Transcript for #1085 - Kyle Kulinski

Boom, and we're live. Hello, Kyle. Hello, Joe, Ryan.

Well, you're a youngest fellow, so maybe a suit would give you more of an air of a composure or a authority perhaps.

It's a good move. It's very smart move. I watched you had some suits made. I had to do this function for one of my kid's schools and I had to go to this function we had to wear nice clothes it's like a dress up thing and I don't really have nice clothes nothing that like fits and so I had to have something made so now I've been wearing it when I go on special dates with Mrs. Rogan so it's like it's a suit like this it's a nice suit jacket and tailored the whole deal fits me

I feel like a serious person. If I dress like this, like a hoodie in a t-shirt, I feel like a shrub. I feel like a dork.

But you have a short time and a short time. I might have sweat.

I mean sometimes I'll do the whole thing and look nice, but usually I'm just being lazy and well guy Richard was on the podcast and he made a very good statement in defense of the suit. It was a really interesting sort of testimony in defense of the suit in the pocket square. He's a big believer of the pocket square, which I think is preposterous. Yeah, that's a little too far. I'm with you, but it

Oh, yeah, like Cavaricis. I don't know what that is. Is that Cavaricis? Cavaricis was something that we used to wear. I'm dating myself. This is like in the, early nineties late eighties early nineties. It was like they were tight to like your your pelvic region and then they would flare up when I got past like you see hammer pants So it's terrible. Yeah, but those didn't really make it, right? And then they're what, but they did make it in the gym. Like if you go to the gym, there's still guys who wear these kind of sweatpants. That's right. They're like these kind of puffy sweatpants. And they're usually juiced out of their minds, right? And they're like, they're so big.

They probably wear those pants because there it is. There's cavalry cheese. Oh my god. I used to wear those. Try to get laid. You wear whatever you could. Yes. That's the opposite of trying to get laid. Not in those days. Back in those days. Like people didn't know any better. Right.

Like people didn't know where they came from? No. We found out on the podcast. It came from syphilis. Yes, the whole wig thing came out of royalty. These royals had syphilis. What was the whole story? It was about the term big wig. And it was, who were the people? Was it Dutch, Dutch kings? Who are the kings? See, we could find that story. Because it's a fascinating story. What it was was there is these, I think they were brothers. And they had syphilis. They were just banging everybody. Yeah, why did people wear powdered wigs? And it all came from a hair loss that these guys would have. There it goes. The, the proof story begins like many others with syphilis. By 15A, the STD had become the worst epidemic to strike Europe since the black death, according to William Clause, uh, C-L-O-W-E-S. I would say either one. Close, I'd say. An infinite multitude of syphilis patients clogged London's hospitals and more filtered in each day. With that antibiotics, victims face the full brunt of the disease. Open source, nasty rashes, blindness, dementia, and patchy hair loss. Baldness swept the land.

Well, it just became a thing because these scroll down so it'll tell you like who the people were that did it. Yeah. So, you went a little too far. Yeah. And so, syphilis outbreak sparked a surge of witchmaking, wigmaking, victims hit their baldness, blah, blah, blah, blah. Louis XIV was only 17 when his mom started thinning, worried that his baldness would hurt his reputation, Louis hired 48 wig makers to save his image. Five years later, the King of England, Louis's cousin, Charles II, did the same thing when his hair started to gray. Both men likely had syphilis. Cordiers, how do you say that? Cordiers? And other aristocrats immediately copied the two kings. They sported wigs and the style trickled down to the upper middle class. Europe's newest fat was born. And so that's where it came from. So the whole powdered wigs with people of distinction in court, all that shit came from syphilis. This episode is brought to you by Robin Hood. You want financial security for you and your family? Well, you gotta make it happen. The world doesn't owe you a living and that's how I've always approached my finances and you can too with Robin Hood. Robin Hood pioneered commission-free stock trading over a decade ago, and they continued to offer innovative products to help you maximize your money's potential. With over 23 million funded customers, Robin Hood is helping people build a better financial future. Robin Hood gives you complete autonomy to make investments to pursue your future goals, whatever they are. Maybe you want to look towards investing for your family's future, investing for retirement, or even a vacation to the Bahamas. We all have some bucket list items to cross off and Robinhood has tools to help you pursue them. Investing a small amount now could make a big difference 30 years down the road. Take control of your financial future with Robinhood. Download the app or visit Robinhood.com to learn more. Disclosure, investing involves risk and loss of principle is possible. Returns are not guaranteed. Other fees may apply. Robin Hood Financial LLC, member SIPC, is a registered broker dealer. This episode is brought to you by Zippercruiter. Look, patience is good at all, but if you're just sitting around waiting for everything good to come your way, well, you're going to be disappointed and you're going to miss out on some amazing opportunities like your dream vacation. You have to work. Save that money and actually plan it out. It's never going to happen if you just sit on your couch at home thinking about it. And the same applies to your company. You don't want to miss out on hiring the best people for your team. And luckily there's an easy solution. that you can use. It's ZipperCuter. Try it for free right now at zippercuter.com slash rogan. They'll find you qualified people for your role quickly. And once you find someone you like, ZipperCuter can help put you at the front of the pack. Just use their pre-written invite to apply message to connect with your favorite candidates ASAP. So, let ZipperCruiter give you the hiring hustle that you need. See why, four out of five employers who post on ZipperCruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Just go to zippercruiter.com slash rogan to try it for free. Again, that ZipperCruiter.com slash rogan. ZipperCruiter. smartest way to hire. Well, it's like most things.

Well, I mean, think about how much cultural change is taking place in our society just over the last few years. Sure. You mean, that words that were commonplace are now completely unacceptable. You know, styles of behavior and methods of expression are being criticized and critiqued this really radical way. And I think it's good. Ultimately, I think there's a lot of back to what I'd say it's good but the the sentiment is good you know I think the reaction and some of the overreaction like there's a spectrum right there's there's always going to be like did you see the there was something that came out yesterday from Portland State University where Peter Bagozian and James DeMor, the Google memo guy and Heather Heing. She was a professor at Evergreen State. I remember with the Jordan Peterson master and she was actually on my podcast last week with her husband, Brett Weinstein. one's done can't say one.

No, no, that's Lindsey. Okay, Lindsey something. Yeah, sure. She was in a different university. Okay, Laurier. in Canada, in Canada, in Canada, another university in Canada. This is in Portland. Anyway, so in the middle of this conversation in Heather, who is a, she's a biologist and she starts going over the biology of the differences between males and females that are just undeniable. And these kids get up and they start yelling that this is bullshit and fuck you and power to the people, all this crazy shit and then they tip over the sound system and They're the most hilarious, classical, liberal, progressive lefties. Green hair, the guy has this poofy afro, and he's like, you know, we don't tolerate Nazis, man. Like, this fucking Nazis is a biologist, you piece of shit.

Right, but isn't the problem with polls is when you ask people about it, you're not asking them if they're informed. You're just asking them. Yeah, you're just asking their opinion on it. Right. What I was saying is about the left versus the right is that the real problem is anybody can be on either. So you're going to get these people that are going to disrupt this hetherhine, you know, lecture on biology from an informed scientific perspective and like fuck this man's a patriarchy, you're going to get that. But you're also going to get people like yourself. You're also going to get people that are aware of the issues and educated and are debating this in a very public way and trying to figure out what's the best possible solution to these things. The problem is anytime you have a group, whether it's pick the group, gun owners, vegans, what are anybody can fucking join, man? Sure. And as soon as anybody can join, you can't look at like the worst case in areas, the green hair dork that kicks over the microphone because they don't like the idea that Heather is speaking logically about biology. Like, no, you have to look at like the whole thing. Sure. And we don't like to do that. We like to point at the green hair dork and say, hey, liberals, there's your left.

Well, that's good enough. I mean, I think open conversations are critical. And I also, I mean, this is going to probably be unpopular. I don't think the way to do it is in front of a large group of people. I think you open yourself up to a lot of grandstanding, a lot of saying things just for applause breaks, a lot of bullshit. changes the nature of the conversation because it becomes theater you're doing this thing in front of all these people and you can hear a lot of these times people say things like I'm a comic so I know when someone's saying things for reaction right there's a way you do it when you say it like this and that's what we want and everybody goes Yeah, you do not, you do not talk like that when it's just you in a person. When it's just you in a person, you are just alone with your ideas. And I think that is the way a guy like Ben Shapiro and you know, whoever you want on the left should have a discussion.

Yeah, and I think that's actually very important for both sides to do. Like when there's something on your side that you disagree with, you should be honest about it. It's even saying that that there's a side that there's sides, that there's our side versus their side. We're, I think we're so inherently tribal, that we should resist any temptation whatsoever to form teams, especially about critical issues, like really important social issues, really important economic issues, really important civil rights issues. These are just things that we should just talk about without looking at them in terms of, oh, the left wants this, so I oppose it, or the right wants this, so I have to figure out ways to mock it.

I agree with that. We're talking about this before the podcast that, like, what I try to do is have conversations with everyone. I try to have conversations with nutty people, like Alex Jones. I try to have conversations with rational people, like Sam Harris. I try to have conversations with all kinds of people, but without fail. Every time I have a left-wing person on, I'm some cook Left wing yeah, you know, it's gonna happen and anytime I have a right wing person on I'm some alt right Nazi apologists It's like this weird inclination we have to try to label and categorize people and I try to resist those labels as much as humanly possible

You know what I mean? I have no desire to do that. I don't know. I mean, look, I've had a lot of arguments in my life, and I don't like them. I don't think they're beneficial. I mean, I think debate is good, but every time I've ever been into an argument with someone, like a real argument, I always call out of it feeling gross. Yeah. Yeah, there are times in life where arguments are necessary. There's times in life where you're just faced with aggression or conflict and you have to do something about, you have to meet it head on. There are times in life like that. But whenever you can avoid that, do. And I think a lot of what arguments are and I've failed at this in my life many times. But a lot of what arguments are is the way you've reacted to the thoughts and the expression that another person has. And if you just reacted a different way or approached in a different manner, or took it into consideration a little bit more before you responded, I think the conversation could have gone another way. And I think I'm learning how to do that more and more as I get better at podcasting, at better at conversations, learning how to just settle someone down and learning how to genuinely be a nice person. So I don't want to like insult anybody. I don't want to be in a disagreement with someone. I want to discuss ideas.

He was trying to tell me what I was saying. Right. And I was very clear in all, okay, how do I say this? I don't think Brian is a bad guy. I don't think his brain works correctly. I'm being honest. I think there's a real problem there. And when he does these science these videos. He sounds like a strip club DJ. Do you know what I mean?

