as kids, that's what we do.

SPEAKER_02

01:24:13 - 01:24:20

I don't know when we're going to Mars and I don't know who the fuck's gonna do that. That's a six-month journey and you're just hoping.

SPEAKER_04

01:24:20 - 01:24:24

So what?

SPEAKER_05

01:24:24 - 01:24:29

Several billionaires were talking to getting into a capsule with limited air.

SPEAKER_00

01:24:32 - 01:25:04

to go a long way down well dark way to die just knowing that you just know even if you're a racist here in this all death is dark so what I mean is the last moments must be horrific no more no more horrific than anyone else's I know, but there's something about the choice of being, you know, thousands of feet under the water. No, it's being a billionaire. It's being a billionaire.

SPEAKER_05

01:25:04 - 01:25:10

You're so dies love.

SPEAKER_04

01:25:10 - 01:25:15

I could have done anything.

SPEAKER_05

01:25:15 - 01:25:18

This is what I chose. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_02

01:25:18 - 01:25:44

That depth. That guy could be fishing and Maui right now. Well, a nice cold beer. Hangin' out with his friends. Listen to some music. And steady here. Right. He's like carbon fiber starting to crack.

SPEAKER_01

01:25:44 - 01:25:45

Come on, damn.

SPEAKER_05

01:25:45 - 01:25:47

It's already done at that point.

SPEAKER_02

01:25:47 - 01:26:04

That is happening. They knew those people were dead a long time ago, which is interesting because I didn't know how sophisticated the underwater listening devices are. But they have these supersophisticated underwater listening devices everywhere to make sure they're rushing on.

SPEAKER_01

01:26:04 - 01:26:07

Because Russia will sneak up on them all the fuckers.

SPEAKER_05

01:26:07 - 01:26:19

Russia, Russia, stop talking about people before. None of that is for Russia. You think it's for aliens? None of that is for Russia.

SPEAKER_00

01:26:19 - 01:26:23

You think it's for aliens? That would be the wild shit world.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:23 - 01:26:26

What underwater listening devices do they knew the aliens were under there?

SPEAKER_05

01:26:26 - 01:26:38

Okay. Let's see if this is weed talk or not. So what's one do we know more about? Do we know more about space or do we know more about the ocean? We know more about space.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:38 - 01:26:39

Yeah. Quite a bit more.

SPEAKER_05

01:26:39 - 01:26:52

Okay, so yeah. And part of that is because the ocean is very difficult to penetrate as some point is government.

SPEAKER_02

01:26:54 - 01:27:07

They're hiding things from us. I would hide things for people. I would definitely make it illegal for you to have a submarine. You could have a yacht. Don't get crazy. You can't go underwater. I'm going to know where the fuck you are. If I need to collect taxes.

SPEAKER_05

01:27:07 - 01:27:18

Well, if you're floating around, I can pull up. It was a conspiracy. There he at one point that you know the government got the bases inside of mountains.

SPEAKER_02

01:27:18 - 01:27:42

Right. Well, until they had to expand the boundary behind Area 51 and make Area 51 larger, they never even admitted it existed. It wasn't until the Obama administration that they actually came out and said, Area 51's a real thing, we need more land. Do you ever see the video of Bob Lazar, the guy who used to work there? Have you ever seen that guy?

SPEAKER_05

01:27:42 - 01:27:47

That's how it's Halloween, old Bob Lazar.

SPEAKER_01

01:27:47 - 01:27:50

What do you think about that? Do you think he's telling the truth?

SPEAKER_05

01:27:51 - 01:28:11

Here's the thing, Joe. Just an opinion, but what I find fascinating is the lack of imagination in any of these stories where imagination could apply.

SPEAKER_02

01:28:16 - 01:28:42

Like if someone was bullshit and you see evidence of it. Right? Right? Because that's the thing. If people bullshit, they kind of bullshit about everything. Right? Because I think they're smart enough to trick you. No one's smart enough to come up with one story only their whole life. The whole life, the straight down the middle, square, tell the truth all the time. But one time, they decide to have a wiper of a lie and just fabricate this thing and structure.

SPEAKER_05

01:28:42 - 01:28:53

You're seeing somebody tell you a story. That is the only explanation for certain things that are happening.

SPEAKER_02

01:28:53 - 01:29:06

Especially he tells you a story and then you have independent people who also used to work for the government now becoming whistleblowers and saying there's a crashed retrieval program.

SPEAKER_05

01:29:06 - 01:29:33

Crashed UFO retrieval program. It goes back to what I'm saying, Joe, these are the, this is how you say this without getting canceled. You do think they're doing something, don't you? We want to believe nobody's doing nothing like, no, no, we're doing stuff. They're doing something. They're just not telling us. That's part of it though, right?

SPEAKER_02

01:29:33 - 01:29:41

You know what the people involved in the retrieval call the vehicles? They call them donations.

SPEAKER_05

01:29:41 - 01:29:42

Right. Well, because

SPEAKER_02

01:29:44 - 01:29:50

That's what they think they are. They think that the limited times of these crafts have shown themselves.

SPEAKER_05

01:29:50 - 01:30:52

You didn't, you as the driver or the occupant didn't mean for that to be your destination. And you don't take anything. You only give, therefore, that's why it's known as a donation. Because it's like, is what you would say if one of those meteors that we were talking about if one just decides of a refrigerator landed in your backyard like a billion dollars can land in your backyard easy peasy or obliterate an entire city and send everybody back to Stone Age that's the wildest one Right, but it's not that wild if you look at the moon. Right. The moon shows you the evidence. And that's a part of it. Right. Like, if we could just look at it, it's just filled with holes.

SPEAKER_02

01:30:52 - 01:30:57

Right. Big fucking craters all over. You can see what the naked are.

SPEAKER_05

01:30:57 - 01:31:09

Well, I'm saying most of the people that are in America and drive and urban settings know what pot holes are. And so, you know, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_02

01:31:10 - 01:31:24

Yeah. This is a weird time where people are just starting to pay attention to so many of these subjects. And so many of these, like, are we alone? Have there been advanced civilizations before?

SPEAKER_05

01:31:24 - 01:31:30

How did we become us? It's been a conversation out of all points in time.

SPEAKER_02

01:31:30 - 01:31:34

But more people are having it now without fear of being labeled an idiot.

SPEAKER_05

01:31:35 - 01:32:17

Well, it's because information is now a free commodity, whereas in different points in history, it wasn't like that. It was protected. You didn't make enough money to get access to this information. No matter where you're looking, information is the driving force of almost every war and conflict. It was about the place that you conquered, not only did you conquered them, but you got a chance to know what they knew. And that you found was more important than anything else.

SPEAKER_02

01:32:17 - 01:32:26

And that's... Well, thinking about the people that lived just before they translated the Bible from Latin, how many people couldn't read it?

SPEAKER_05

01:32:28 - 01:32:54

Well, that was part of the experience that you were getting from church was the fact that it was being read to you. Right. You say, I'm saying it not what we have currently where you have the book and they have the book, but you know, this person is literally reciting the word of God to you.

SPEAKER_02

01:32:54 - 01:32:59

Yeah. And he becomes the holder of all that information and the only one.

SPEAKER_05

01:32:59 - 01:33:03

All holders of all information are that.

SPEAKER_02

01:33:03 - 01:33:11

Yep. It's like a human pattern that people follow, even if they just run an internet company, even if they run a social media company, they follow that same pattern.

SPEAKER_05

01:33:13 - 01:34:20

Well, because everything in the universe, everything on this planet, everything that we could look at in the wild life or in the plant life or everything is a formula. Everything is that way and that's one of the science and math. go together with the occult and alchemy and all of these things are based on things like like even the smurf's story, right? The smurf's are based on something? Well, religious people say all you can't watch is Smurf's because it's bad because they have witchcraft and stuff in there. But the whole thing is it's based on this the harmonculus, the idea that you can create a human life form without a mother or a father.

SPEAKER_00

01:34:20 - 01:34:23

So, really? That's what the Smurfs are based on.

SPEAKER_05

01:34:27 - 01:35:50

So, so what what do some artists do you think got together and has Murphy? She was the only female of this Murphy. So, it's a good question. Well, it's not a question in this Murphy. They tell you, they tell you that Gargamel made it's Murphy. But, you know, in somebody's history I don't want to say what race of people or group of people it is but in somebody's history you know there was this humongous thing like a genetically engineered human life form. Yeah. Creature. Right. And so, you know, it's spoken of his in history very sparingly, but, you know, a lot of things in the world are about perception, you know? So we don't believe that there's clones we don't believe that because we don't feel like we have the technology but the truth is if you go body part the body part you'll go uh what if I lost two legs without we get you two legs what about two arms I could get you two arms okay what about the heart yeah I don't know probably what about the what about the like we're already yeah

SPEAKER_02

01:35:51 - 01:36:04

All you'd have to do is make a clone brain dead. Figure out how to engineer a brain dead clone that'll grow organs for you. And then they'll make cloning legal. Because then you'll never have to worry. Hey, Kat, you need a new heart? Guess what?

SPEAKER_05

01:36:04 - 01:36:41

This, sorry, this is the same. This is the same pathway that everybody is on and all of these departments. Like, this is, this is what you like. People spend their life trying to find the cure for cancer. You know what I mean? Yeah. And working as hard as they can every single day. You know what I mean? Unsuccessfully. Those are the type of people that help make the world go around.

SPEAKER_02

01:36:47 - 01:37:34

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SPEAKER_05

01:37:34 - 01:37:51

Yeah, because it's all about information and we'll be so close most of the time. But that's how you can see when we've had influence from something else.

