Transcript for Three more Israeli hostages' bodies found in Gaza
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This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Jackie Leonard and at the 13 hours GMT on Friday the 24th of March, these are our main stories. Israel says it's recovered three more bodies of Israelis killed by Hamas in the October 7 attacks. A United Nations Special Advisor has warned of a risk of genocide in Sudan's Darfur region. And emergency efforts are underway after a massive landslide in a remote area of Papua New Guinea. Also in this podcast,
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vaping and smoking had sort of been steadily declining across all age groups. But in the time since disposable vapes came popular, discs completely shifted.
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New data on the use of disposable vapes says they're driving up nicotine use among young people who say they would never have taken up smoking. On October 7th last year, around 250 people were taken captive when Hamas attacked Israel. These rallies believe around 130 are still being held in Gaza. Last week Israel said it had recovered the bodies of three hostages from the territory. Now a spokesman for the Israeli Defense Forces Daniel Hagari says three more have been found.
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It is with a heavy heart that I share that last night. Israeli special forces in Gaza rescued the bodies of our hostages, Hanani of Lanka, Michel Nisenbaum, Oryon Hernandez. Their bodies were rescued during a special operation based on precise intelligence in the area of Gaza.
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Dan Johnson, our correspondent in Jerusalem told us more.
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So they were recovered overnight by the idea, which has been operating again in the Jabalia refugee camp in northern Gaza. This is an area that had previously been declared free of Hamas fighters, but it's somewhere they've gone back to. They've been taking out active Hamas units there, but also following up intelligence on where there is further Hamas infrastructure including underground tunnels and we believe it's with that intelligence that they've been able to locate and recover the bodies of these three men. Now Hanan, Yablanca and Orion, Hanandas were both killed trying to escape the Nova music festival in the south of Israel on the morning. of Saturday the 7th of October when Hamas fighters crossed from Gaza and stormed that music festival. These two men tried to escape but were killed in the process and we now know that their bodies were taken to Gaza straight away even though there was no information for many months about where they were. There had been hopes that they had survived. But recent evidence came to light that they had been killed in that attack and their bodies taken to Gaza. And the same is true of Michel Nisanbaum, who was 59. He was a grandfather who actually set off driving that morning to the south of Gaza to try to rescue his four-year-old granddaughter having seen the news of what was happening. That's when he encountered Hamas units He too was killed and his body taken to Gaza. Those three hostages bodies have now been recovered successfully and will be returned to their families. But this has prompted the families of other hostages to reassure their demand this morning for a deal to be negotiated to secure the successful return of hostages who are still alive.
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Now, meanwhile Israel obviously has been under a lot of pressure internationally over its military operations in Gaza. Mr Netanyahu has actually been invited to address a joint session of the US Congress. What's your assessment of that?
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Yes, this is a proposal from the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mr Netanyahu spoken to both houses of Congress before three times. Actually, this would be an unprecedented fourth, but it will be hugely divisive in America. I'm sure Mr Netanyahu will want to take the opportunity. He's reliant on U.S. support, and especially if he's facing the international arrest warrants that have been sought against him. The United States not signed up to the International Criminal Court. We'll be one of the few places that he's able to travel. So I'm sure he'd want to take the opportunity, but there will be huge division in American society. I'm sure we will see enormous protests in opposition and the huge political dilemma for Joe Biden. If Benjamin Netanyahu is in Congress, is he going to be invited to the White House? Will Joe Biden effectively boycott the visit? A lot of politics too. Calculate with a visit like that, which will pose huge questions and dilemmas for Joe Biden and others in U.S. politics.
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And looking at the international pressure on Israel, there have been several instances this week, including three European countries saying that they would formally recognize a Palestinian state for instance. How is all of this playing out?