There's a way that that thing is done by people that are trying to achieve a desired result. Like, there's not that they're themselves talking about a very specific thing. It's that they are trying to put on an air of intellectual authority. And you know, he talks of himself as a science writer, whatever that is. Like I don't hate that guy. I'm not mad at him. The whole thing was kind of foolish and it was very damaging to him and he won up going to jail afterwards. Not really. Yeah, not because of that, but because of something that he did, he was involved some sort of scam with, was it Amazon or Google? eBay, that's right. He was involved in some sort of a scam where he had embedded cookies, you'd go to his side, it made it look like when you were buying things online that you'd gone through his site first. When, in fact, you had, there was just a cookie that was embedded, something, something along those lines. Whatever it was, it was illegal and you want to go into jail. So, and even his defense of that, it's like, I think there's something wrong there. I don't know what that something is. Well, there's a, there's a spark plug that's not screwed in all the way. There's something wrong.

I did. I do pretty good job. People tell me that. Voice is a little off, but the matter is excellent. So how about the fucking thing he did recently where he said that he would gone into the school. When the school shooting was going on, he would have run in there, even if you didn't have a gun.

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Yeah, so he's a girl. That was isn't that a scene in The dead zone? Yes. Didn't see the dead zone. Well, in the book, in fact, the guy uses someone to shield him from a shooter. And that's what keeps that guy from ever becoming president. So it keeps him from pressing the button because the guy was going to become president and he was going to launch a nuclear assault nuclear war. And this guy that was Christopher Walken was Christopher Walken was, right? Thanks so. he realized by touching this guy's hand, this guy was gonna do this. And so there was like some scenario that took place where someone was trying to shoot him, and he used someone else to shield him from the bullet, and that's what prevented him from ever becoming president.

Yeah, it's a movie and it's also a book by Stephen King. I've read the book and I saw the movie. I'm trying to remember, was it walking? Yeah. Fuck, that's right, that's right, young walking. Look at that handsome face bastard. It was a weird looking dude. Ah, where does it get? But that's what's cool about him. It's great movie though. Fun. Might not be great anymore. It might be one of those movies like I always told people watch altered states. It's amazing. And then I watched it. There are certain things age so bad.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, one of the best examples I think is Stephen Colbert, saying that President Trump uses his mouth as Putin's co-coilster, just set it on, you know, whatever network TV or cable, whatever the fuck you're doing. You've managed Johnny Carson doing that. I mean, go back to the old Ed Sullivan show. You know, we're Jackie Mason got banned for life because it looked like he gave the finger. He did this thing. All right. Like, you know, this is what I do. I'm Jackie Mason and he says he never even gave him the finger, but he was accused of giving someone the finger and that was it. He was banned.

Well, they would only frame him from the waist up. They wouldn't show all that fuck motion. That's too much fuck. Why? What Elvis? Come on, man.

Like, I don't get what it is about different times. I mean, they were just a few generations away from the powdered wigs.

100% I have a bunch of framed Lenny Bruce posters in my house. Yeah, I think he is one of the most important figures in the history of pop culture because he was way ahead of his time. You know, just way way ahead of his time. He had jokes back then that I saw people stealing in the 1980s. Wow. Yeah. I don't even know if they were stealing it. I should free-phrase that. I think they might have had parallel thinking. One of the jokes was about gay people that in certain places being gay and like, Sodomy is actually, I think Sodomy is still technically illegal in some places. In some states, I think, yeah, somewhere. Like Mississippi or some shit. Which includes going down on somebody by the way. I know. So blow jobs are technically illegal in some places here in Sodomy. That's fucking hilarious, right? But who's my point? Um, that, oh, so his joke was that he was dig this man. If you're gay, he goes, uh, they put you in jail with a bunch of men who want to sex with you.

That's a fucking joke that would work today. If nobody figured that out today and it didn't exist and someone just said that on stage today, you know, there's a lot of those though that people like, they don't realize it's been said before because it just seems like that happens.

It's unavoidable especially with like obvious points like when I I started out in Boston doing stand up who we're obviously right next to New Hampshire and New Hampshire's state motto on their license plate is live freer die and I said yeah, those plates are made by prisoners How fucked up is that? And I'm sure. I am absolutely positive other people thought that up as well. Because that's always been the thing, right? Like people would make fun of prisoners would make license plates. Like it was like in movies. Like yeah, you're gonna go make license plates. Like that's what happened. You know, we'll then put the cuffs on them. You know, yeah, now you'll be making license plates. Like for some reason, like being in prison was associated with making license plates.

Oh fuck yeah, we were just talking about that with the fires. They were paying those guys a dollar a day to risk their life in the Santa Barbara fires. Fuck man. How is that allowed? Hey, maybe give me a month off, you know, or a year off or whatever, you know, maybe if you did, you're not a dangerous criminal, like maybe did something stupid, you know, some petty theft or something like that, and you know, look, look, I'll go out there and fuck the fire, but you gotta, you gotta give me some sort of a break off my sentence. Nope, we're gonna give you a dollar a day.

I wish I did. I mean, I'm sure good behavior reduces sentences. I'm sure that probably does something. But the idea that they could pay you a dollar a day to fight a fire. Yeah, crazy. Or a dollar an hour or whatever the fuck the actual number was.

Yeah, I don't necessarily think the punishment by itself helps anybody. I mean, if you take a guy and you lock him in a cell and he's in that little tiny cell until his body stops working and he dies, is that helping anybody? I mean, who is that helping?

I get it, too. I get it, too. But I mean, why? Look, look at a Ted Bundy character or someone along those lines. It's just indefensible, right? Some serial killer psychopath. What do you do? Fucking kill him. Just tell me, Dan, how do you feel about the death healthy right now? Kill him. Just come on, man. He doesn't have time in the world to fix an edgain or who is the fucking clown. William Gacy. This clown guy who killed all those kids and buried him in his backyard. Yeah, there's some people. Is that Cleveland somewhere in Ohio? You're your place, buddy.

Why say you're a place I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to Jamie for people just listening. Why is he fucking with Kyle? I'm saying he's involved with the clown. Just know how I might not have even been Ohio. Might have been Pittsburgh somewhere dark in cloudy.

You know, maybe with you a hundred percent, but is it any better to have those people locked up in a cage for the rest of their life to their body sucks working?

You know what I mean? I mean, I don't know if it's better to kill the wrong people or to keep the wrong people locked in a cage suffering for the rest of their life. Where did William Gacy live? John Wayne Gacy was John Wayne Chicago.

I didn't know that. Yeah, why did I say William Gacy? I'm thinking, will you macy? I got from shameless. I'm all fucked up. Yeah, well, we were talking about something before the podcast and I think uh... this is i think this is really the future whether it's in our lifetimes are our children's lifetimes but i think that they're going to be able to read minds i think it's not we're not far away from that we're gonna really be able to know the actual contents of your thoughts whether you really did murder a bunch of kids and burry them in your backyard we're gonna know and until then we're dealing with a bunch of really big fucking problems one of the biggest problems is people's memories People's memories are so bad. They're so bad. So when you have eyewitness testimony and you can convict people wrongly, which happens every day and they think they're right. They think they really do believe they're right. They really believe it. That's a fucking problem, man. That's just the giant problem is the human memory is incredibly flawed and when someone's life is on the line and, you know, you're going to convict the guy who didn't do anything. He just looks kind of like what you remember this person who murdered that guy looks like.

they're already spying on absolutely everybody in the country they collect all of our metadata and stored it's a multi-billion dollar facility in Utah and then like there's no doubt that all this technology is going to be used against us you know what I mean well it certainly can be if they choose to like if you become a guy like a uh... you know like julian sands or a share who leaks something and then they go hey let's go pull up kyle's uh... text message records oh look he looks cross-dressing for the rest of the people's mouths, whatever it is, they can, and then they could leak that to whatever media people that they're in bed with, there's just a lot of shit that they can get away with.

Right. Well, he was actually going after brothel.

Yeah, that's fucked up. He was ridiculous. It's like, it's like, I mean, it doesn't make any sense that he thought that he could get away with that, but The real problem with that guy is that guy was an interesting politician. Yeah, he really did have some really good points a lot like a weiner Well, weiner is kind of interesting in that way, too. He had some really good points. He's a great speaker, but it's also free.

I mean, well, you want to finish it though. I watched part of it and then I just got bored.

I feel so bad for his wife. Sending dick pics while he was holding his kid. He was holding his kid sending pictures of him with his kid in his arms of his boner.

What's this what I said? That's why I said on the podcast. And I'm saying right now, I think he's in jail right now, right? So you don't know, he's in jail. I don't know. I'm going to jail. Andrew, you're a comic. You just don't know it. You just don't know it. A guarantee he's a comic. He just never did it. And he just went into politics and, you know, he's a real good speaker. He's kind of a funny guy.

Why is that pathetic though? That's so some options. Well, you care about the guy.

Yeah, but that's okay. But I think there's a real problem that people have with avoiding emotions. You know, I was too vulnerable in front of people. I didn't know. That's a matter.

You definitely get a rush. There's no doubt about it. You crush. You get a rush. Yeah. You get a, well, it's a different rush in different size places. Like there's more of a surreal thing. When you get a, there's an area you get to like around 5,000, 6000 people. It gets real weird, man. It gets fucking weird. That gets weird. Like almost like you are, you just, uh, You're doing a show then more than you're connecting with people. Where's you going to come to the comedy store tonight? That's an intimate place. That's 150 people. That's tight, little small room. And that's like you're there. You're there with the people. It's different. That's a rush too though. It's a different rush. It's all a rush. But your responsibility to the material and the delivery sort of overrides the rush because you can't really get caught up in it. Wow, this is amazing because you have to be thinking about the timing. You have to be tuned in to exactly what you're thinking about. You can't be thinking about, oh, this is getting a lot of great laughs. You have to honestly be thinking about the actual subject. fucking know what you're thinking about, man. H weird, isn't it? Well, I think it's a type of hypnosis. I think, and I don't mean hypnosis like you trick the people into doing something, but I mean that like you mind meld with the audience in some sort of a weird way.

It's like work with Spielberg. It's interesting. Steven is an amazing director. It's just what he does. Yeah. It's so weird. Also, you would be like the talk show host, so you'd be sitting there. And I'd be sitting there. Yeah, yeah, we'd be like this. Which is weird. And I'd be turning sideways facing you. I mean, it's so it's so followed leader copycat because this is just the way they did it with Jack PAR. Right. Back in the fucking 1800s, whatever the fuck that was. Right. And they go from there. to Jimmy Kimmo, who does it the same way.

This makes sense. I mean, you could kind of do this conversation in front of a large group of people. I mean, a lot of people do do live podcasts. Yeah, I feel like it's a little different though.

100% yeah yeah you do and sometimes it's great like I've done some live ones before with friends and it's great and we did the end of the world podcast we did a live podcast from the comedy store at the night of the election and during the election we realized the Trump we were saying to see another world no matter who wins because you're right and but when Trump won, I mean, Bill Burr was just on fire in front of this fucking, that guy's smart man, Bill Burr's smart. Not just smart, but that he had material about this that was just perfect and he just was crushing and there was a panel of like six other comics we're all just laughing and talking shit there was a lot of fun and it worked. That worked. That's one of the rare times it worked, but the way we did it was We had a chair set up or a table set up and then we all sat facing the audience and just talked, you know, like a regular podcast, but in front of a live crowd and then someone would come out like Brian Henning and would come out and give us the updates. Trump is ahead by 18 points.