SPEAKER_02

01:37:51 - 01:38:16

Well, I think it's very possible that we have. It's just so frustrating when you want to know, you know, it's one of those things where life would change forever if you had undeniable contact with something. It would just change forever. Your perception of life, you just to drive through the in and out drive through would be different. Everything would be different. Right, but you're taking a shit would be different. New Zealand's out there.

SPEAKER_05

01:38:16 - 01:38:26

You can say that about smelling salts or mushrooms. You can say that about lots of things.

SPEAKER_02

01:38:26 - 01:38:40

Yeah, but about that specifically, that if that if we knew that that was real, because I think it's probably true, but I'd still hold open the path, the possibility that it's all bullshit.

SPEAKER_05

01:38:40 - 01:38:55

Here's the whole thing. No one who has ever seen more space or the universe than you and I has ever seen anything that was bullshit. What do you mean? Then the universe.

SPEAKER_02

01:38:56 - 01:39:14

But what I mean is like fake UFO footage. There's a lot of fake footage. I would want to see if you could see something yourself and I have good friends that have good friends that have had experiences that they say there is no fucking way that that is us that this is something else.

SPEAKER_05

01:39:17 - 01:40:00

Just understand that part of the job in any of these circumstances is to kick up kerfuffle. That's part of it. If you live in Florida, you see how many times things go off into space. You know that there's a pattern between that and government airplanes. Our stories of co-operation have been nothing but co-operative as they could only be. Like, we don't hold any leverage.

SPEAKER_00

01:40:00 - 01:40:04

I think some of the shit that we're seeing is our stuff.

SPEAKER_05

01:40:04 - 01:40:17

Right. I'm saying, but nobody would have a way of, like, as advanced as we are. We still got to let that balloon fly over, right?

SPEAKER_03

01:40:18 - 01:40:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

01:40:25 - 01:40:26

What the fuck is that?

SPEAKER_02

01:40:26 - 01:40:30

That's the most obvious shit ever. That's your neighbor peeking over the fence.

SPEAKER_05

01:40:30 - 01:40:33

No, it is not. It is your neighbor's drone.

SPEAKER_02

01:40:33 - 01:40:38

Yeah. Your neighbor's drone. In your house.

SPEAKER_00

01:40:38 - 01:40:42

Yeah. Right. Ridiculous. Right.

SPEAKER_05

01:40:42 - 01:40:48

Fill with opinionata of the next COVID. Right.

SPEAKER_00

01:40:49 - 01:40:52

I mean, what are they doing? Flying.

SPEAKER_05

01:40:52 - 01:41:04

It's not like that. It's not like that. In the world of flying things, sometimes things go off course. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04

01:41:04 - 01:41:06

It's especially spice stuff.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:06 - 01:41:11

Do you think that's all it was? And one, of course, they just magically happen to go near all the military.

SPEAKER_05

01:41:11 - 01:41:16

Don't say magically. I'm just say wind. The wind got it.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:16 - 01:41:27

Well, I'm saying. They just flew those things over and they hoped that Biden didn't notice. They said they flew over during Trump's administration tube. They didn't tell them because they didn't want them shoot them down.

SPEAKER_05

01:41:27 - 01:41:31

Neither of those stories is true. That information was out there. Right.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:31 - 01:41:33

Right. Another one.

SPEAKER_01

01:41:33 - 01:41:38

Yeah. This was a hobbyist though, but. Oh.

SPEAKER_05

01:41:38 - 01:41:51

That's a day. This doesn't count. Yeah. This doesn't count. And the way that you know immediately is this is over Utah. That would be where, you know.

SPEAKER_02

01:41:51 - 01:41:59

That's like white sands, right? No, that's New Mexico, isn't it? Yeah. Um, what's a, this got to be military based in Utah, all right?

SPEAKER_05

01:41:59 - 01:42:01

Well, I'm saying in the, actually the image I showed.

SPEAKER_01

01:42:01 - 01:42:06

And in the map wise, the Chinese surveillance balloons, what this is.

SPEAKER_02

01:42:06 - 01:42:15

Oh, that's what this one is. This is the one from February 2023. That's the one they shot down. Look at that. So it's just a balloon with the solar power and some kind of camera.

SPEAKER_05

01:42:17 - 01:42:23

how weird. Not weird. Not weird.

SPEAKER_02

01:42:23 - 01:42:33

Well, not weird if you just think about human patterns. We've got to see what the enemy's up to. Let's fly over and take some pictures. I don't know if the fuck is going on with these people.

SPEAKER_05

01:42:33 - 01:42:57

I'm saying we can say whatever we want, but we're civilized and maybe they're not civilized. So if you aren't civilized, then maybe part of your job is they are born weaponry. So you got to test it out. You got to see what it can do. And yeah, they're going to go off course. OK.

SPEAKER_00

01:42:57 - 01:43:04

Well, that's not airborne weaponry, but we have a lot of information is. That's true. Information is weaponry.

SPEAKER_05

01:43:04 - 01:43:30

Information is. Just knowing what the conversations are over this wide swath of people who's worth. money because at the end of all these information driven society places is analytics and that's what this is. Yeah, probably set too much.

SPEAKER_02

01:43:30 - 01:43:51

No, that's all right. We'll be fine. I just wonder where it's all headed because if it seems like we're building towards an event. I think about it all the time. It seems like it's not it's time to get a bunker. It seems like it might be a good time to get a bunker, or at least a supply of water.

SPEAKER_05

01:43:51 - 01:44:17

Well, here's the thing. If you follow what becomes accessible, that's how you can generally see where things are going, you know? That's the true magicalness of Elon Musk. You know, let's take that guy out of the story and just tell that story and yeah.

SPEAKER_02

01:44:22 - 01:44:30

Yeah, he's moving us into so many different directions all at the same time. The electric car thing, the internet satellite thing, and now the snorling thing. The snorling thing is the craziest thing.

SPEAKER_05

01:44:30 - 01:45:31

Because all of these things are connected in these higher upper echelon conversations. I'm saying you see the same conversation with Tesla or Da Vinci or like, Information is what is limited. And whole industries can be built upon your ability to know how certain things are going to hit certain people. And this was before we called things promotion and marketing. You know what I mean? Hollywood is not really there to entertain you. Like that's great that that happens. But propaganda is something that is important to all civilizations.

SPEAKER_02

01:45:31 - 01:46:25

Well, propaganda and Hollywood movies is built into the ingredients list. It's like if you want flour, you need wheat. You're going to have to get the wheat. And if you want to be able to make movies about certain subjects, you have to be able to work with some people. And it would be nice if you made it so that this is what we're trying to accomplish. And this is showing the negative side of this other society. And this This is our hero. This is our hero who's gonna go do America's bidding and go over there and you're like okay, and those movies is successful and so they continue this relationship and You become a bit of a propaganda arm For the government and then turn they don't fuck with you Right, but that's what

SPEAKER_05

01:46:27 - 01:48:04

That's what makes information so powerful is, you know. You don't care how people feel about the ritual. It's about the following the ritual work. And so you can fool yourself in the thinking there isn't one, but the evidence will be clear. So like when I was like, oh, these guys are wearing dresses. Everybody's like, oh he keeps talking about people wearing dresses. It's not like that. Look at it from a different way. Look at it. Show me one person that ever wore a dress in Hollywood unsuccessfully. That's how you understand what a ritual is. So 20 years ago, I knew that transgenders was going to be a thing. It wasn't because I was a prophet. It's just I had gotten so much information. that I understood the things are secular. So I understood that the earliest I had seen that word transgender was baffement the transgender. And so I knew that the endo ritual of bafflement, the transgender, to show allegiance to him, you had to kiss his ass ring.

SPEAKER_03

01:48:04 - 01:48:04

Really?

SPEAKER_05

01:48:04 - 01:48:29

And it said both of those things. So I knew that both of those things will become popular in the future. And that somehow, calling people to go would be normalized over the sheep being always the most popular reference.

SPEAKER_02

01:48:29 - 01:48:39

God damn we got some good weed cat Jesus. That's must be the weed. Trying to figure out how to jump it on that.

SPEAKER_05

01:48:39 - 01:48:41

Right. Which is my only goal.

SPEAKER_02

01:48:45 - 01:50:02

I always wonder whether or not all the stories in the Bible, it's just where we are experiencing it. Like the Mark of the Beast thing that we were talking about earlier, if that is not, if that is not, if you had to tell a story for so many years. Yeah. Before anybody ever even figured out how to write it down, and you're telling a story about a civilization that allowed people to put brain implants in them, and then also in the brain implants were hijacked by machines, and people became just meat zombies controlled by corporations. That would be the mark of the beast. That would be a demonic thing. If a demon tricked human beings into wearing a hat that turned you into a zombie, that demon would be like a famous character in books and folklore. But that demon exists and it's just technology. It just shows itself through this desire for the newest latest innovations that are going to constantly fuel it becoming more and more powerful. And to one day it tricks you into letting it into its head like a vampire. Like the vampire stories, you had to let him in, remember? That was the thing. You had to invite them in. And if you've invited them in, you're fucked. But if you didn't invite them in for some reason, they weren't allowed to kill you.

SPEAKER_05

01:50:03 - 01:50:48

There's almost a story that you have to be able to benefit from the zombie. There's no benefit in that taken out of context. If you're making a zombie so that they can mind for you, then there's a story of that over there. that's the whole thing is when you look at these ancient writings they're not they're not saying like um yeah so he was from another world and um we had to bring him our kids and he would eat him in front of us like they're not telling those stories they're saying like

SPEAKER_02

01:50:50 - 01:51:01

agriculture, knowledge, literature, and cosmology, right, explaining the origin of life. Yeah. Like, show the double Helix DNA. To a fault.

SPEAKER_05

01:51:01 - 01:51:10

Yeah. Nobody's, yeah, saying out anything outside of mathematics parameters.