I thought it was entirely possible. I thought it was entirely possible. I didn't see it coming. I felt like everybody was so convinced that Hillary was going to win. I just felt like that was probably what was going to happen.

And it was admitted by her husband that she had fallen down and cracked her head open and had its pretty severe brain injury that she took, took more than six months for her to recover. According to Bill, we saw her fainting all the time. I mean, she, she, yeah, that was creepy at the 9-11 thing. That's not good. She's just, and they were, oh, she had the flu. I've had the flu. I don't fall asleep while I'm standing up. I mean, that shit ain't good. That's not good. And that was just one thing. The other thing is, she's a disingenuous person. When the whole Komi thing with the FBI, when there was a video that came out where he explained what the charges were and what they had found about the emails and then she explained the version of it, she's just not honest. Yeah. Then it was the whole gay marriage thing. She didn't support gay marriage to 2013. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. That's crazy. And then here's the other thing. She's a woman. There's a lot of sexists. There's a lot of people that didn't want a woman to be president period, especially not a woman that could point to all these flaws. Poor health, liar, dishonest, in bed with Wall Street, gets paid by banks. Hundreds of thousand dollars won't release the transcripts. Clinton Foundation seems kind of shady. There's so many different things that were against.

But the people who were that were into that were telling her that that was going to be her key to victory. We're going to make history.

Yeah

Don't you think that the parties themselves, there's a giant issue with the momentum behind them, the lobbyists, the special interest groups, the embedded just sort of ecosystem that they both carry with them for someone new to step in and sort of represent the actual people like yourself that have this very clear view. Well, that's why they have so many people that they're beholden to by the time they get into a position where they can even run for president, they've all been vetted and checked.

But if the problem comes long as that successful politician, someone who could actually possibly win, they do take corporate pack money, but they're a better alternative than say, you know, pants, pants, pants, to be persistent. After, then you go, okay, we got to choose the lesser of two evils. That's essentially what we did with Hillary. Right. That's right. And I didn't do that weird position where, yeah, she's kind of corrupt, but look, she's going to be a historic, she's a woman, she's infinitely more qualified than him.

he's the most popular by a long shot and the reason is there are even many people on the right who look at him and go you know what i don't agree with them on abortion i don't agree with him on this or that but i trust the guy and i think he's fighting for me well there's definitely that i mean there's he's he's a guy that really has a clean record in terms of like the money that he's taken that alone is very unique and that alone makes him stand out from the other people that were running for president when you look at the future though, like who other than him and the problem with him is he's he's another one. He's not a good health.

It's also, well, there's people that are his age that are in very good shape.

Jamie, can you check that? My friend, Aaron Snyder, had a podcast the other day with a gentleman who's 78 years old who goes on backpacks solo, elk hunts. And he rides holy mountain bikes and exercises and does all this shit like there are people out there that are his age that take care of their body. The problem with Bernie, 76. 76. Okay. He's ahead. Sit somewhere in the middle of his sternum. He's got like pot. He's going to dump their posture. He's like, he looks like a slumpy, sort of unhealthy person doesn't. He doesn't. And I know that's not important. But it is kind of important to people. You want someone to do it.

I like the name. He has risen. He's risen through the rain. Well, he's a badass. He's a badass. He's a badass.

There you go, president's thirty five. There you go. That's so young. I was retarded when I was thirty five. I'm retarded now and I'm thirty five. I was so fucking stupid when I was 35. How can you allow people to be 35 years old and run for president? Yeah, that's so crazy. Yeah.

Who's a weird names. Let me see this Roe County person first. Let me see what they look like. I'm going to give him the sniff test. This is how Americans do it. They look at a man.

Let me go with the Rokana person first. Sure. Yeah.

R-O-K-H-A-N-N-A. That's one name. There you go. That can't be one name. No, it's not to his first name.

What? R-O is his first name. So come here. Fuck out of here with that. Let me see what he looks like.

I'm not your confusing. Silicon Valley. I think I say Silicon. I don't know if that's right, though. Well, yeah, he, uh, that fucking name. I don't know about that name, but then again, let's say no bomb. We say no bomb. I got elected president. We throw the name from the window. We scrutinize this fellow. Hmm. Well, we got a lot of good things here going. First of all, the diversity factor is high. That's off the chart.

I'm gonna do that. I'm fired up, ready for Roe. Dude, okay, I need you, I need you to just rethink your life.

Doesn't it? A little bit. Sorry, Mario. No offense. Is that him with Ted Kennedy down there in the lower right hand corner? Yeah, but I think that's just that about split-screen. Oh, no.

I'm sorry whoever that person is but in the tiny screen it did look like Ted Kennedy before you build up Yeah, okay, so this guy show him Tulsi Gavin and see so he's a congressman in California. Yes.

Yeah, yeah Tulsi a T U L S O S I one of the things that's being thought of as a possible Democratic candidate Well, a lot of people are talking right now about not a million I'll tell you who's going to run 2020 Oprah

Thanks. I like two things.

Let me see, let me close you there. Make her a little larger.

She's a beautiful woman. I mean, is America ready for a beautiful woman to run for president with all her weapons.

And I believe you. Yeah.

So I think she also goes to spin class. Also does box jumps. But 20 to the military? She was, yes, interesting. That's a good. That's a positive. She got a lot of those little colored things on our shirt.

You know, we also had a lot of those colored things on a shirt. El Ron Hubbard. Remember? Let's see. That guy was fucking quiet. I don't think his were legit though. I'm going to go on with him. Yeah, she looks, uh, she looks good.

Yes. How can he do that?

I don't know, man. She might win. No, she's not. How about fucking NBC who have the doorcaze that was running the NBC Twitter that was saying our president Like they about over that? Yeah. I don't know. When Oprah gave that speech. Oh, that was it. The Golden Globes. She gave this big giant. Yeah. Yeah.

Let her talk.

Clueless actress, Stacy Dash, is running for Congress. Oh, funny. Wait. And Stacy Dash is like a Republican. She's like a hard part. She's like a hard part. She's like a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part. She's a hard part.

So, Oprah's not not right. I'm telling you. I'm telling you.

Is he like 34?

I mean, how goofy is he?

Someone wants lambs to starve to death.

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I don't think they want that scrutiny. Like, yeah, a lot of shit comes out. Yeah, I mean, think about who Trump was, pre-election, and Trump is now. Yeah. Before the election, he was kind of lovable. He's like this lovable, ego maniac, weirdo guy. He had a role of the election. Well, you know, let me take that back because there was all that birth or shit. It was pretty wacky. But pre-birth or shit.

I'm like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'm the don, I'm like a real estate. It was like a bigger than life character, large hair, big fucking name on the buildings, gold, gold lettering everywhere, gold bathroom, gold toilet paper. Like, you're so silly.

Yeah, I don't think he does know that. Well, he's old, man, with old people. That was like, someone said it best, and it's one of my favorite quotes about Trump, that he is what a poor person imagines a rich person would be like.

Yeah, like Trump is that you grill Paul Wallstein Showing all your rings. You're in front of your Lamborghini, bunch of girls shaking their booty in front of you. How did girls ever become a thing? How did they not become a thing? Why don't they have one? That's a real question. We were going to get one. Paul has put everything into us. We're going to hook us up.

I don't think so. I'm doing a good job with Fanny Pax though. I'm telling you that. Oh, sales are up. Sales are up.

I saw that. Yeah. I saw that.

Somebody had a really funny joke. I forget who it was. I wish I could give them credit. But it was something along the lines of, that's the type of black guy that's unthreading to white people. The type of black guy that wears a cell phone holder or the outside. It was buckle clip cell phone holders.

Don't reach for it. Yeah, don't reach for anything. Yeah, the the grill thing. I don't know. I think a gold tooth would be kind of fly. Like one, maybe a thing or a role thing.

Well, it's like that Jay-Z song 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one. You know, if you grew up with holes and your zapatos, you'd celebrate the minute you were having dough, right? So critics, you can kiss the whole asshole.

It's a giant part of the culture. I mean, and even in the more reserved people like Nas, like who's like a more lyrical artist type character, father was a jazz musician. Sure. He drives Mercedes and his pictures in front of the nice things. It's just a part of the whole culture. Like you've got to have nice shit. You can't be living a log cabin spitting out rap music. Nobody wants to hear like anybody from like what's that show? Life below zero the the show where they're all in Alaska last year.

You know what I mean? It's not going to happen. No one's going to listen to a fisherman rap. Like a dude who's like, you're mad. Sam and fishing. Like a commercial like one of those dudes from Deadliest Catch. If one of those guys like when they're, you can't, can't be a rapper. He's smell like fish. You got to be clean. You have to have gold teeth or something. You have to have a grill. That's a, is Paul Wall.

It looks good.

Um, I think it's just trimmed. Why do you think it's fake? Because it looks too good. It looks like, I mean, I'm not, I'm not hating because I'm like a hater.

Um, I don't know.

Your hair started going great. 18. Really?

I'm not sure, but it's the work for yourself is a little difficult though, right? Like not having a steady paycheck where you have to, and you were also involved in the YouTube demonetization wave that hit F, that Moodypie cocksucker decided it was a good idea to use the N word. on video game streams.

There's a big difference to throw the rounds. Just throw it around like singing along to lyrics. If I sing along to lyrics, I roll my window up first. I respect. Right. And then you do. And then I just sort of mouth it like.

Dude, so when I was living in Nurshel, you were living in Nurshel. Yeah, because I was living there in like 91. That's when I lived there.

That makes sense.

Well, that told him to make sense because that show was 16 plus years ago. Right? 2001. I want to say 2001.

extremely extremely fortunate I mean that you couldn't I couldn't have stepped in shit any deeper than with news radio it was just total luck I literally had like three acting classes ever because I had to take them because Disney gave me a development deal because of us just stand up and they just throw money at you and say, do back in the 90s they were doing that because they had seen what happened with Rosanne they had seen what happened with Tim Allen and Seinfeld no like that's what you got to do you got to find someone who you think is funny and develop show around them and it worked with some people Brett Butler had a show you know there's there was a lot of that going on and so they were trying to do that and so I had a development deal and then I had a show that was on on Fox for a few episodes and it got canceled and then I got on news radio so I'm on news radio Six years into my stand-up career, I was literally a beginner in terms of stand-up. Like, if you talk to a stand-up, six years considered a beginner again. Oh, yes. Wow. Wow. Yeah, that's a beginner. Yeah, you don't know what the fuck you're doing. I took a guy in the road with me recently that had been doing comedy for seven years and he's got 20 minutes of material. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's fucking a grind, son. There's other people like more advanced, like Tony Hinch Gliff's seven years in had already done a Netflix special. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it did really varies.