SPEAKER_02

01:51:10 - 01:51:31

Well, the wildest stuff is when you look at some of those old Sumerian tablets and you see how they have the solar system mapped out. They had the sun in the center. Looked just like a sun, a little marks around it. It had Venus where it should be. Jupiter where it should be. Uranus where it should be. They were all in the right spots. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

01:51:31 - 01:51:34

The Ethiopian tribe have the same.

SPEAKER_04

01:51:34 - 01:51:36

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05

01:51:36 - 01:51:50

Like no. It's not. Yeah, but there's there. There is no craziness. Everything lines up. Um, the same greed. Look at that.

SPEAKER_01

01:51:50 - 01:51:55

That is just nuts, man.

SPEAKER_02

01:51:55 - 01:52:31

Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the conventional explanation for that is, because that Zachara, a sitian guy who said all this stuff, he was often criticized that people said that he took things too far, that his, his analysis went too far, and he just went into speculation, but God damn, a lot of the stuff that he was saying. Like, you could see that deep, In the actual tablets themselves, they show these gigantic beings with these little tiny people sitting on their labs and the people of tales. Have you seen those? It's like genetic engineering.

SPEAKER_05

01:52:31 - 01:52:34

Maybe it's a tale, maybe it's piping. What?

SPEAKER_01

01:52:34 - 01:52:36

What is this? You already couldn't piping.

SPEAKER_05

01:52:36 - 01:52:44

You understand what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. What I'm saying is nobody's telling these outlandish.

SPEAKER_01

01:52:44 - 01:52:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02

01:52:46 - 01:52:57

where they're all kind of all saying the same thing. There's some higher power that comes and gives you structure tells you what to do and how to live. And every society.

SPEAKER_01

01:52:57 - 01:53:01

Information. Information. That's what they give you. They give you information.

SPEAKER_05

01:53:01 - 01:53:07

Yeah. Every story, every civilization, every time.

SPEAKER_02

01:53:07 - 01:53:13

Yep. Yeah, that's it. And that's what we're all thirsty for. You know?

SPEAKER_05

01:53:13 - 01:53:15

And we'll wait there still a monotide.

SPEAKER_02

01:53:16 - 01:53:40

That's too. But also humans individually are thirsty for information. We always want information. We want gossip, we want news, we want bullshit, we want science, especially if you have an appetite for things that make you think. There's so much information that people just constantly consuming. There's bullshit information like TikTok and nonsense that just passes you by.

SPEAKER_05

01:53:40 - 01:53:42

But there's still, and none of that stuff is nonsense.

SPEAKER_02

01:53:43 - 01:53:49

What's not in all nonsense? What it is is just another option to get your attention.

SPEAKER_05

01:53:49 - 01:54:04

Right. Which is what all of this is about. From the Roman Coliseum. Yep, too. It doesn't matter. Yeah. The Roman Coliseum there's court time like does the first viral videos.

SPEAKER_02

01:54:04 - 01:54:08

Right. Right. Right. Right. It would tell viral stories.

SPEAKER_05

01:54:09 - 01:54:25

Yeah, this is all about this experience of being a human being in this amount of time. And interaction between other people who have done this thing you're doing.

SPEAKER_02

01:54:25 - 01:54:33

Yeah. And in the middle of you doing it, you realize you only have a certain amount of time. And you're like, god damn it. I'm just starting to figure this game out.

SPEAKER_05

01:54:33 - 01:55:33

Right. So understand that. I was probably like five years old when I had that moment. So I looked out because it happened to me so early. But it wasn't about the, yeah, I got that part. So I thought, I thought at like that age, I was thinking, okay. So I don't know how long I'm gonna live because I'm kind of conflicted about how long people live. 100's a good number, but there's been people that 600 seems. I don't know. I like things like this. But I'm just gonna space it out seven years at a time. So every seven years, that's gonna be a life. So I don't waste anything. So I couldn't wait till I got seven because that was gonna be the start of my first life.

SPEAKER_01

01:55:33 - 01:55:36

Why'd you bring it in the seventh? Just randomly?

SPEAKER_05

01:55:39 - 01:55:51

I don't know where randomly means. It's a seldom seen thing in the universe. Randomly.

SPEAKER_02

01:55:51 - 01:55:56

So just seven seemed like a good number? It was instinctual or was it?

SPEAKER_05

01:55:56 - 01:56:29

To people around the globe. Seven. Yeah. It's a great number. That's why I asked. Yeah, well, I'm saying not for no reason. I'm saying if you like math, you know, I'm saying it's a great number. That's how you know that the pyramids are about something because of what they represent mathematically. That level of mathematical information is another step into realization.

SPEAKER_02

01:56:31 - 01:57:04

Yeah, the idea that that was just by accident like when they they trigonometry is not Yeah, it also that they figured out like this There's some measurement. I don't want to bore anybody with the details because I'll butcher it, too. But it's the measurements of the height and width and the mass of the pyramid in comparison to the circumference of earth. They knew so much about where constellations would be at certain times of the year, like in the summer solstice. It's just wild shit, man.

SPEAKER_05

01:57:04 - 01:57:24

The right, but all in stone. But not that wild, though, because we know that if you were traveling that bullies are out there and they're out there for certain reasons and understand satellite positioning. And no, no, it makes perfect sense.

SPEAKER_00

01:57:26 - 01:57:32

Hmm. Imagine how to the pyramids were. Those are ultimate buoy.

SPEAKER_05

01:57:32 - 01:57:40

That was home base. Well, I'm saying it's not different than how we would treat a planet that we had not been too before.

SPEAKER_02

01:57:40 - 01:57:42

No, not at all. Not different at all.

SPEAKER_05

01:57:43 - 01:57:54

I mean, we would locate where's the best place to land, where is the most hospitable of this place, and we would put something there.

SPEAKER_02

01:57:54 - 01:58:52

And let's imagine that we landed somewhere, and we found this lush green vibrant planet, and we found those Hobbit people, and those are the most advanced people. Those homophloriaces, phloria insisted, is that what it is? Phloria's, phloria insisted, so this creature is three foot tall human. Imagine if we found them. I guarantee you, someone would want to introduce them to tools, introduce them to how to make fire, introduce them to figure out language, try to transfer their language to our language, try to teach them our stuff, try to genetically engineer them and turn them into something different. If we have the tools that we have now at CRISPR and we found some primitive apes and there was like a massive population, I'll Australia Pithicus on a planet and we said look, They're on the way. Let's just give a little boost just give a little boost. And that's with not too much.

SPEAKER_05

01:58:52 - 01:59:07

And that's what you see with all of the UFO stories is they keep popping up in these times when we as a civilization are getting ready to eff it up. Right in real time in real time.

SPEAKER_02

01:59:07 - 01:59:26

Yeah, you know, that's like my comedy club. That's why I named the mother rooms. I named the room's fat man and little boy. Oh, because the UFO started coming after the big bombs That's when they really started like ramping up their presence like if you look at all the the reports the flying saucer ports are like 1947 1952.

SPEAKER_05

01:59:26 - 01:59:30

If you cross engineer our shit, it's going to show up on our radar.

SPEAKER_02

01:59:30 - 01:59:40

At some point, this information is especially when we're using that information very recklessly, wild.

SPEAKER_05

01:59:40 - 01:59:52

Even in the Bible story, the Tower of Heaven. This story is that, you know, with everybody speaking the same language, it intensifies

SPEAKER_02

01:59:53 - 02:00:19

shit getting done and they could do and stuff that was hazardous if they I think they're very close to being able to translate language instantaneously in real time because they can do it right now with Samsung phones the new they have the new galaxy S24 animals are doing it were alive Oh, for sure. They have some sort of a language. They have some sort of a communication.

SPEAKER_05

02:00:19 - 02:00:27

They there's something going on with animals that's unverbal and with all of our and with all of us, you know, Tom Green.

SPEAKER_02

02:00:29 - 02:00:57

You know Tom Green, right? Yes. Tom Green was here and he has a mule. And he said that you have like a connection with that animal where you know you want to go left and you start like looking left and that thing starts going left. He goes, it's really crazy. It's spooky. He goes, you develop it. It takes time. They have to earn your respect. But once you develop this like loving relationship with this animal, you're tuned into it like an avatar creature. Just like when they would lock on to their dragons, he's like, dude, it's like that.

SPEAKER_05

02:00:57 - 02:01:33

I have that with women and with ducks and geese and Canadian geese and goats like you have. No, that's, but understand. Again, that's part of some religion's story. is that one of the gifts was the relationship between humans and the animal world. And it's something that all civilizations have been able to use and it's stayed true, you know?

SPEAKER_00

02:01:33 - 02:01:38

Yeah. It's amazing to really ship humans out of the animals.

SPEAKER_05

02:01:38 - 02:01:43

Yes, there's a horse. No, there's no especially like all of them.

SPEAKER_02

02:01:43 - 02:02:06

We abuse some of them. Well, just horses don't interact with people the same way a dog does. That's all I'm saying. It's like the interaction you have with dogs is almost like psychic. Like the dogs are like your little friends. You know, they know when you're in a bad mood, they know when you hurt your foot. You know, when they're happy to see you every fucking time, every fucking time, bar none.

SPEAKER_05

02:02:06 - 02:02:28

I have that relationship with everybody that's Yeah, animals and like special needs people. It's the innocence and the purity that you get. It's not always good. But it's so we can learn from them. No, we have learned.

SPEAKER_02

02:02:28 - 02:02:38

Yeah, we should know it. But we're scared. People are scared of other people being shitty and we put up like shields and we're, you know, we're worried about it.

SPEAKER_00

02:02:38 - 02:02:39

Well, it's been proven.

SPEAKER_05

02:02:39 - 02:02:45

The truth. Historically is that. You know.