Oh, yeah. Well, the acting stuff was just an opportunity to make money. And it was just, it was also an opportunity to get people to come see you do stand up. But it was weird like to all of a sudden be acting with Phil Hartman and Andy Dick and Stephen Root and more a tyranny is like, I don't even, I shouldn't even be here.

I mean, that is true. It all becomes normal, man. I mean, I still get worried about what I mean, famous people that I really like.

No. No. No, I'm like a sealess person. No. Here, that's be lact. Yeah, I don't act. I'm not on TV. I'm Celeste. And I'm a cage fighting commentator. You know, it's pretty easy to dismiss me. Yeah, I'm more a more Celeste. I just, a lot of people your age know I am. It's a different world. Every body my age knows who you are. It's a different world. So the fear fact of thing was I had done a lot of stuff after NewsRadio that didn't work, not a lot of stuff, but a few pilot scripts that I had gotten, a few meetings that I had with people that were kind of goofy, there was a lot of like, and I didn't, I loved working with my cat, my friends from NewsRadio, they were great, but I had also worked with a bunch of actors who were actors. It's not an environment. It's not a job that lends itself to authenticity. Yeah. It's a job that lends itself to conformity because you're always auditioning for things. So you want everybody to like you. So you sort of pattern your likes and dislikes your behavior patterns your your your opinions to what you look your finger. Yeah. You put it in the air. Where's the wind blowing? I'm going that way. Sure. It's a safest way to make a living. And there's a lot of that in Hollywood.

Oprah, we've heard you're never gray right there. Yeah. Well, I mean, be somebody. Maybe some, I don't think so, man. Struggling with wrestling with menopause.

Yeah. That fucking piece of shit. He says, taking on extra work with he does. So when fear fact came along two things I thought one was gonna be canceled immediately. I was really convinced and went on forever forever hundred and forty eight episodes and we came back and did seven more Um, but the um, getting attacked by dogs and making people eating bull dicks. Yeah. I was like, this is no way this is going to last. This is crazy. And so I feel I felt like at the very least it would give me some material and it was, it was, uh, generous amount of money and it was money that, well, I was like, okay, if I do this and I keep doing this, I don't have to do other things like I can be free and that having that ability to say no to things and to have fuck you money and to just not worry about how to pay your bills. I knew when I lived in New Rochelle, it was actually when I got my first development deal. When I got my first development deal, there was this physical weight left lifted off of me where I didn't have to worry. How am I going to pay my rent next month? How am I going to pay my gas? How am I going to make sure? Because that was a, I went from that to having some money and the feeling that I got, it was like, okay, this is valuable. This is some bullshit idea, like having, I'm not saying like that being rich makes you happy. It's not, but having resources. is a valuable thing. And having the resources to not have to do something you don't want to do and where you can pursue what you want to do, that's valuable as well.

I think also the amount of work that you have to do to make a million dollars a year. Significant stress is you out. You don't have time to do things that you love, like say if you, you know, you have some hobbies that you really enjoy. You feel like I got to leave those alone for a while. I got to pursue my career and go after my career and really make it happen. It's hard to balance that. life comfort, appreciation for your just your existence here and trying to make a living. And sometimes people get that way wrong and they go all in on making a living and then you become some fucking Harvey Weinstein guy who's just all about just vices and just filling your life up with things that try to make you happy because you've got $500 million in the bank and you're constantly working and you just sound a good example. Harvey Weinstein is like a example. Yeah, he's a shit.

The better example would be someone who works so they have a heart attack and then realizes they never had any fun and now their health is deteriorated so radically that they can't have fun and then they can't work and they can't even do what they do and then they have to sort of reboot their life. I mean, I just think it's very important to enjoy your time here. It's it's fucking fleeting like Kevin Smith. Just how I saw that. Yeah, I love that guy. He's a great guy. Because you've been on the podcast? Yeah, a couple times. I've been on his. He's been on this one a couple times. He's awesome. He's just a sweet, a genuine, sweet heart of a guy. He's one of those guys where if he doesn't like someone, I don't like him. Oh, wow. He trusted that much. Oh, he's just me, right? Sure. If Kevin Smith doesn't like, he's a really nice guy. Like if he doesn't like you, you must be a shit. Right. He just doesn't make any sense. You know, my point is that this is fleeting. Yeah. You know, like I'm 50 years old. I became 50 years old. I don't know how that happened. It just keeps happening. Well, it's funny.

Yeah, I remember 30 shit. She just got a little real. I remember 30 because I was dating girls kind of a taunt. She was just kind of a little and not her fault. She's a little negative. She's like, I already thought you already were 30. I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? I was like, I'm telling you something's weird and you're not even thinking about my perspective. You're like, I thought you already were a 30. What are you saying?

I don't think that's what it was. She was a deeply unhappy person that was trying to diminish me. That's not good. Well, it happened. Not a healthy relationship. No. It wasn't a healthy relationship period, but there's a lot of. a lot of that happens in relationships right people try to diminish each other or they feel like they're in a bad position of power like they feel like they don't have the power in the relationships so then they see that there's possibly a vulnerability and instead of like suiting that person the attack that vulnerability that's how you know you're in a terrible toxic the power struggle sure. Oh, yeah, man.

What are we doing?

They for a fucking for sure. Yeah, man. But it's hard to tell people while it's happening. It's hard to tell people, hey, man, you're in a bad relationship. This is not good. Especially like rich guys with hot girls that like don't where it doesn't make any sense. And the guys like miserable and like, hey, man. Do you see what's happening? This is not your money. This is not going to work, man. Yeah. And it's fucking sucks, right? For that rich guy. He's kind of a dork. He's like, well, what the fuck? Look, you know what else sucks? When the antelope has a limp, that sucks. And the lions running at them, and they're in a goddamn thing they could do, the universe does not care about whatever this imbalance is. But you, as a thinking, cognitive species, like you as a conscious, aware individual. You gotta pay attention to that. Like, she's gonna get your money. Or she's gonna leave, but either something's happening, something's happening.

That's why we have people who are not going to believe. Talkin' to me about losers. Gordon, get us lose or countries. And you say, why aren't we like these losers?

Those assholes with health care and fucking, like, and I definitely think people should get paid time off. And I definitely think, I mean, I've had some pretty intense arguments with wealthy people about a living wage. I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind if you think someone should be working for less than $15 for an hour of their time. So I'm telling you, a guy's going to go in your backyard is going to dig a fucking hole for an hour. You want to give him $5? How much do you want to give him? You want to give him $7?

I care it's a 12 year old, the 12 year old digs for an hour, given 20 bucks. This is crazy. The number is crazy and people all the businesses won't be able to survive. No, and that's not true. It's not true. The person who's making the most money of the top of the business won't make as much money as exactly.

I'd like to point out that I make, I know Jack shit about economics.

They pay you and the kangaroos have to give you a bucket of poison snakes.

and are they are they a hellscape joe is australia for all this side i think australia is fucking amazing so spare me with the bullshit arguments that's really can't afford to pay people a living wage read this the fair work commission has handed down it's annual ruling on australia's minimum wage raising it by two point four percent to six hundred seventy two dollars and seventy cents a week that's excellent so means that extra fifteen point 15 dollars point 80 cents per week for the 1.8 million workers who are paid the minimum wage will apply from July 1st and equates to a minimum hourly rate of $17.70 and that's in 2016 May 30th of 2016 that's an excellent

I believe it what do you think that is do you think that's people just taking advantage of poor people is that they are they do they really believe this is a stepping stone position that no one who's making minimum wage ever consider this something they're going to do forever

Yeah. That's real. I mean, that's kind of undeniable. And the idea that a CEO should be able to earn that much more money than anybody else. It's kind of fucking crazy too. Like the whole CEO position is very bizarre. The fact that these guys get payouts when their companies go under and Wall Street bailouts.

That was hilarious. So it wasn't just that these people got bailed out, which was also very arguable. Our good position arguing against that. That's right. I don't know what would have happened if we let the banks fail. I know how catastrophic that would have been to our economy, but it's arguable. Like it was a debatable point. It's not a debatable point to give those fucking people millions of dollars the taxpayers' money is gone to the bailouts so that they can get that bonus. It's in their contract. Correct. And Obama was like, well, it's in their contracts. We'll fuck their contracts. The contracts is no good now because the whole company went under. Your banks fucked up. You guys were running the banks. You don't get that 50 million bucks you're promised.

Yeah, and those guys are already rich. That's just even crazier. You give rich people tons of money after they fucked up and did a shitty job.

Yeah, I definitely think there was something like that. There was also that he didn't seem like one of them. He seemed like something different. Like let's try something different. This is a new thing. Yeah. The old thing is not working.

Noises you like to hear. So this gentleman, what's his name again? The guy with a short name? Uh, Rokana. Rokana. Yeah. Rho. What's a full name? What's his full name?

I just know that you were in Rick back. Something crazy. Um, how does he speak? Is he speakleric politician? Is he talking to normal dude?

I want to smell him out.

You can't remember, so I got a clip. Let's break it down. But I'm willing to fucking put my chips in this guy's corner.

But he's, he's on road. Don't be a pussy. He's on the radar road. Wait, he's got a tan suit. It's over. Can't do it. Don't you remember the tan suit Obama thing? I do, yeah.

I think this is just kidding. That's dangerous. Okay.

You're touring. He's talking about medical knowledge. I'm going to get this guy in had a roll. Listen, he's going to get him on those pills. Trump's on. So get him on those fucking energy pills. We really have like a lot of a lot of vigor, a lot of a lot of pepper in your step. You think Trump's on pills?

You think he's on had a roll? I think he's on something like it. I mean, I'm reporting on it. Do you? Yeah. Well, apparently, there is a reporter that literally named the pharmacy where the Dwayne Reed pharmacy where Trump had his prescription pills, where he used to be on one form of amphetamine. That was a diet pill, supposed to be on for six months. He was on for years. It completely makes sense. It's about the amount of time that guy spent on the campaign 70 some odd year old guy out there giving speeches and listening energy is incredible. Yeah, and let me tie something everybody that I know that did add a roll like I had a good I have a good friend of it before. Yeah, I haven't but I have a good friend and it was on it for a long time. It's like Coke, and he got off it. He gained 50 pounds. He feels like it's hard for him. He said doctors were just handing him this stuff and that stuff. And the one doctor gave him three different impediments and told him, find the one that you liked the best. That's a hard attack way to happen. He was taking them all in one. Jacked up on these things all the time. And last time I saw him was like four years ago when he was jacked up on him and I'm like, dude, what's going on? And he's like, I'm on this fucking run at her all. I go, you kind of like, out of it. He's like, yeah, I just, So he's now he's back to normal, but he's like, I eat anything. And I gain weight now. His whole system's all screwed up.

Yeah. Well, weed is like a bunch of different things. There's one of things that I like about weed that a lot of people our terrifying one of the things that people don't like about weed is the intense introspective I get paranoid. Yeah, that's what it is, but that I think is where you get growth. Really? Yeah, man.