SPEAKER_03

02:02:45 - 02:02:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

02:02:46 - 02:03:07

Okay, and enable is a real story there. Like, you know what I mean? Like, people are like, people are so violent these days and that's true. But people have been violent. Like, there was this point where human kind learned that they could take a life and it changed things.

SPEAKER_00

02:03:07 - 02:03:24

You know? Well, especially take a life quickly with like when they figured out swords and bows and arrows and tricks. What do you think the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about? Because I was just reading that clearly nice. Cleanliness?

SPEAKER_02

02:03:24 - 02:03:28

Yeah. Yeah. Did that took them out? That like plague?

SPEAKER_05

02:03:31 - 02:03:37

Okay, because I think the nine times I've gotten canceled in this one conversation.

SPEAKER_02

02:03:37 - 02:03:52

Okay, the of Sodom and good more there's two speculations right one of them was that God decided that they weren't hospitable enough And the other one was God had decided that there was too much sin.

SPEAKER_05

02:03:52 - 02:03:56

Women, that's not speculation, that's in the book. Right. That first one.

SPEAKER_02

02:03:56 - 02:04:25

Right, but there was respectability part that they were not hospitable enough. Yeah. That was the part of it. That's part of it, too. So he just, so God had just decided, I'm gonna fuck up this whole city. No, no, no, no, no. Right, what's the real story there? Okay, so... Turned it into Pillars' Assault. Two cities, right? And they said, find me 50 good men, and I won't do this. And then I think he said, find me 10 good men.

SPEAKER_05

02:04:25 - 02:04:37

Okay, so they, this story is generally used to say that God, it doesn't like homosexuals. This is the story, the highlights.

SPEAKER_02

02:04:37 - 02:04:44

Okay, so it's not just sin. It's not just, so because Sodomy is even technically like oral sex.

SPEAKER_05

02:04:47 - 02:04:51

The meaning of that word comes from Sodom and Gomorrah.

SPEAKER_02

02:04:51 - 02:05:00

Right. So that's why it's technically, it includes a lot of things people think is deviant sex. You know, I got to piss so bad. Can we come back to this? Sodom and Gomorrah. Come back to this.

SPEAKER_00

02:05:00 - 02:05:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

02:05:00 - 02:05:01

Let's take a look at that. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

02:05:01 - 02:05:07

Let's take a look at Sodom and Gomorrah.

SPEAKER_05

02:05:07 - 02:05:34

Yeah. So it tells several stories, but There had to be an explanation before what the story said happened to two cities of people, right? Right.

SPEAKER_00

02:05:34 - 02:05:37

Gotta be a reason until that story.

SPEAKER_05

02:05:37 - 02:06:02

Most likely. To tell this story, it requires all of those people that really have been killed in those circumstances. And historical evidence shows us that Something like that happened. Like those two cities really did exist.

SPEAKER_00

02:06:02 - 02:06:05

Do we know where Solomon Moore was?

SPEAKER_05

02:06:05 - 02:06:10

Are you kidding? I know a guy who pulled that information up so fast.

SPEAKER_04

02:06:10 - 02:06:10

Really?

SPEAKER_05

02:06:10 - 02:06:13

Put it on the screen. Young Jamie.

SPEAKER_01

02:06:13 - 02:06:14

Oh, is there specialization?

SPEAKER_05

02:06:14 - 02:06:22

His side kick is awake now. This is, you can see the best part of him when Carl wakes up. Carl's awake now.

SPEAKER_02

02:06:22 - 02:06:23

He's in 30 wicker.

SPEAKER_05

02:06:23 - 02:06:27

Right. Um, as we all would be if we were in charge of our sketches.

SPEAKER_02

02:06:27 - 02:06:36

Yeah, probably. What do they think that it? Like, is there real speculations to where it was? Where, what do you think it was?

SPEAKER_05

02:06:36 - 02:08:40

It's not speculation. A lot of these places. just change names like they used to be called this and then they later were called to an else but you rock used to be Schumer right like these are literal places you can find on the real map that was a part of that biblical rabbit hole I was telling you about it just seeing the my only concern is how do these ancient Islamic Jew Dayage how do you say that those three that exist the that all religion is built on Jew Dayo Christian Islamic that whole belief system of how that operates right so you see they have question marks here right Only because they know that there were cities there So they have records there or like like for example Everybody if everybody and Gaza talks about going there exist if everybody and he brought has family members that live there it is this if everybody we we know that so they think that was right near the dead sea wow well they didn't think it any differently than they thought Talal, how am I if I'm pronouncing that correct? Like these were places like people throughout history if you show anybody of water those are always my spots. Water is its own commodity and currency at all points and that was the dead sea.

SPEAKER_00

02:08:43 - 02:08:51

But that's everywhere. Was the Dead Sea always the Dead Sea?

SPEAKER_02

02:08:51 - 02:08:55

God damn, there's so much interesting stuff that came from that part of the world. That's what they found the Dead Sea.

SPEAKER_05

02:08:55 - 02:09:26

But a lot of this stuff that was supposed to be unbelievable was all based on something real like Right, how long was it the Dead Sea? Long before they knew a high salt content was. Right. Or they might have called it high-contact salt content sea. But what they were trying to say is stuff not growing here. Okay, don't be looking. Don't come here as a fishing spot.

SPEAKER_02

02:09:27 - 02:09:41

Right. But it's a good spot to gather salt, which at that point in time was as valuable as anything on earth. Salt did go to war for salt. Salt allowed people to preserve their food. Salt was insanely valuable.

SPEAKER_05

02:09:42 - 02:12:23

understand the whole portions because at the end of the day for all people it comes down to quality of life. So the jump that was made between people eating food that you had to kill yourself catching just so that you could put it over something hot so that you could get it where you could eat it and eaten it like you. that experience to seasoning your food and, you know, have an order from the best place because eating too much spaghetti to your front. Right. That's part of the greatness of human experience and has been that the part of being a king or being a royalty through all civilizations was being able to experience the best. culinary things because if you believe in God that's one of the attributes that makes you believe in him because every vegetable let's say that you would have when it gets to the point where it was spoiled and then it would be useless and you'd have to throw it away it becomes worth more money Because it's compost. No. So if you have potatoes, right? And so you have potatoes. But now you got too many potatoes. You could give vodka from that. And if you have too much rice, you could get sake from that. And if you got too much wheat and barley, you can get And if you, every thing that you could have to much, we got too many grapes, you could get wine with that. The whole, that's why alcohol is called spirits, because it's literally a gift from God, just something that's just for your milk once it's going bad that's where cheese comes in like whatever it is you would be having as a commodity um grapes to raisins wherever like this is why we believe mathematically because of the certain things that are just done for the enjoyment of

SPEAKER_02

02:12:26 - 02:12:39

So you think there's a reason why all these things exist, why like rotting fruit can become alcohol, alcohol can put you in a different state of mind. All of it is connected together so that you discover it and figure it out.

SPEAKER_05

02:12:39 - 02:12:54

Unless you can figure out the benefit that a mushroom gets for being a hallucinogenic. Or the frog, that's the special ones. The special benefit did that frog get from that.

SPEAKER_02

02:12:54 - 02:12:56

Right. Why is the frog making DMT?

SPEAKER_05

02:12:57 - 02:13:03

Is he living a better life as a frog? Does he live under the effects?

SPEAKER_02

02:13:03 - 02:13:06

Residually of constantly carrying around DMT.

SPEAKER_01

02:13:09 - 02:13:10

Right.

SPEAKER_02

02:13:10 - 02:13:25

All right. Well, they secrete when they're scared, right? Isn't that the whole idea that you take them and you rub them on a windshield? It's wet or not. It's from the beginning. Yeah. Right. Right. They're scared because they think they're going to die. So they're bodies producing it.

SPEAKER_05

02:13:25 - 02:14:25

Well, they're like ours. The inventor of perfumes and clones was whoever saw a skunk in action first because you know it that's when someone was able to see how powerful smell is even from a distance and that the aerosol like you know I mean like we've learned so much from that world that's how we know like We were able to look at animals and insects and understand that we would be able to do the helicopter after we got past Orville and Wilbur in Dayton, Ohio. You know what I mean? Like we understood, because we had seen the hummingbird run on a mean like we had seen how things worked. Have you ever seen those Egyptian gliders?

SPEAKER_02

02:14:26 - 02:14:41

They found these gliders, these wooden things that they carved that look like fucking plants. And they were in some of the tombs that they had found. Thousands of years old. Looks like a fucking airplane.

SPEAKER_05

02:14:41 - 02:15:37

I mean, they're very up, looks exactly the same. That these are things talked about, like even if you're just following Jesus, right? okay so you believe that he was perfect and that this was how he grew up and got it when it comes to him going to get information he went to this specific place that we're talking about to get information and to get talked and that's not a hidden fact like it's been that way so um you can't be reading all of these stories and not see how everything lines up.

SPEAKER_02

02:15:37 - 02:15:55

It does kind of line up in a strange way. You try to decipher it from all the different cultures that all other different versions of it but at the end of it there's a lot of similarities if you follow the stories and like what what they what are they saying all of them have some sort of a creation myth.

SPEAKER_00

02:15:55 - 02:15:55

Well I'm

SPEAKER_02

02:15:56 - 02:16:27

When is that odd though that a creature? Have you think of human beings as a creature? A human being that's never created a being itself has this idea that a magical force that is all knowing and all loving created. Not they evolved, not they came from this and they learned they got better, but that they were created. And that seems like a universal story, the created story.