I don't want to psychoanalyze but I feel like what for my own personal view if I feel bad about something if I smoke pot and then also and I remember something I did like two years ago. I'm like what did I do that like what was what the fuck was that about? I think that's an opportunity for psychic growth. It gives me an opportunity to examine my own thoughts and try to figure out what, I mean, like who you are at any given time is a bunch of different factors, right? It's what's going on in your career, what's going on in your personal life, where's your health at, how many of these factors are outside of your control, where's the state of your success in life and all these various things, and then all those things together? And that's who you are at any given time and it fluctuates. It moves. It goes back and forth. And if you catch yourself at a good time in your smoke pot, you feel great. And if you catch yourself at a point where maybe you're examining these things, like sometimes you'll think about these various factors and you get very uncomfortable. And when you were in a state just an hour ago where you were super comfortable about your life, now that's sudden you don't feel good. Like what is that? Well, it's probably there's some sort of subconscious thoughts and ideas that you've ignored. And I think ignoring those things is probably unhealthy and even though that feeling of paranoia or whatever you want to call it I call it ruthless introspective thinking right that feeling is is probably it's healthy because it's so it's making you examine things that you're probably pushing to the dark regions of your consciousness you don't they're making them uncomfortable so you push them aside and I think they're better off explored and dealt with

That happened sometimes too.

You probably first of all you probably smoked too much. I always think I did. I'm sure I did. I always advise people when the first time they smoked pod just take one little hit. Yes, a little hit. And just experience the good parts, which is like a good weird kind of funny feeling. And then there's also, I feel like it's a turbocharger for your imagination.

Well, that's listen. It's a good thing to laugh. I don't think it's a bad thing. But one of the reasons why you don't remember what you were laughing. And there's a real issue with short-term memory in marijuana. You know, it's one of the reasons why I prefer marijuana with new tropics. I like the combination of the two. I think they balance each other out because the new tropics accentuate your memory and then on top of that, the marijuana sort of fucks with your memory a little bit. There's real issues. I mean, marijuana is not, it's not 100% innocuous in terms of your psychic stability.

Yeah. They were way different. They were very, very intense. Like within the first week, it started getting really crazy. Yeah. Like intense. Like weird lucid dreams. like just very, very bizarre and detailed and bright and vivid.

But I've read is that what kind of wish I could remember. Let's see if you could pull that up. What are the marijuana and there's some positive benefits? to it. It just bypasses that REM sleep, deep REM sleep quicker, and you get to the deeper stages of sleep. Because REM sleep a lot of people think is like the deepest levels. It's not. There's deeper level of sleep. The idea is that marijuana somehow or another gets you to that deeper level quicker. There's a lot of people that I know that smoke pop before they go to bed and it's very helpful. Yeah.

Yeah, there's no reason to ban it. There's no death. There's no addictive properties. It's not, it's not something that's fucking people up.

That's a weird substance in terms of like, I don't know any other substance where you take a low dose and it's a stimulant, you take it. Hope he was the same way.

What's the rationalization for categorizing it as an opioid?

So it's a killed Tom Petty and princess here and Philips you more often they were speculating that defense and it was in his heroin which is why he had heroin that was heroin heroin right he didn't have pills oh no it wasn't yeah wasn't pills he was doing heroin but the the stuff that they found in princess system like he apparently didn't even have prescription for fentanyl oh so you're saying somehow somehow another got it I don't know okay you know I mean probably want something stronger he apparently had fucked his hips up Prince said, you know, Prince had done all that crazy dancing on stage and all those years. You know, my friend Manard from tool, he had to get a hip replacement from stomping on stage. You ever see like how Manard sings? Yeah. When he would sing, he would just be fucking stomping on stage. He blew his hip out. That's crazy. Now he's got an artificial hip. They cut the top of his head. How old is he?

Yeah, four back surgery. Dude, I know a lot of people that have had back surgery. My good friend Eddie Bravo has an artificial disc in his back.

He doesn't right now because he blew his ACL out and has to have ACL reconstructive surgery. I mean, look, jujitsu is rough on the body. I've had two knee reconstructions, one from Taekwondo, one from one from Jiu-Jitsu, but then I had a third operation from Jiu-Jitsu as well. So two knee surgeries from Jiu-Jitsu, and I had some significant back problems too. Everybody gets them. There's no way around that if you're training hard, your body just can only take so much.

That was it fascinating. I haven't gone the Panama yet to do that. I've only done them in America, which apparently you can't get the same sort of potency, but there's some new research that shows that there's some, there's some other stuff that they're working on now that is, this sounds gross, but in Biblical blood. They're using blood from, from, and miracles of people that are, you know, just giving birth and they're having radical healing response with this stuff.

But it's a concept. Yeah. That is something that erroneously was attributed to Peter Teele. The Peter Teele was doing that apparently. He said he wasn't. But there's a start up in Silicon Valley that does that. That offers and guys are going there. And so like a guy would go there and some 25-year-old kid who does CrossFit every day would give up a couple of pints of blood and they'd shoot it into your system and then you'd go out there and fuck the shit out of your body.

Maybe yes, and maybe no.

A little bit. Yeah, that's the Elizabeth Bathery thing, right? Remember the story of Elizabeth Bathery? No. She's an interesting, somebody contacted me on Twitter and told me that this story might be a distortion, even though it's sort of in the historical record. They might have actually been trying to steal her land so they might have fabricated some of these charges. But one of the ancient stories of Elizabeth Bathory was that she was this incredibly evil woman that as she got older, she would torture and kill young peasant women and like bathe in their blood because she wanted to regain her youth and she was jealous of these hot. I don't know if it's real though, and this person who said that it was a hoax, it was, it made me go, oh, okay, I could see that happening too, you know, where the someone wanted to steal from her, so they, make concocted some charges, or could be either or, could be both, you know, who the fuck knows?

Yes, and no, the evidence is very solid that there's some degenerative properties of stem cells. The problem is we don't have enough evidence of what the potential downsides could be and whether or not there's a very specific protocol that the insurance safety. Now, Dr. Neil Reardon is on top of all that stuff and his books We used to have him sit around here, but I think we put him in our little library. Um, his books detail all of the various studies that have shown efficacy and all the different benefits they have. And for a lot of people like Mel Gibson's dad, who was nice when he went in there, now he's almost 100 sure. And Mel Gibson's dad was fucked. I mean, he couldn't walk. He was all jacked up and it's straighten them right out.

It's always possible. I think more likely they're skeptical and then the FDA also wanted to categorize some stem cell preparations as a drug because you have to do something to the stem cells and then in the process of cultivating them, there's some sort of a method that they do that they believe categorizes it as a drug. I'm obviously a moron, so I'm not the right person to talk to about this. Yeah, but Dr. Neil Reardon is lobbying to get it passed in Texas. God damn great state Texas. Hallelujah. If anybody can do it, Texas can do it. They don't go. Yeah, they don't care. They don't give it a fuck. It's barely America. That's your Texas. And that's one thing. I would love it if they did that if they did it where you could go to Texas and get their treatments. Everybody that I know that's gone over there and gotten the treatments has had some radical positive response. Well, they're no quite a few people that have gone there.

That doesn't make any sense. I don't know.

Why the fuck are we not pushing it like crazy and the reason is they don't want to stop making money off the fucking opioids that's that is I think that is a much more likely conspiracy because there's just an ungodly amount of money in opioids

Did you ever see the documentary the oxycontin Express? I did not know.

Yeah, I think I saw that. They've changed the law since then because people were going down. I mean, there's one of the most ridiculous things they've ever had in this country. They had a setup where they had these pain management centers. So it's one box right one building and in this building there's two different doors One door is the doctor you go to the doctor you go. Hey, man fucking back hurts and the doctor is okay. I write your prescription go next door to pharmacy the pharmacy only has oxycon Yeah, it's like if you only have a hammer Yeah Everything looks like a no, it looks like you need a hammer here How am I gonna chop this tree down? I'm gonna use a hammer It's, I mean, it's fucking crazy that this was going on for so long and then they also, this is where it got really weird. It wasn't just they had these pain management centers. They also didn't have a state database. So if you went to Dr. Jamie over there and got a prescription for oxycontin and then you left Dr. Jamie's office with a fat bag of pills, you could go to Dr. Joe's office and I give you another prescription. And these pain management centers were all over the place in Florida. So Florida was literally because, I mean, There's no other way that I could imagine that this would be done conscientiously. I think this is all corruption. I think the only reason why they would have no database is not, we're not in the 1500s. Sure. You guys could keep records of who's fucking on this shit and who's not. I mean, they had records back before the internet. Yeah. There's no excuse for this. This is, I think, intentional corruption.

Exactly. So what is the status of cradom currently? Still legal.

If they want to, in fact, they can't get that shipment back. No, you can't get it back off. Exactly. We're going to take your beneficial ads.

Multi-State, I don't break a salmonella. All right, so this is sections related to cradom.

We instead suggest fentanyl which kills rhinos. We can kill fucking whale with a, with a, of altoid size piece of, uh, fentanyl. They literally kill a whale. I know. Yeah. Yeah. That whale would be fucked. Yeah. An altoid.

28 cases. Few people got diarrhea. But that's it. 11 hospitalizations.

So that's one of the things they did with marijuana and car accidents. They were saying, oh, all these different car accidents, people have marijuana in the system. Yeah, well, they were also drunk. Exactly. Yeah, people are partying, man. Right. They're out of their fucking head and they crash in a trees.

It's very easy to get weed in California. It's very easy. It's not as easy as in Colorado. Colorado's got it down. Colorado's got it nailed and they they're

Yeah. Okay. Whatever. It's a high tax rate. I think they have a 39% tax rate on recreational. I think it's like 11 on medicinal. But here's the thing. It's not exorbitantly expensive. It's a plant that grows easy. It's not hard to grow. It's not like some very difficult grape that needs a perfect climate and it's not marijuana's not hard to grow. So there's not a lot of arguments against it for responsible adults. Yeah, that's the things. We're going to regulate responsible adult use of substances because if we do, we would be hypocritical if we didn't eliminate alcohol.

Well, this is another thing that Trump should have recognized when he was sessions. Yeah, it's a perfect example. That guy's a goddamn monster.

Well, he literally said, good people don't use marijuana. Well, that's crazy, bro. Yeah.

So I think there's something like 37% of the country is a regular marijuana user. So you're saying 37% of the country's bad people.

And we're going to make a lot of money that can go to the schools that can go to the infrastructure. Exactly.

Yeah, they kick your door down and shoot your dog because you've got a fucking bowl sitting in your coffee table. There's so many examples of that, too. If Trump really wanted to stop all this illegal Mexican cartel, legalized shit, legalized, tax it, regulate it. Don't you have thousands of jobs to create? Yeah, there's no reason for them to be here.

producers and executives if you had a bunch of executives that were above you and you know fill in the blank CNBC or whatever and their job depended upon you not saying something fucked up that was going to get the advertisers to crack down on their program and you wouldn't be able to do it. You would never send them.