SPEAKER_05

02:16:27 - 02:17:50

That's only because the duck, that's outside of my house right now, believes that. So the duck is sitting on six eggs on a nest, right by the house, right by a 250 pound dog. Alibi and believes that it has life that is sitting on and it's going to come from that and that there's somebody there that looks out for them and make sure they're fed in the Bible story it says the Sparrow said like like Jesus say who feeds the Sparrow's like like worldwide there's how many birds like billions and billions and billions of birds like who's feeding them every day like real talk yeah because what you're looking for is you need to find a mistake that's how we would know maybe there's no creator But we don't go through our regular life seeing things and thinking nobody created it. Like, I would be as weird as I was being in this room going. Nobody made those curtains, nobody made these cameras, nobody met. Like, what? We never have evidence of that.

SPEAKER_02

02:17:50 - 02:18:26

What do you think? What do you think people have a reluctance to take in the idea of a creator? What do you think about it to them is there's some people that fancy themselves as intellectuals and they refuse to take in a concept for which there's no proof and that's what they'll say they use this very reductionist view of what God is and they'll say there's no proof And there are staunch atheists and a lot of them they even talk like religious people. Almost their atheism becomes a religion. So being completely open-minded to the possibility of zero idea what happens when you die.

SPEAKER_05

02:18:26 - 02:19:00

A lot of people that are atheists don't like God and God would have to exist for them to not like. So the whole thing is if you were to believe in the big bang you have to believe that that happened several times throughout history just because that's what we've seen from everything that's been created.

SPEAKER_02

02:19:00 - 02:19:09

We don't see one individual unique thing that exists and it's responsible for all things except the big bang. Those are turns we can't always say.

SPEAKER_05

02:19:09 - 02:20:32

There's too much thought that went into certain things like the fact that You can study all the butterflies and not one of them has a sense of humor. You know what I mean, but me, you do. And like it goes for all humans, if universally, if we see somebody tripping fall, we all laugh no matter what our back like there are certain Yeah, like like there's that I'm trying to think of what the reasons are to not believe but I can't remember what they are because it doesn't it doesn't line up with anything like and we would have to have gone in space and there would be no other planets just this one just that's it for this story too makes sense universally. Like, we're at a terrible time in history to say, oh, we don't believe in people from outer space when we can go to outer space. Like, it's almost asimined to try to make both of those make sense. And to think that there's our son is not the biggest son, right? Not even close. But it's the biggest son we ever gonna see.

SPEAKER_04

02:20:32 - 02:20:34

Right? So it's the biggest fucking son.

SPEAKER_05

02:20:35 - 02:21:04

right but the truth is no there's way bigger like right like that I thought went into picking this particular son for this planet and the moon and the positioning of much as if you were building a house like you will put particulars in like here like here rock to make sure that throughout the time period of history, you put a stamp in a mark on it.

SPEAKER_01

02:21:04 - 02:21:05

Right.

SPEAKER_05

02:21:05 - 02:21:24

Right. That's why if you were extraterrestrial, let's say, and you were going to build one building on this planet, it would be the pyramid. On. Like most people don't even understand that there was a whole outer covering on that thing. And gold. And gold.

SPEAKER_04

02:21:24 - 02:21:25

Like it was a planet Terry.

SPEAKER_05

02:21:30 - 02:21:34

Monument. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

02:21:34 - 02:21:43

You might be right. It makes more sense than the idea that these people push those things in the place. And then got them hundreds of miles out of the mountain with ropes shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05

02:21:43 - 02:22:01

Throughout history, we have not done things that did not profit us. And I'm not 150 years from now. Right now. All through history. Right. So to be thinking that this particular civilization. Oh, you know what?

SPEAKER_04

02:22:01 - 02:22:13

We all care about when he's going to die. Let's we all I dedicate my life the way he goes down. I'm gonna die while I... Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

02:22:13 - 02:22:15

No, history doesn't save that.

SPEAKER_00

02:22:15 - 02:22:26

And anyway, it's also the sheer mass. 3,200,000 stones in the Great Pyramid. That is so much mass.

SPEAKER_05

02:22:26 - 02:22:38

All of the wonders of the world. are truly that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

02:22:38 - 02:22:44

Yeah, this is a bunch of them too, man.

SPEAKER_02

02:22:44 - 02:22:59

The wild shit that they're digging out of Turkey is not too. That's the go-beckly teppy place where they've found 12,000 year old structures back at the time when they thought people were just using sticks and stones and hunter gathers. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05

02:22:59 - 02:23:50

Because the whole time they were saying that it was there. But understand these are the things where the of a war, just so you know, worthy of a war. You know, he said I'm saying all throughout history. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. That's the only thing a rational person can take from Hitler's story is being able to see what if you had unlimited resource and ability to just follow global rabbit holes. You find out that most stuff that is labeled BS is not BS is very hard to come

SPEAKER_00

02:23:51 - 02:23:56

Well, the handler thing is real weird because the Nazis are really into the occult.

SPEAKER_05

02:23:56 - 02:24:06

As some point in the information process, that was required.

SPEAKER_00

02:24:06 - 02:24:09

So it was required to be into the occult.

SPEAKER_05

02:24:18 - 02:25:30

So in like the world of medicine like certain things Before they had a label being toxic you just knew don't touch it like you know what I mean you didn't know what it was good for but Those occultists were the keepers of things that did work not things that did not work right so But throughout history, that whole process of thinking, anything that could fall into the alchemy conversation was seen as a cult-based, it meant doing something unnatural. So even like the blacksmith was considered a part of that world, the most of history. Really? Because he had a natural relationship with elements. He was able to take this and turn it into, brings, for steel.

SPEAKER_01

02:25:30 - 02:25:32

Yeah, all that makes sense.

SPEAKER_05

02:25:34 - 02:25:46

I always wondered at the heart of all processes that are discussed at these pyramids and all because they're all processes.

SPEAKER_02

02:25:48 - 02:26:01

I've always wondered if Alchemy is trying to regain lost knowledge. Like at one point in time, they didn't know how to just make medals. They didn't know how to create elements. They didn't know how to change lead into gold or whatever the fuck they wanted to do.

SPEAKER_05

02:26:01 - 02:26:46

That's what this whole line was consistent. But it required money and time and all royalty, all kings, all great leaders of the world. This is what you paid for. Whereas people that could make things happen. So being able to understand the weather and to them be able to manipulate it in any way possible with valuable all through human history. all the way before we get to the seeding of clouds part.

SPEAKER_02

02:26:46 - 02:27:10

Do you think they they have the ability to manipulate weather back then? It'd be wild if they did if that's what caused the Sahara desert to emerge because all that shit used to be lush tropical rainforest. Imagine if that's humans fucking with cloud seeding. They just ruin it.

SPEAKER_05

02:27:13 - 02:27:57

Well, that wouldn't explain how that has its own environment. That's just as valuable. You know what I mean? It goes to further back up what I was telling you about how it seems like somebody put thought into every scenario you might be in. So let's say you lived in one of them deserts and all you had was cactus. Guess what? You could take that cactus and make tequila too. True. Like every part of the process, like people figure something out. And the people figure something out. Something is there to be figured out. Right.

SPEAKER_02

02:27:57 - 02:28:07

Right. Right. Well, that's what the indigenous people say about Ayahuasca. They said that the plants told them how to make it. The mushrooms told them how to make it.

SPEAKER_05

02:28:09 - 02:28:56

As a person that loves nature, you know that most of your experience in nature is based upon how other things react. You know what I mean? So you don't know that this is poised in this except for the fact that it doesn't look like anything's eating whatever is on here. It looks like everything is avoiding it. These are real things, and that requires creation as well. The whole consequence thing in the fact that this animal is able to live with this thing that's going to be doing damage to you.

SPEAKER_02

02:28:56 - 02:29:06

So let me ask you this, because this is the end conclusion of that. If creation is real, and if God is real, and if God created us, let's be specific creation of what?

SPEAKER_05

02:29:07 - 02:29:14

I just told you about my ducks and her eggs. That creation is real for sure. For sure. Yeah. I'm not. And life is going to come from.

SPEAKER_02

02:29:14 - 02:29:36

Yeah. What I mean is that that God created everything and that there's the really is of a reason for all of it. What is the reason for us? Like if God really did make all these things synchronized together and put us here.

SPEAKER_05

02:29:42 - 02:29:45

First of all, I'm grateful, even if you're not.

SPEAKER_02

02:29:45 - 02:29:46

I'm grateful.

SPEAKER_05

02:29:46 - 02:32:34

Like, I'm very grateful. What an experience. Amazing time, right? And if you take time and space out of things, right? Like, the people that sold me call a duty, right? gave me a great experience that I've been enjoying for years and years and years and the person that I am on that platform is the person that I would like to be all and experience has been delivered. It would be like saying What was it thinking on somebody making an amusement park? To a muse? people so that they could have a full experience and be able to enjoy it. You know that because things happen like the humor thing that I was telling you about and health, how important good healthy is over the opposite of that. how everything works without you needing to micro-manage it. Your heart doesn't require you to count its beats and what's the percentage of brains? that are working perfectly versus the ones that are not like. All of the processes needed to run you are just too well done to be thrown away like not important because if you learn about it, you'll learn about the whole workings of the universe and it's like that in too many different places for us to ignore and the fact that we get a chance to have that experience while at the same time looking at a dog and understanding that our life is one billion times greater than five does. And we can make sure five does has a glorious life and ours is still so magnificent that we're in control of certain things and that we can not get things right and then get it right and not know things and then know things and then you know It's a wonderful experience that was created.