Exactly. They're operating in this archaic format too. The other problem is they interrupt their show every 15 minutes for commercials and it's just they break the flow of it and then they've got fucking commercials for anti depressants and diarrhea pills and whatever the fuck outs are selling and it's just Nobody wants that. This is an archaic version of entertainment, and it made sense back when that was the only way to get your entertainment. When the only way to get your entertainment was the big three, NBC, ABC, CBS, and Fox comes along with tossing the opera card up, and then you got cable. Oh my goodness. Now things are crazy. Well, the cable news is really opening it up, and then you got wild shit like Fox News, and all this, and Megan Kelly doesn't have any clothes on. She's telling you about fucking history. All that stuff was really an interesting thing. Then the internet comes along all bets are off. 100%. And they're fucked because it got like you. I mean, who's who's involved in your operation? How many people? three, four, hilarious. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's nuts. I mean, how many fucking people would be involved in the Ryan C. Cres show? Forget it. Hundreds, right?

No, I've been involved in that kind of stuff before. I know what happens. Just too many cooks in the kitchen, everything gets fucked up, and everybody's also trying to justify their position, which is almost unnecessary. I mean, there's so many positions. When you work on a television set and you see how many people are just standing around, you go, oh, what the fuck is? Why are there so many jobs? Why are there so many people working? Well, a lot of it is like, they've kind of created these jobs just to find their position. And then when there's meetings, those people all have an idea that they want to change. they want to change this or tweak that and so they can say that was my idea and that justifies the roll out was my idea to tell Kyle that he's got to stop doing this and start doing that and we got to Kyle to wear a suit and he pushed back but I was right I was right you know like there's all that kind of shit that happens on these goddamn tv sets and it ruins the the individual idea like a person's individual point of view. Like if there's no way you're going to get a real unique individual point of view if you have so many people tweaking and adjusting and restricting and demanding that a certain behavior, certain way or dressing a certain way or stay to a certain topic or keep on, you have to keep within these very clearly defined parameters.

That was a disaster. Yeah, that was a disaster for a bunch of reasons. But one of the reasons why that was a disaster was because Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlick decided to pull Janet's booby out on TV. And so they cracked down on being very pleasing. They were terrified of everything, but that's Also, you have a bunch of people again that aren't comedians, they don't know what's funny, and they're trying to impose their idea of what's funny and what's not. You have a lot of that on television now. You have a lot of these people that aren't necessarily comedians, but they might be like super progressive, social justice, warrior types, and now they're trying to push that kind of comedy as being what everybody likes. And then that shit gets to You know, Jamie's hometown Columbus, Ohio and these people are like, what the fuck is that feeding me?

He's a perfect example, too, because for the longest time, I was trying to tell people, for the longest time, like I had agents, former agents of mine that would tell me you've got to stop work with that guy.

just straightforward he is yeah he's a genius he's a comedy genius i think he's the funny it in terms of like bursts of kind might not be the very best joke writer of all time but in terms of being the funniest i think he's the funniest person's ever lived i've seen everybody i've seen almost everybody either live or on video i don't think anybody's ever been funnier than Joey i've seen Joey some nights at the ice house or some nights at the comedy store hit levels of ridiculousness yeah i don't think i've seen anybody in His whole theme, he's a goddamn human cartoon. His voice, his cartoon, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world, the world,

Well, I'm also, I'm out there in the clubs and I'm watching Joey go on stage and crush. So then I'm telling me he's not funny. I'm like, you're out of your mind. Yeah, you're just wrong. I've seen it. Not only that. I'm a fan of comedy. I'm not just, I'm not just a fan of things that are gross. I'm a fan. In fact, if someone's gross and it's not well done, it's appalling to me. Right. I know when people are just being gross for the sake of trying to get a reaction, it's annoying. Yeah, it's like it's bad on your brain, especially when you hear it more than once. It's like it's it's it's it's grading Joey's not doing that He's just he's being himself and I was watching him kill over and over and over again and having these people tell me that it's not good and then podcast came along You know, seven, eight years ago. So he's going to know him. And then now when we have him on, it's like always one of our highly Jews in a minute.

I like that too, but I like Joey with guests too. I just like Joey. I'm going to direct and produce Joey's stand-ups special. Oh, that's great. We couldn't get anybody to do it. It's just like, they still don't get it. Like, there's a lot of people that still don't get it. And I'm hoping they get it when we put something together. But we're going to film something at the ice house. Okay. And I'm going to put it all together. Yeah. And I'm going to direct it and produce it and the whole day and just have someone added it and just put it together and just make the ultimate Joey Diaz comedy special. So people could know. And we're going to do a shitload of shows too. Because that's the other thing. When a comic has to do one show, ready here Kyle, this is your one moment to be funny, and it's gonna be seen forever. It's like you smoke and pot and realizing millions of people are talking. Yeah, exactly. That's sort of what it's like for a comic to do a special. So you do one, you get it in the can, you feel loose, then you get that second one, you're like, oh, we got it. And then you get the third one, you're like, now we really got it, and you need to fourth one, that fourth one is generally like a real comedy show, where there's no concern, no worries, no issues.

that the Japanese use for someone who does something over and over and over and even a simple task and becomes a master at it. Do you remember what that term was? Jamie? Remember that? This is one guy in the film. First I was very skeptical. I'm not watching a fucking movie about a dude who makes sushi because the fish puts it on the right.

Yeah, you and I in. And that is, what is the definition of that? What is it, what do they call it? What is the actual tradesmen? No, it was like someone who practices something methodically, meticulously forever until they get it. And this guy was just making an egg dish. There's like really simple fluffy egg dish. I mean, and he, you know how you get those, you know how you get sushi sometimes and that's that little piece of egg on it. Like this. I don't like sushi. Tastes like sushi. Yeah. You don't need pussy either. Well, this shot is fucking camera off. This guy's on asshole. The pussy went all the way with the sushi I'm not doing with it. Anyway, this guy was like almost tears because he finally reached this state where the guy was like, yeah, this is the way to make the egg dish. The mastery of one's profession is so cool.

Okay show Koonin mastery of one's profession, but in that this is this thing that this guy had been studying the art of making sushi like the properly aging of the fish which I didn't even know I thought the fish was fresh I thought that was the mood yeah really if it's aging well they want to they know refrigerators for long periods of time that I would have never guessed that they did that with fish Obviously with meat, everybody knows about dry aged meat, you're literally letting the bacteria break down the meat over long periods of time.

Yeah, yeah, there's something in that where you you're you're exploring your own potential for getting good at things right that's that's what you're doing you're exploring like what what's keeping this guy from making this perfect egg dish and how does he nail it is it a timing issue is it a I mean, is he getting the ingredients correct? I don't know what's what ingredients are in this egg dish, but I don't know why I'm even using that, but for anything, there's some exploration of these ideas, but is this kizan? That's the word. Continuous improvement, a long-term approach to work that systematically seeks to achieve small incremental changes in processes in order to improve efficiency and quality. Kai's in. But I think it was so cool.

Yeah. Yeah. And also. He exemplifies a lot of those traits we were just discussing. He was talking about his first book, and one of the things that he said is that it took him 15 years to write the book. This while for rules book? No, the first book was on the Cold War, and he was talking about how he went over every sentence to see if it can be improved or criticized. But do you do that with your like the podcast do you listen back or no because there's a lot sometimes sometimes if if especially if I fucked up if I fucked up I'll listen all if I said something I know there could be a bit Said something ridiculous well I have to go back and get another one there mine it. Yeah, I'll do that Or you know if some people say something that's really intense like the David Goggins podcast I plan on listening to that one again because it was so inspirational

Well, he's, I mean, he's intense and tense. It's not a good enough word. It's like we need to. Yeah. Yeah. Show Koonin word for intensity. Yeah, but also you could get a lot out of that. There's something about inspiration in that form, like the exemplified form. There's a term that the Koreans use for a Taekwondo instructor. It's a sublim nim, and it means one who leads by example. And there's something about a guy like that that really does practice what he preach. preachers and is so motivational just by his own actions when you hear him talk about it and you know he's actually done it like you just want to like why am I sitting down I gotta go yeah I just want to I think you said that after the podcast right you were like I'm in the gym fuck yeah I just want to go do something right just there's something about guys like him that are very very valuable to us and I think people get real cynical about the idea of inspiration because there's so many ridiculous like not to single out girls because guys do it too but it's some funny shit about girls just stick their butt out on Instagram and they have all these like motivational quotes you know according and I were talking about it before

Yeah. Yeah. And the butt thing is the most disgusting thing, whether they're taking fat and stuffing it into their ass and they developed as diaper butt. I mean, there's a lot of people out there with diaper butt. I met a girl the other day that had diaper butt. She's at the comedy store and I couldn't look away. I was like, what is happening to her butt? Because I knew it wasn't real. I knew she was like, okay. So this spin could be like, yeah, the skinny legs and then the Well, if a girl has a big like hips and a right member of our crumb comics, do you remember our crumb comics and our crumb is our crumb there was a great documentary called crumb and it's about this guy. It's a really eccentric perverted cartoonist from the 1970s and he would always draw these women with these enormous legs, and enormous butt. But they weren't fat. They were just... It was voluptuous. Well, no, it's past voluptuous. Into like super athlete DNA. Like if you could get that girl and make some male babies with it, you would have a fucking ultimate warrior. Like that, see that woman? Like they're perfect. Yeah. How to have fun with a strong girl. And you see our crumb. That's actually him.

Yeah, that's actually him with his boner because he was his really frail, dorky guy. And he's got this image of this woman who just looks like a tank. She has his giant muscle legs and big boobs, but not like ridiculous stripper boobs, but more like just super alpha DNA female boobs. Yeah. He was a freaky guy. But like, look at him. He's got sock. I mean, that's, that's who he was. Like who they want above that, Jamie, the one to the right here right there. Like, oh my goodness. This is what he used to draw. He was always drawing this enormous, powerful women.

Yeah. Yeah. He would just shove his whole head and they're pussy or something. Sure. Like look at him riding one. I guess he's supposed to be having sex with him.

Yeah, oh man. Okay, he's choking them in these cards. Like he's always choking them. Like you literally couldn't have an R crumb today.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, see if you could find a video of him. R crumb. The documentary is fascinating because I think you wound up moving to France or something like that. I think you want to leave America. Um, but there's there's actually if you go to video you'll you'll find there's video of him but that was the guy he's a really fascinating guy That's on him. It looks just like the right Non the right. Oh, that's not definitely not the right. Okay. He's in the left. Is that him? Oh, there is. He's some about where he just looks odd This is just holding up that picture. Yeah. Maybe it's also because I'm looking at him now as an older man. Yeah. The lot of the video that I've seen was him.

That's yeah, you might not. You might just save it up for every couple weeks and draw one of those cartoons and beat off to it or to find a gal. Yeah.

Strange, strange character though. It doesn't matter Jamie. It's okay. What's that? He did Fritz the cat too. Yeah. Yeah. He did Fritz the cat. He did a lot of pretty famous animated or cartoon comic book type things. But they were all at cartoonish like features, everybody was weird. Yeah.