SPEAKER_02

02:32:34 - 02:33:45

It is a wonderful experience and we seem to have by far the most unique one on the planet. We seem very different than everything else. very different than everything else in the world. Part of it? Yeah, purposely. That's why I was wondering. Super efficient. What are we here for? What is the purpose? Is it just to enjoy and be grateful, which is great? Like one of the things is terrifying people. It's a very interesting concept of the terrifying people. People are terrified of living the same life over and over and over again. If you tell people, that the journey of your soul is that you will live your life over and over again until you get it right and one day you'll get it right one in one lifetime you'll achieve enlightenment but you're going to go through the same lifetime over and over and over again until you get it right people terrified of that but I say right but that will require a creator though you sure would but what I'm saying is why would you be terrified of that when you're not terrified to exist right now why are you terrified of existing right now forever I don't find that terrifying. If you enjoy now, if you enjoy now, now's great.

SPEAKER_05

02:33:45 - 02:34:05

Whenever you die, it's forever. You know what I mean? So I know and have known in my life that I'm going to live forever. I know I'll die, but I know I'm going to live forever until then and then live beyond that.

SPEAKER_00

02:34:05 - 02:34:06

Right.

SPEAKER_02

02:34:07 - 02:34:12

Well, that certainly is a better approach to life in that it gives you comfort.

SPEAKER_05

02:34:12 - 02:35:00

And that's what... No, that's what history shows us. History has shown us that. And what we're that human beings are still here not because of our wise decision making like nobody's story says that we've gotten assistance along the way that we needed it and we have implemented it globally. This is why those One world people exist because it's a very powerful concept to have and far too lucrative and beneficial to not be attempted.

SPEAKER_02

02:35:00 - 02:35:17

Yeah, I mean, if I was going to run some global power organization, I would try to co-opt every single leader, try to suck them in, offer support, bring them out to wherever the fuck I have my baby house meetings, fly everybody in in private jets, talk about the climate crisis.

SPEAKER_05

02:35:17 - 02:35:20

All organizations have to follow the same rules.

SPEAKER_02

02:35:20 - 02:35:22

Yeah, that's wild.

SPEAKER_05

02:35:24 - 02:36:18

Recruitment is an important facet of all like we have to get some young global leaders Well understand this is the only reason that we can talk about these big Illuminati like entities at this period of time It's just because of time like they aged out like you can't right get in Everybody got decrepit over there and they can't exchange, really, through this period of history. And so that's how we ended up with the populist artists and everything. Through our history, you could really, it was much easier to get people to not tell nobody. Right, as part of your job, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

02:36:18 - 02:36:20

Imagine going to a world economic foreign party,

SPEAKER_02

02:36:21 - 02:37:00

What did those freaks do when all the listening devices have been scanned out of the room? All their phones have been put into bags and locked away in a lead vault. What did those freaks do? Because you know it's not normal shit. You know everybody's buttoned down like that. I want to control the world. There's something involved that's outlandish that they keep a secret. That's always been the case for secret societies. I mean, that's the whole eyes wide shut thing that there's some freak shit going on behind the scenes to anybody that really wants to control everything. You don't just want to control everything. You want to control everything. You want to control everything so you can get away with some freak shit, too.

SPEAKER_05

02:37:03 - 02:37:57

Right. I'm saying, but these Epstein, like characters have existed throughout history, or whether they were kings or what, like human beings are human beings universally. So everybody is a supplier. Epstein, Weinstein, like these guys knew what these extremist liked and provided it and provided the way for you to like to have a billion dollars and not create a fantasy island type environment has not existed throughout history right

SPEAKER_02

02:37:58 - 02:39:07

Right. Right. And there's always been those people couldn't only kind of interact with those kind of people. When you reach that certain level of wealth and global success, like you're a Bill Gates type guy, how many guys can Bill Gates hang out with? Bill Gates can't just go bowl and join the bowling team and make friends with the other bowlers. It's too weird. He's got to hang out with his kind. And the more you do that, the less you are in touch with what makes sense to say. And that's when you see them saying the most outlanded shit, because they don't recognize how regular people are going to react to what the fuck you're saying. You know what? We're our own nothing and be happy. What the fuck did you just say? You just say I'm going to own nothing and be happy, but there's things. So who owns the things and who who enforces who owns the things and how do you do that when you take away everybody's weapons you're the only one that's weapons and you get to decide who owns the things and no one owns the things and everyone's happy okay right but part of what you're trying to do is you're trying to come up with something

SPEAKER_05

02:39:08 - 02:40:26

that allows you to have the power while also profiting simultaneously, right? So if it's modern religion, let's say. So in the teaching of Jesus' time, right, when they say, paid the tives, right? It was, you had your whole farming plot, let's say it was 40 acres and you had corn planted there, right? You would just, when it came time to harvest, you would harvest everything except the rows that were on the fence. Right? And the rows that were on the fence that was the 10% of your field that would go to people that didn't have it. So it wasn't just you giving the 10% it was also the fact that human nature is if you were going to give people some of your crops, you're going to pick out the best crops for you and your family. And then you'll put another pile for the giveaway. If I'm saying this took care of that where it was all equal and the person that didn't have didn't have to feel like they was a beggar. They could come and pick and see which corn they liked and get You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02

02:40:26 - 02:40:34

Well, that's a smart move just for harmony in the community, too. Then there are people who have invested interest in this farmer being successful with his crop, right? Some of that crop is yours.

SPEAKER_05

02:40:34 - 02:41:37

But the decision to take it from that to God said, give me 10% in this plate is going to make a billion dollars a day for a billion people. this is why Tesla has to go why because not what Tesla is saying about electricity is the fact that he's saying this should be free for everybody right everywhere yeah he wanted to have aerial electricity free for everybody like radio waves and the day that you say that That's a wrap. It's cheaper to keep her. Because we make 200 billion a day. And we all agree universally. You should pay for this and we'll be in charge of selling it to you. It will shut it off. It'll be fuck around. So for us to say, I think they're going to do that with cars. This is how this goes in the universe processes.

SPEAKER_02

02:41:38 - 02:41:55

Yeah, that's the conspiracy theorist. Biggest fear about electric cars, but it's not just electric cars. We found out it's an on-star. It's on, you know, I have a Cadillac escalated. Then it has an on-star. If I'm driving the government wants to stop me, they can just shut my car off. It's crazy!

SPEAKER_05

02:41:55 - 02:42:00

And if you were in that business, what would you tell them they need to do it in the next five years?

SPEAKER_02

02:42:00 - 02:42:11

Yeah, I mean, you get better at it. You get better at that. Yeah, control where they go, control the steering wheel, control everything. I want you to auto driving on all cars. Auto driving on all cars with third party input.

SPEAKER_05

02:42:12 - 02:42:24

Is this not what we would say to Tesla? Yeah. I mean to Elon, if he said, I want to make cars. Right. Well, we say, OK, well, these are the regulations. And you have to make them like this. And be nice to you.

SPEAKER_02

02:42:24 - 02:42:37

You just control that car here. This is how you sell it to people. If someone steals your car, we can get it back. And you go, oh, that's great. Someone steals my car. They can get it back. How are they going to get it back? Well, they can control your car. You can make it.

SPEAKER_05

02:42:37 - 02:42:46

You can make it cheap enough. to not be a difficult sale, though, Joe. Yeah, make it change. That's what capitalism is about.

SPEAKER_02

02:42:46 - 02:43:18

Yeah. Well, that's also like when you get free internet or free services through Google, right? It's free, but what you're giving up is your data, which is extremely valuable. So they're giving you something. You can now use Google, but now they have all your data. And it's just a big net that minds data. And because of that, one of the most powerful entities that's ever existed on Earth, you know, there was a story that we learned from fishermen, how a net works.

SPEAKER_05

02:43:19 - 02:43:50

and how much it's important to get as much in as you possibly can and that that's where analytics live and that's where I'm saying this is where the DNA industry is built off of is is the fact of the future like at that same point that you're saying that we'll have those cars that do that They'll be able to predict crime. Oh yeah, and step in before certain things even need to happen.

SPEAKER_02

02:43:50 - 02:44:00

Or they'll probably instigate you to a certain level of stress that they could indicate that you're about to commit crime, and then they come in and get you.

SPEAKER_05

02:44:00 - 02:45:21

They won't need to be that nefarious only because some of this stuff we know already it just requires profiling that we not comfortable with like worldwide most terrible crimes are committed by this is 73rd time Most crime worldwide is done by men with a micro penis. And doctors know who they are. And so at some point, they would be able to just focus whether they need to focus and they would know certain things. And that's where, you know, this is why AI exists. You know, if your personal AI, you store your information, you make moves based upon what you've learned. So it's not a difficult process. All through history, they had these oracles and these heads that gave answers.

SPEAKER_01

02:45:21 - 02:45:21

Right?

SPEAKER_05

02:45:21 - 02:45:39

And this is where that whole occult conversation intersects is because at the end of the day, information is information and the universe is built on a Yang Yang thing that is replies to everybody.

SPEAKER_02

02:45:39 - 02:45:55

And we're slowly getting connected to that Oracle. Slowly getting sucked into that black hole to the borough. It will be inescapable. Right. Yeah. And those old billionaire dudes would love to be in control of all that.

SPEAKER_05

02:45:55 - 02:46:02

Look, what else are you to do with that type of money?

SPEAKER_02

02:46:02 - 02:46:08

That's the problem. Right. Just like, what's the next game? You know, what's the real game?

SPEAKER_05

02:46:08 - 02:46:58

As human beings, that's what our expectations are. Yeah. Yeah, what can you do? And at the end of the day, no matter how much money you amass, it's only about either. how you can help others. And if you do that, you're never going to be fulfilled either, because you're never going to help enough people. And that's going to be your whole thing. It's not being able to help enough people and just wishing that you can help more or feel in like everybody is a commodity and that's the way this things work and find out who I'm going to take advantage of and do so. And that's a major part of a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02

02:46:58 - 02:47:02

Like, another major pattern that human beings fall into time and time again.