No, but that's different. See, this is like a real like that. Those women's asses that are crumbed Drew. I'm not justifying his stuff, but they were freak DNA specimens. Those women had giant thighs and giant asses. And that's who they were. Whereas with Kim, she's got those spindly, not, yeah, like her butt is this, they just, it's a surgical creation. Like there's pictures of her. They're online that make it look good, but they're all photoshopped. And we found out about that because she got paparazzi when she was in Mexico. They caught her on the beach. I think that was the one that they were showing on the way. It's worth it. Way, grosser. They caught her wandering around the beach and they took photos of her, like real paparazzi photos. She would have fake paparazzi photos where she would hire paparazzi, take photos of her, and then she would photoshop them up. And they made it look like everything was in place. But it's not. Yeah. It's a disaster. This is what it really looks like.

Yeah, but even that ass is a distortion. There's so much going on there because you're not supposed to have that much fat in one place. A girl has an ass like that has legs to match it.

It's like those guys that shoot Syntha on top of the muscles. It's the same thing. Like you're not, that's not a real ass. Like I know. Just like those Syntha on muscles are not real muscles.

Yeah, but it wouldn't match it. It's just not possible.

Yeah, but not like that. Just it's the whole thing is a disaster. It's just I've ever watched this show. Oh my god. Look at his face. He's like I'm nailing this shit. Yeah, look at his neck. I got this shit on lock. Oh my god. Look at this guy.

He does. I mean, these guys wind up getting horrible infections too, and sometimes they've. Well, they scan green and shit.

Like there's Mad Erexia and there's Big Erexia. Body dysmorphia exists with, there's, there's people that have body dysmorphia in terms of their facial features. They just can't stop tweaking their nose.

Yeah, the human mind varies so much. There's so many different paths that thoughts can go down. And there's so many different weird pathologies that the mind is capable of. But the idea that you would think that you're supposed to be handicapped, and not handicapped, so you want to chop off a foot or something like that. It's really, I mean, it's not common. I shouldn't say it's common, but it's definitely documented.

It's a good question. I haven't really thought about too much. I don't think so. I don't think that that's an elective surgery. And people would say, though, it's not elective surgery. But you think that other people should pay for that. Boy, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't have it, okay? So if I was gonna say, I know why people are transgender. They're transgender because of body dysmorphia. They're transgender because of gender dysmorphia. They're transgender because of this, because of that, because of abuse, because of, you know, they're easily susceptible to suggestion. I would just be talking on my ass. I don't really know. I would imagine though that there is a broad spectrum of reasons why someone becomes transgender. Some of them being that they literally have the wrong programming in their brain. Some of them being that they, I mean, they could have thought that they were fucking wood elf. I mean, or that they, that's the furry shit is the weird shit. Oh, that's weird. But the fairy shit, too, is like, I've talked to some furries because we're kind of... I'm thinking of other kids. That's the shit I'm thinking of. The other kid's shit is nuts. But there's also people that identify with being a six-year-old girl. I mean, there's been... Yeah. So yeah, cases where people identify as being much younger than they are, and they think it's all the sex with young kids.

It's a turn. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.

you in in the term left wing people anybody can join and you're going to get people like the green here people that were disrupting and they're hiring speech because she was saying there's a difference human and women you're going to get those nutty fuckers and then you're going to get people that are just reasonable people that happen to be bigger you're going to get that with gender fluidity you're going to get that with people that are transgender you're going to get that with people that are you know It's just going to get a wide variety. It's very difficult to nail things down to side.

Yeah, well, I was talking to Douglas Murray about this yesterday and there's this thing where everyone was forced to say that Caitlyn Jenner is beautiful. Like you can just accept that she was a woman. You're forced to say that she's beautiful and that she's a hero.

Why think when it comes to the transgender thing too, you need to be open to all avenues of this discussion. And one thing that I think we need to be open to, we need to think very carefully about why it is that someone needs surgery to be themselves. Why it is that someone needs exogenous hormones that aren't native to their biology to be themselves, like someone who wants to take estrogen as born a male, someone who, if you feel that you're a woman, or you feel that you're in the wrong body, Does it make sense that nature wants you to get surgery? Does it make sense that nature wants you to take hormones that don't exist in your body? I mean, is this a rational area of contention and discussion. This is something that people should talk about. Like when you say, if someone is forced to wear lipstick and high heels and make up and walking down the street, but that's not who you are, wouldn't that frustrate you? Yes, it would. But it doesn't necessarily conversely work where you are walking down the street without lipstick and high heels and make up and you say, that's what I'm supposed to have. Well, no, because that's not real. Like, lipstick is something you choose to apply. High heels are something you choose to wear. It's not, no one's forcing you to not have those things on. So you're saying that those things are what you really are. Well, no you're adding those things to you. What you really are is you. No makeup, naked, wake up in the morning, tick off your clothes. That's where the fuck you really are. If you say that you should have the right to wear makeup and the right to wear lip, of course. Should have the right to get your face tattooed like a Maori. Should have the right to do whatever the fuck you want. But that's who you really are. That's somehow your true self. There might be an underlying psychological issue there that's relevant. And to discuss that, puts you in this category of being transphobic or insensitive or right wing. I don't think that's accurate or fair. Because I think this is a real weird issue. It's very weird. And I think the only people that truly understand it are the people that are going through it themselves. people that actually have it and you know we can call up on those people to explain it to us but you get a broad spectrum of answers from those people as well.

And I don't necessarily even think that that's good. I think exhaust all of the possibilities first, including exercise and diet.

They do, but why do they have that genuine chemical imbalance? I had Johann in the podcast, which I saw that. And he makes a lot of really good points about like, what is it that's happening in your life? Is it your situation with your relationship, your career, your life, your health? All these different things need to be taken into consideration, so they're just putting some duct tape over it. In the term of these SSRIs and all these different psych medications that they're handing out, just as easy as they're handing out oxy-contents. They're passing these fucking things around, and they overrackle the shore. Radically affect your consciousness.

The problem with this is real scientists and doctors that disagree with that. And I don't know if she exhausted every other possibility. And Kara, she worships at the throne of science. And she thinks that this is the way to handle it. And she might be right. It also might be possible that if she had rigorous exercise on a daily basis, cleaned up her diet and did a bunch of other things, that maybe that would be just as effective if not more. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what she's done. But I think that automatically assuming that this blanket statement called depression, which could be, what does that even mean? You're not happy with your station in life. What does that mean? You're not happy with your body. What does that mean? I don't know what it means. I mean, you tell me that you have it, you know what it is when you have it, but how do you know that what you have is the same as what that guy has or what she has or what other people have. Sure, we don't know, but what we do know is the human body reacts in very different ways when it's well fed with nutrients and when you exercise on a daily basis, you flood your body with a natural endorphins that come from that exercise when you surround yourself with a loving community when you engage in things that are rewarding to you, all these things have a very positive effect on the way your mind works, as well as the way your body feels. The way your body feels has a positive result on the way your mind works. To think of either one of being independent of each other, I think is ignorant. It's the same thing. Yes, you bought it all the same and there's radical look, I'm not a depressed person, but I feel way better after I exercise. Oh, of course.

That's totally true. And they also like to justify their actions when people take a pill and that pills effectively. They go, well, this is my thing. This is what did it for me or for me. They're like, okay. But what cost? So can you orgasm anymore? Like, there's a lot of shit that happens to people that when they take those fucking things, it really fuck them up.

Like, but it's a solution surgery, sexual reassignment surgery, and how do we even know?

I definitely think they should have personal freedom to do it, just like they think they should have personal freedom to get their fucking nose pierced and do whatever you want to do. Yeah. But should you have to pay for it?

Like, how about girls identify with a girl who has big tits? I identify with a girl who has big tits and I have little tits and I have little tits and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and I have little lines and and you're convinced this is the key to your happiness how is that any different that a person and you could get mad at me all you want but you were talking about the physical state sure to physical state of someone like how how can you how can you say that the only way to fix this or how could you not offer that up as a possible avenue that these people can pursue it if you if there's any surgery that can help you and you want other people to pay for that surgery. I don't care, just because it pertains to gender doesn't mean we have to automatically acquiesque. I don't think that's rational. Yeah. And when it comes to breasts or other other various elective surgeries, I strongly feel that people should pay for those themselves.

Totally agree. Well, why is that different than sex change? I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it is either.

Well, not. Here's the problem. There's a massive massive suicide rate. It's over 40%. So even post operation.

Okay pretty show see if let's let's be accurate about this. Um suicide rates pre post transgender sexual reassignment operations. I am pretty sure that it's very similar that it doesn't change and then there's also causation versus correlation right is it because they were depressed because they were in the wrong body that led them down this road and now here they are and they just can't get past it. Even if they have a surgery, they're still bummed out. They're not accepted by society. As a woman, even if it become a trans woman, they're still not accepted by society and could that be changed by us being more open-minded and loving? Right. Is it nature? Is it nurture? Is it the environment? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it is. But if it is a legitimate mental health disorder, which is to be called, they used to be called gender dysphoria. And now if you use to term gender dysphoria, it's hate speech. In terms of us talking about this might get this podcast demonetized. I'm sure it will be probably will.

Yeah. Is that the correct treatment for gender dysphoria? Is that the correct treatment for someone who thinks that they should have no hand? Should you chop that hand off? What do you think? I don't know. Should you chop a penis off? I don't know. That's what. I don't Caitlyn Jenner did. Did she get it eventually? Okay. But the most hilarious statement after she did that she said that she is no more of a woman now that she was before. Well then hey, definitely keep your dick. Yeah, it's a good point. If you were still a woman before, I mean, she's fully accepted by that community and become a spokesperson by the way.

She's a male Kardashian. This show is was. That's what she always was. She's on that fucking freveless ridiculous show. And she became a really bizarre side note and pop culture. And that's what's going on. I mean, when you listen to her talk, she's like one of the worst spokespeople ever for the trans community.

The one the woman who created serious satellite radio. She also created a satellite navigation system. She's be a man. In fact, it's a very, very brilliant person. I interviewed her for sci-fi for that Joe Rogan questions, everything show. She created a model of her wife. They actually had babies together and then she became a woman. And they stayed together. And she created a robot of her wife. And she's constantly programming it and changing it and adding new language and new vocabulary to it. And she thinks eventually as technology and proof, she's going to be able to recreate her wife in a robot form.

The uncomfortable truth that many surveys, including the 2011 Swedish study, indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex reassignment surgery. The Swedish study reports that people have had sex reassignment surgery are 19 times more likely to die by suicide than is the general population. To be fair, to be fair, I see the sources life-site news, which is a very, very right way. That's true, but the National Center for Transgender Equality reported in 2014 that 40% of the people identify as transgender of attempted suicide.

I'm just saying that's a new center for transgender equality.

Okay. Yeah, that's true. That's legit. So, um, but they're reporting facts from studies. And I mean, this is this is pretty well established that there's a high suicide rate amongst transgender people pre and post-reassignment surgery. Okay. But again, then we go back to the same thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that they couldn't be happy if they weren't just fully accepted by society. I mean, I don't know if it's, I think Caitlyn Jenner's probably happy because she gets a shit load of attention now. Yeah. She was in the shadow. Oh, I'm over here. By the way, now she's, you know, front and center fucking vote magazine.

Right. Right. Right. That's a very good point. And I think open-mindedness is incredibly critical in our wide, diverse society. And when people push back against that, it creates all sorts of giant problems. And I just think it doesn't matter. You should be able to do whatever you want to do. And if it doesn't affect you, what do you care? I think we should really, really, really careful, but what we do to children, though.

Well, there's a, there's a Gil going back to Heather Highing and Eric Weinstein. There was a article that I believe Eric, not Eric, I'm sorry, Brett. Brett Weinstein put up on his Twitter yesterday or maybe it was Heather. But they were discussing this real problem with kids who are really young, where it becomes a trendy thing to think that they're in the wrong gender. And they get reinforcement from their very progressive friends who also get excited about this idea. and then to intervene surgically or chemically when your body still in development, your 13 or whatever the fuck you are, you don't know what you are yet. And you should be able to give yourself a chance to grow and develop. But there's a lot of people that disagree, including people that are already transgender, that In my mind, they're probably more supportive of it because they want more people to do it. Like Stephen Crowder had this weird thing where he and Jared, that guy that he does a show with, went to this meeting. They were talking about, they just stood under cover film thing. What they're talking about, they're six year old. Like is that too young to transition them? And they're like, no, a matter of fact, study show that that's the good time to do it. And that you could transition back if he changes his mind. And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about? No, you can't. He's using hormone blockers in a kid. You got a radically affect the way that kid develops as a grown adult.

But what is it? Is it 16? No. Is it 18? Is it 21? I think it's probably 25. I think it's five fully developed frontal cortex.

I think a lot of those lines are incorrect and I think science will show that the frontal lobe is not fully developed until you're 25 years old.

Yes. Yeah, I think I agree with that. Why? Because I screen-haired fuckers that were in Heather Hanks Beach. They're all like 19 and goofy. Yeah, I'm gonna look back at that video someday and go with the fuck was wrong with it. Yeah, listen, there's a lot to it. Of course. They're grown their own vegetables and they have to work for a living.

Some of them, of course, but then some of them.

Oh, God. You can fight for your country. Oh, why not? What do you want to have Kylie Jenner as a fucking president? Because I don't I don't a lot of them.

I want to make it so that baby the me there, but I don't think like really radical choices should be up to them when their brains not fully developed. But the same team you're so you're so young. You don't think when did you first drink? Uh, it's definitely before I was 21 at a party. I was in high school. I don't know somewhere around there somewhere in your teens.

No, not locked up, but I shouldn't be legal. Shouldn't be able to go into a liquor store. Really?

Well, am I wrong about that? I think there is, I think it's, yeah, I think it's fairly wrong. Maybe wine and things along like that. I think, first of all, having things that are forbidden definitely accentuates the desire to have them. We know that, right? Sure. telling a kid that cigarettes are bad. You can't have cigarettes. They want to smoke cigarettes. They want to be rebels. They want to drink. They want to, they want to do things that the adults do.

Right. Right.

But there's a big difference between sex, which I don't think is a bad thing. I don't think it's a disastrous thing. So you don't mind the different lines? I think he wants to be allowed to have sex with each other when they like it. Like I think kids should be able to give each other the massage is 17 year old boy in a 17 year old girl. Of course that should be able to make out and they should be able to fuck if you were to. I think it's our job to responsibly educate them about birth control and about consent and also you know there's different styles of parenting. Some people grow up in horrible households where the dads, massages, there's no mom and this kid's gonna have a fucked up idea what women are. Same could be sad about women or girls who grow up with a hateful mother or a hate's men. I mean, you have a lot of weird shit you have to get over as you become an adult, as you move out of the nest and you become your own person, establish your own ideas based on your life experiences and education, what you've learned from all the other people that you've interacted with. I mean, it's not a hard-fast rule, but I think there's a big difference between that and voting on what happens with our future, what happens with war, what happens with, there's so many things that a 16-year-old kid is just not ready for.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah. So yeah, I don't think we should regulate sex except for adult having sex with miners. I agree. I mean, when I was 17, my girlfriend was 16 and I remember I turned 18 and she turned 17 and there was a year old criminal. Yeah, someone told me that if we kept having sex that I would go to jail, I was like, what the fuck are you serious? This is madness. Yes. I mean, we've been banging it out for 11 months now. If we could stop now, Makes no sense. Yeah, I was really nervous. I was like, what if I go to jail? I don't think that works that way. I don't think they put you in jail for that, but yeah.

You're ruining that. I mean, the eight years that he was in the office. How many people were locked up for marijuana? Exactly exactly. Yeah, not just not just for selling, but for recreational use in certain states.

Not only that, the hypocritical nature of having all this coincide with the pharmaceutical industry selling opioids that are killing people at a radical rate while they take contributions from us. It's fucking crazy. I mean, they're literally a part of a drug dealing enterprise.

Yeah, I don't think anybody could rationally argue that. I mean, it just seems at this stage of the game, especially when it comes to things that are non-toxic or non-fatal, things like marijuana or cratum. There's no argument against it. It doesn't make any sense. Especially when you could go right down the street, you could go to the CVS and buy enough liquor to kill yourself instantly. Exactly. Exactly. Easily. Easily. Right here. That table right over there will kill you. Yeah, if you drink all that for sure. Yeah, there's a table over there with a big bottle of gentlemen's jack. There's a couple of bottles of whiskey to some whiskey from some place in Bakersfield and a big jug of wine dead drink all the shit dead 100%.

Yeah. I think it's the water. I think it's the moisture in the air, too. I wonder if the bagels are better in Seattle. Is it moisture up there? Right? It's wet.

I don't do it. I'm going to do it just because I got I got to compare man. I got to compare.

Yeah, it's better pizza for sure. Do you just go to Nicky's pizza? I went down street from my place.

I don't think so. No. Executive billiards, if you walked out of executive and take a right in white planes, Nicky's was on the right-hand side, but I heard Nicky's burnt down. Okay, Nicky's had, I only had never had white pizza before, until I went to Nicky's and I had white pizza, I'm like, holy shit, this one of the greatest things humans have ever created.

It's hard to remember. There was some bars there for sure, but there were old dive bars and shit. All we would do is go play pool. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there it is. Nicky's. Is it still there? Still there. I think it's still there. What's the signs? What's that stickers on the door? Was that shit on the door the right to the right of that looks like there's like closed down Yeah, I mean I was there like two years ago, so I mean it could have I could have could have closed since then I think that's Marriott's heat in white Plains is the you have to try it is open so it is open Yeah, also they must have did it burn down and they rebuilt it because that was yellow tape over the door like police tape Oh, yeah, they cleaned it up. Fucking god damn if they have the same recipe. Oh, run, do not walk. Run to Nicky's and get some of that white pizza or any other pizza.

We're the high school kids and a lot of mafia people who are gentlemen. The thing is like you just can't be in the wrong situation. You can't owe the money. You can't be in a situation where they can get money out of you or they can extort money from you, you know? And if you were running a business or anything where they offered you protection or any of that kind of shit like your fucked man.

Well, you know, we've talked about that many times that Cero's nightclub was owned by Bugsy Seagull. That's the comedy store. There you go. Yeah, there used to be a total mob run joint. And to this day, I don't believe in ghosts, but I go to the belly room. I've gone to the belly room several times with my friends, like over the 20 years that I've been there, we go by ourselves. When it's dark, just stand there. What do you think? If you only think?

Well, people have been murdered there for sure, and that's the thought process about that place, is that there's probably some leftover weird vibes, and I know a lot of people that have seen weird shit there, but I don't know if I believe them. They say they've seen where it should.

I've never seen a ghost there, but I felt weird. Like I said, I've gone into the main room when it's dark at night and I've begun by myself and I shit my pants. I gotta get out of here. But I definitely believe people were murdered there. There used to be a tunnel that would go from the back of the communist door all the way up to Crest Hill, which is a street above the communist door. The communist door used to own. I think they bought the two of them together. And it was like a tunnel where they take booze and dead people and shit and fucking scoot them up there and throw them in the back of a trunk. I don't know. It's a fun thing to talk about when you look at like all those TV shows that like haunted Hollywood, the comic story is very high on the list.

That is like the biggest like cockties of a show.

Yeah, that's right. You used to do it up until that time.

Well, that was one of the problems that happened when I was doing that sci-fi show that Joe Rogan questions everything showed. They wanted to make sure that I was an out to debunk a lot of the shows they would have on their network. And I go look, I just want to find out what's going on. I go, some of it's probably real. I want it to be real. That was an eye opening experience doing that show is very eye opening. So I realized what kind of people are really into these things. They're just whimsical, hopeful people that don't have much going on. They want it to be real that there's a 10 foot tall furry man living in the forest or that aliens come down and suck people out of their beds and bring them through walls in the middle of the night and all that shit.

Yeah, that's poor fox.

No. He thinks that most of what you see according to him. But see Alex, he goes with the weather a little bit too. He thinks most of what you see is just condensation trails that happen when you have a jet engine and you have the cold air and condensation in the atmosphere and that's what they are. I mean, there are artificial clouds that are created by a jet engine passing through the air. That's what they are. You can do it over and over again. You can do it right now. The idea that they're spraying something and that's something happens to have aluminum and barium in it, but it also looks exactly your cloud. No, that's moisture. The reason why it looks like a cloud is because it's a fucking cloud. And one of the things that I said in the chemtrail thing ago, you want to talk about real chemtrails. Here's the real chemtrail. They're burning gasoline in the sky above your head every day to the tune of thousands of flights. You're not concentrating on that. Instead, you're concentrating on the natural reaction of jet engines and moisture in the air. It's so stupid.

And you're not talking about it.

Um, I do wonder what's gonna happen with the indictments. I do wonder. So because people are pleading guilty now and, you know, the concern is that it's gonna trickle.

I mean, yes, people are getting, but if people are getting in diet, sure, with this rush of thing.

And this doesn't run down the Trump.

Do you think that they're just caught up in this sexy thing?

And it's also what the public is really focused on right now.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out. I'm really fascinated. And I'm fascinated to see if he can make it out of four years.

He does.

People left it because they didn't want it. They didn't want it to be true. Because yeah, because in the narrative story, all you saw was that there was like a 75% chance at Hillary was going to win.

They have such good articles too. They sprinkle in great articles. Well, here's silly horseshit.

It's got to be embarrassing for them.

Yeah. Kyle, it's been a lot of fun, man. This has been a lot of fun, man. I really appreciate it.

Thank you. Appreciate it. This was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed this. Thanks. Tell everybody where they could find your show.

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