SPEAKER_05

02:47:03 - 02:47:50

Well, you know, the Jewish people are powerful people on this planet and a lot of that has to do with the process that they have in stealing in their young people a certain amount of information and where with all in conversation that does not happen with other cultures, let's say. That exists only in a few places around the world, but there are always important, especially if you look at things from a non-religious point of view.

SPEAKER_02

02:47:50 - 02:48:08

Again, it goes back to information. I don't know. I mean, all cultures exchanging information with each other and the healthiest cultures or the ones that can both give the most freedom and allow people to innovate, helping ourselves and others.

SPEAKER_05

02:48:08 - 02:48:24

And the profit and the benefit. Yeah. That's part of the process, right? But that's no different than what everybody's religious story says.

SPEAKER_00

02:48:24 - 02:48:26

Like, what do you think ghosts are?

SPEAKER_05

02:48:30 - 02:48:44

You think that's real? I am. Interestingly, I don't, I don't believe in.

SPEAKER_03

02:48:44 - 02:48:56

Well. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

02:48:56 - 02:49:38

You either believe in the natural and the supernatural or you don't. And there are facets to everything. So if you don't believe in anything supernatural, then I would assume that means you don't believe in God either. It's like I was telling you earlier. I don't know how you could be a Christian and not believe in extraterrestrials. It's in your book. It says there was a war in heaven and God was fighting Satan and threw him down here. This is taking place.

SPEAKER_02

02:49:38 - 02:49:47

Also when you get to the Old Testament, Ezekiel's story. Ezekiel's story is essentially about a UFO encounter.

SPEAKER_05

02:49:47 - 02:50:15

I was really I was really frustrated as a black person that we weren't included more in the Bible. And so I was very, I felt very good when I found that some of the books of the Bible that were banned, were banned because they had black guys in them.

SPEAKER_02

02:50:17 - 02:50:27

Really what books of the bottle this is a new testament? Is this when they were you've heard about the book of Enoch?

SPEAKER_05

02:50:27 - 02:50:41

Yes So if you know that book it says that Noah was an albino

SPEAKER_02

02:50:45 - 02:51:10

I always don't wonder about like Noah's age. We talked about him being hundreds of years old and he tells everybody's story. But here's my thought. If human beings become more at one point in time, more technologically advanced than we are now, which is possible. We are on the verge of taking human life and expanding it way beyond 100 years. We're like real close to that. The people that are alive today will live to be 150.

SPEAKER_05

02:51:10 - 02:51:14

I'm not qualified to be having any of this conversation.

SPEAKER_02

02:51:14 - 02:51:17

I'm barely qualified because of just a lot of qualified.

SPEAKER_05

02:51:17 - 02:51:29

It's clever, but but understand. We know more now like like we know that the earth is not spinning now the same way that it wants us. We know that.

SPEAKER_02

02:51:31 - 02:51:37

We get slightly different, measureably different, right?

SPEAKER_05

02:51:37 - 02:51:58

I'm saying, the interesting thing is in all of those stories that we're talking about. It never says that they did anything different that got them to be in that position.

SPEAKER_01

02:51:58 - 02:51:59

It just says that they were

SPEAKER_05

02:52:01 - 02:52:24

blessed by God. So over there, this is at a time when people were dying of some things that today we would call it pretty easy. Yeah. No, but it was wiping out a whole group of people. But yeah, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_02

02:52:24 - 02:52:32

Well, it's fascinating because there's no way to go back there and see what the fuck was going on.

SPEAKER_05

02:52:32 - 02:52:59

Well, let's be fair though. They're not telling some wild story like if they say that a guy had that that's that this guy lived. six hundred years. They're also telling you about the three hundred and forty six children that he had and his fifteen hundred wives.

SPEAKER_04

02:52:59 - 02:53:00

Right.

SPEAKER_05

02:53:00 - 02:53:02

Right. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_04

02:53:02 - 02:53:03

Right. Hold on.

SPEAKER_05

02:53:03 - 02:53:08

Yeah. Our numbers to back up. Right.

SPEAKER_02

02:53:08 - 02:53:12

If human beings do live to be 500 years old, that's a real possibility.

SPEAKER_05

02:53:12 - 02:53:15

That's that will be the only way that you can show that.

SPEAKER_01

02:53:15 - 02:53:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

02:53:16 - 02:53:17

Is by.

SPEAKER_02

02:53:18 - 02:53:54

talking about all the wives and all the children and all the and if you do take what we know now in terms of like what they are capable of doing now with with human beings and lengthening telomeres there's a lot of different methodologies that they're using, that they believe will extend human life, use of metformin, NMN, hyperbaric chambers, there's a bunch of different things they're doing. And then there's CRISPR. When they're doing genetic engineering on kids now, and in China, they did a genetic engineering that would make the children more likely to be brilliant, more likely to be super intelligent.

SPEAKER_05

02:53:54 - 02:54:01

Sorry, sir. Why are you acting surprised by key components of the breeding process?

SPEAKER_02

02:54:03 - 02:54:05

Right. True. Right.

SPEAKER_05

02:54:05 - 02:54:40

If we're talking about, if we're talking about, if we're talking about freeions or if we're talking about German shepherds, Adobe Repensors, this is perfectly fine. Right. Right for me to say that thanks to these reasons, this dog is the sheer example of the confirmation of the breed and that his attributes are his intelligence and his loyalty and his. Right. Right. This is all part of the truth.

SPEAKER_02

02:54:40 - 02:54:48

It's a test tube for your kid. Why wouldn't you do it? That's what they're, I think they're going to start off with normal stuff.

SPEAKER_05

02:54:48 - 02:55:15

It all starts off as normal stuff because it's abnormal. So the first thing you're doing is okay. So we're in charge of like how could you not? How could you not? is more the question to be had. And that's why in that profession, they're allowed to do certain things and then tell you they're not going to do it no more. Yes. That's a kick component.

SPEAKER_00

02:55:15 - 02:55:18

Yeah. We're not going to do that anymore, Captain. We change our mind.

SPEAKER_02

02:55:22 - 02:55:50

Yeah. If they're telling you that there's no clones, the guy telling you's probably a fucking clone. At this point, I have no doubt that they've made human clones. They've made dog clones. You can get your dog clone. If your dog's gonna die, you can get the DNA from your dog, get a fucking puppy, and it'll be eerily similar to your dog. They think including some personality traits, which is just very bizarre, very pet cemetery. What if they can do that? Why can't they do that to people? They can't.

SPEAKER_05

02:55:50 - 02:56:13

Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Before this goes off the rail. It's too late. Because there is a God. The bar has been set. So insanely high for your clone. That you can't really get much usage out of it.

SPEAKER_02

02:56:14 - 02:56:19

Well, if there's a god and you have a clone, the clone doesn't have a soul because you don't have a soul to give that clone.

SPEAKER_05

02:56:19 - 02:57:13

That's... Or a personality. Or a certain thing's like a subconscious. Like, that's not available on the market. Lung's are. Hardest. Arms are. Right. So, conscious, you still don't have the understanding of that or how we're able to be as brilliant as we are in this world while only using a portion of the, there are those of us that know with the pioneer gland. What medicine says it's for, and what that would mean. And so those people's job is to make sure that they're fluoride in all the water. So your pineal gland will shrivel.

SPEAKER_02

02:57:13 - 02:57:27

It can also find it. That's all. The floor I think is wild. The fact that people aren't up in arms about them putting floored in your fucking drinking water is so crazy. It's so unnecessary.

SPEAKER_05

02:57:27 - 02:57:51

It's brilliant on the other end though. So what happened is the reason people have that relationship is They cleaned up the water the same time that they did that. I saw them saying so people at that time just remember the water not being that great and then all of a sudden the water is really great and it's got floor, right? And it's good for you.

SPEAKER_01

02:57:51 - 02:57:52

Good for your teeth.

SPEAKER_02

02:57:53 - 02:58:09

Right. Despite the fact that there's direct correlations between high levels of fluoride and drinking water and low IQs, they think it lowers people's IQs. I think it's terrible for you. Fluoride's dangerous. That's what's all toothpaste.

SPEAKER_05

02:58:09 - 02:58:22

Look, whatever you're saying, people won't find out about that for a hundred years and I'm not even going to be a hundred. And most of these decisions are made like that.

SPEAKER_02

02:58:22 - 02:58:38

Yeah. Well, that most people are terribly unaware of the Florida thing. When you bring out, they always say it's good for your teeth. Like, isn't, don't you brush your fucking teeth? Like, why do you need fluoride? Why do you need fluoride in your water? Are you sure that's what, why are your teeth aren't falling out?

SPEAKER_05

02:58:38 - 02:58:46

It's the fact that people don't understand that it's a toxic thing. You can't buy or purchase or handle it.

SPEAKER_03

02:58:46 - 02:58:48

It's in your drug drinking water.

SPEAKER_04

02:58:48 - 02:58:50

Like, it's not.

SPEAKER_02

02:58:50 - 02:58:53

Do you any good other than supposedly it's good for your teeth?

SPEAKER_05

02:58:53 - 02:59:38

Well, even if it was, Yeah, even if it was great for your teeth and your bones, you'd drink and it wouldn't be the way you'd be trying to get there. No, but, um, I don't even use flour toothpaste. I'm not going to let you take me where this conversation is going. Now that we went to Florida, I'm not going to cut no further than that because once you start having the what they'll do. Yeah. Yeah. You understand everything's a campaign and that's how you can approach everything is find out. Who's making money off this? The profit, how does this make sense?

SPEAKER_00

02:59:38 - 02:59:38

Why?

SPEAKER_02

02:59:38 - 02:59:55

Yeah. Somewhere right now, the fluoride plants are going, what the fuck are they talking about? Somebody just introduced legislation to try to move fluoride from some state from drinking water. People who some people are waking up to it, they're realizing like this is so unnecessary and obviously not good.

SPEAKER_05

02:59:56 - 03:00:08

Well, just understand that there are a far too many places that don't have clean waters. So, you know, like... Flint, Michigan.

SPEAKER_01

03:00:08 - 03:00:12

Still. Still. Still.

SPEAKER_02

03:00:12 - 03:00:18

Still. Still their waters fucked up. There's... What about that place on the other side? I don't know. And...

SPEAKER_05

03:00:24 - 03:01:08

Why? Because it's nobody wants it to be their fault. So nobody will take like. Right. You understand how? We're even the government. Not spending money for nine, not even. Like how? Like how are we allowed to have a foreign policy when we are violating the policies here. Right. You see what I'm saying? Like, what, what do you mean the immigrants are getting a check and we're putting them up in places that are what? You mean in the homeless people's face?

SPEAKER_04

03:01:08 - 03:01:10

Right in the homeless people's faces.

SPEAKER_05

03:01:10 - 03:01:13

Right in the homeless people's faces.

SPEAKER_02

03:01:13 - 03:01:14

Like, right?

SPEAKER_04

03:01:14 - 03:01:19

Let us show you what we could have done. Right.

SPEAKER_05

03:01:19 - 03:01:23

Wow. Crazy. That's not okay as a society.

SPEAKER_02

03:01:23 - 03:01:33

No. Well, did you see the scam that they were trying to do in New York City? Were they trying to give them debit cards with $10,000, but there's people getting cuts all along the way?

SPEAKER_05

03:01:34 - 03:02:00

That wasn't a scam. That was business that got uncovered. Yeah, and I'll prove it to you. When you go to, like, if you go to jail in New York, everybody goes to Rikers Island. So I wasn't Rikers Island. So if you got, if you got money on you when you go in, they give you a card when you leave and it's got money on it. You're around, like, systems are the system, like,

SPEAKER_02

03:02:04 - 03:02:19

Right. Yeah. There's a lot of money being made. Yeah. A lot of money being tossed around the system. And if you have a thing like an open immigration policy for sure, someone's figuring out how to profit off that. Someone's figuring out something about that.

SPEAKER_05

03:02:19 - 03:02:39

No, no, you're looking at that wrong way. There is no one who isn't profiting. everyone's profiting. I'm saying how ridiculous is it for you to think you have the greatest country in the world and then it not be a big deal to get there?

SPEAKER_01

03:02:39 - 03:02:45

Of course. Of course.

SPEAKER_05

03:02:45 - 03:02:48

This is the the the the B saying

SPEAKER_04

03:02:48 - 03:02:52

Why do they love our honey so much?

SPEAKER_02

03:02:52 - 03:03:01

Well, no one shocked at that. What people are shocked at is that there's no effort whatsoever to stop the stem of illegal immigration. That's what people are freaked out about.

SPEAKER_05

03:03:01 - 03:03:18

Like it seemed like we're not freaked out about the loss of bees. I am. If all the bees are going, we're going to die as a civilization because we didn't protect one of the most important insects in all egos. Right.

SPEAKER_02

03:03:18 - 03:03:31

So, you know, and they think cell phones signals were fucking them up too. Well, they imagine you're going to be forever, but also on someone that's just cell phone signals everywhere.

SPEAKER_05

03:03:31 - 03:03:53

And that's part of the purpose of religion in society is to try to get you away from exploring all of the things you could be doing with your time and put it somewhere that's healthier.

SPEAKER_01

03:03:53 - 03:03:54

Look what you mean.

SPEAKER_05

03:03:57 - 03:04:38

like principles of meditation and you know believing that you should be trying to do a good job and be a nice You know, because it's not really that profitable, right? But here we are talking about, you know, that's what really will help our country and civilization if we treated the downtrodden better. But the truth is, it's very low money in that. Yeah. It's very low money in that. The truth is that the immigrants that come over here are generally super qualified at something.

SPEAKER_00

03:04:39 - 03:04:44

Yeah, and motivated. And I mean, shit.

SPEAKER_05

03:04:44 - 03:05:38

And that's what it's made all immigration important. You know what I mean? Like the Mexican people were the second. Well, they were their own joke to the civilization of the fact that, yeah, you say, all they shouldn't come over, but anybody that comes over willing to work hard and succeed. Those are people you want of hard and they immediately help. Like you can look at the extremes, of course, but the benefit are astronomical and always have been since Panjia.

SPEAKER_02

03:05:39 - 03:06:20

Yeah, the benefit to great. The side effects are crime. And that's a gift to be careful of. Especially when you got organized crimes coming in to sell fentanyl. You got a lot of that. That's a wild one because that's that's propped up by laws. That's propped up by our drug laws. And that puts you in a real complicated situation. Do you make drugs legal? Everything? Everything legal. The problem is you're going to get a bunch of people to get addicted to drugs. It probably wouldn't without that. And then you have to say, is that just the part of the process? We have to learn to deal with this new thing that's everywhere. And then readily available. And how many people are going to try it just because it's legal? Probably quite a few. But at least how many people are not going to die for fentanyl poisoning because they're going to get pure stuff. Probably a lot.

SPEAKER_05

03:06:25 - 03:07:07

Yeah, that, well, talking fentanyl in specific, like it's a very difficult conversation to have because most of the things that we will all agree are terrible drugs aren't being used at the hospital. So until that part kids so take it like this is a bad look all the way around but the bar has been set so high like everything that's called a drug nowadays is terrible like there's been no evolution like yaks

SPEAKER_02

03:07:08 - 03:07:23

Well, that's part of the problem with keeping drugs illegal, and especially psychedelic drugs since 1970. It's like, stymied human evolution, stymied research, stymied growth. What did it? Keeping drugs illegal, keeping psychedelic drugs illegal.

SPEAKER_05

03:07:23 - 03:07:35

Look, if there was a guy, then he put a failsafe on the drug so that you would have a

SPEAKER_02

03:07:36 - 03:07:42

barrier. And that's Richard Nixon. That's that's Odean. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_05

03:07:42 - 03:08:36

Those drugs right. So really was happening is you're like okay. Whatever you're on. Do it to your dead. Yeah, so you know. um statistically that's gonna happen you gonna lose some people but the people that's not doing it they're not gonna start doing it right they're gonna learn from the people who died like you learned not eat poisons plants you would think but if that were true nobody in the world whatever do heroin like if you've ever seen somebody kick it like right you would never do it like it doesn't matter how it makes you feel if the end result is defecating and urinating in a puddle that you're laying in while being naked and being like, you know, like, true. You would just call that poisonous.

SPEAKER_02

03:08:36 - 03:08:52

If you were smart, yeah, you would learn. You would learn from other people doing it. And that's the things like we're reluctant to allow that factor into people's lives, but kind of have with a lot of other factors.

SPEAKER_05

03:08:52 - 03:08:59

Well, a lot of these things were used sparingly and in context as well.

SPEAKER_02

03:08:59 - 03:09:05

So particularly on psychedelics, there were used in a ritualistic way.

SPEAKER_05

03:09:05 - 03:09:11

But that's like us saying, you know, in that cooking show, they were used in herbs and spices.

SPEAKER_04

03:09:13 - 03:09:15

Like, yeah, that goes with it. Right. Like, right.

SPEAKER_05

03:09:15 - 03:09:54

If somebody tells you that when they used to come through with the ball and the smoke and the incense and at one point, it was marijuana. Right. Understand that it was setting the mood of the room. Like, you know what I mean? Like. That's how you know there is an occult. How could there not be? There's another side to everything, um, universally. So, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

03:09:54 - 03:09:55

I must have been a wild time in church.

SPEAKER_02

03:09:55 - 03:10:03

Everybody just got contact high. People walking down the aisles with balls filled with marijuana smoke.

SPEAKER_05

03:10:03 - 03:10:26

Well, it understand this is not being consistently done. This is being done. You know what I mean? And so there's no such thing as you're getting too much of it. You're not getting enough to do anything except relax and relaxes what you shouldn't be doing as we discuss what we're discussing.

SPEAKER_01

03:10:26 - 03:10:29

Yeah, it'll humble you a little. Call me down a little.

SPEAKER_05

03:10:29 - 03:11:51

It'll take the edge off. You're not getting enough to have the munchies. And if you do, we'll probably have a little something for, yeah, I don't know. But I'm saying all throughout history. people have been searching for this connection. And we don't have historically any evidence of any groups of people doing it, doing something for no reason. Right. There was a element to this. So when we have the stories of We went in this cave and crazy shit was down there and like we now know that a lot of that existed like the air is not the same down there like it might have been a poisonous gas in there and right now that you know These were things that were not known then so It's just fascinating to see the stories where we are now and to see how advanced they were on these particular subjects. And that time we did out the BS story is really well.

SPEAKER_02

03:11:51 - 03:12:02

Yeah, there's probably something to all of them. There's probably something to all stories from all cultures. And the reason why they would want to tell them over and over again.

SPEAKER_05

03:12:02 - 03:13:00

One of the criteria for it to last over time. That's what I understood when I broke the internet. Let me see if you know. Like, when you start studying quotes and where great quotes come from, you start getting these people that are known for their great quotes, right? But the further you go back, you see who really said it first, you know what I mean? And that's what brings it full circle to that. Emerald Tablet, I was telling you about, right? Because 70% of it is something you've heard somewhere else.

SPEAKER_01

03:13:00 - 03:13:02

Well, I can't wait to read it.

SPEAKER_05

03:13:02 - 03:13:17

I wasn't even aware of it, but it totally makes sense. Like there are things in it that are verbatim to the Bible verbatim to the Quran, like verbatim to

SPEAKER_01

03:13:21 - 03:13:23

I'm gonna read it.

SPEAKER_02

03:13:23 - 03:14:53

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