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Yes, there's been furious angry reaction to the move made by Spain, Ireland, and Norway, but in particular, the spot is escalating with the Spanish. A Spanish minister was heard in a speech saying that she supported Palestine being free from the river to the sea. That's been declared anti-Semitic by figures in Israeli politics. It's prompted Israel's foreign minister. to say that he will block Spanish consular officials in Jerusalem, assisting Palestinians from the West Bank, and there's been a response from the Spanish Foreign Minister saying that move is unacceptable. All three countries and ambassadors in Israel were hauled into the foreign ministry. They were actually shown a video of Israeli hostages being held in Gaza, so the Israelis could underline how they feel that This move made by all three nations to recognize Palestinian statehood at this time is effectively in their view, rewarding Hamas for the terror attacks it carried out on the 7th of October, while it is still holding hostages in Gaza.
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A United Nations advisor has told the BBC that Sudan's Western Darfur region is on the verge of a genocide. Alice Wairimu under Ritu, the UN Special Advisor on the Prevention of genocide, said the rapid support forces were targeting communities based on their ethnicity. Around a million civilians are trapped in the city of Elfasha in Darfur, as Sudan's army tries to fight off the advancing paramilitary group the RSF. People inside that city have been sending us voice messages on their phones every day for the past week, and here is one of those. This man who wants to remain anonymous is in the Upshuk refugee camp on the fringes of all faster. He says RSF fighters are coming inside the camp and randomly killing people.
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Actually, I don't know how to describe the situation that we are facing nowadays. I was getting bad fighting everywhere and during the last few days we I've been freezing, or so many challenges, especially when the hours ever are trying to take over the city, and then they came to fight. There has been so many casualties in the camp, many people have been killed.
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The UN advisor on genocide, Alesswei, removed and deleted, addressed the security council on the issue earlier this week, and she spoke to James Copnell.
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The situation now bears all the marks of the risk of genocide.
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How do you come to that conclusion?
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We put together these risk factors from observing what kind of conditions existed in previous circumstances where genocide occurred and looking at the verdicts that came out of the decisions where people are convicted for the crime of genocide. We've able to predict that genocide could be occurring or has occurred.
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And to be clear here, we are talking about genocide towards the Zagawa, Masalit and Fur ethnic groups in Darfur carried out by the Rapid Support Forces, the RSF and Allied Arab militia.
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That's what we are discussing here, specifically targeted towards the Zagane communities who also happen to be the modern cascading
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There is a long history in Darfur of conflict between Zagawa, Masalid and Fur who see themselves as African and Arab groups within Darfur. Why do you think we're at the point now where you are raising these incredibly worrying concerns about the possibility of genocide?
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Because these are an absence of accountability for genocide-related crimes, we've seen it contributing to the current episodes of horror. And so, we must keep supporting the work of those who are documenting what's happening.
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There are concerns that what is happening in terms of the targeting of civilians could really accelerate if the RSF overrun Elfasha. Is that a concern you share?
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It's a concern I share and when I went to chat and visited the people who had managed to escape and when I was a spoke to other refugees who are now in Uganda in Egypt, they all spoke about being targeted by the RSF and this attacks and villages outside Elfasha, clearly the be a science of not having military objectives and that they are just meant to cause displacement and fear. And these people are telling me they were being accused by the arrest of supporting the Sudanese armed forces. They told me about sexual violence. They told me about the looting of property, how their life stock was resolved, how their crops were destroyed. These complete total breakdown of law and other I have said it, the UN Secretary General, Anthony Gutierrez, has said it too, that increased hostilities in Elfasha have now opened a really alarming reach up to in this conflict. And now he calls for a concerted global push for a ceasefire. For me, I'm calling for the same and I'm also calling for attention. I've been trying to get my voice out. But the way in Gaza, the way in Ukraine, have drowned out the fact that we are calling out that there are risk factors for atrocity crimes, war crimes in genocide, in Sudan, and specifically in the fall, people have been targeted there on the basis of their ethnicity.
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Now let's worry, move on to the United Nations Special Advisor of the Secretary General on the Prevention of Genocide, and she was speaking to James Copnow. As many as 100 people are feared to have been killed by a huge landslide in Papua New Guinea, thousands of tons of rocks and debris cascaded onto a village in a remote area in the north, a desperate search is now underway to find survivors. Belinda Korra is a reporter for ABC and the capital port Morseby.
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The very shocking news across the country and pop up at the beginning. At this time, we are still to confirm any details, specific details to the debt toll and of course some recovery efforts at this time due to the accessibility at this time where the rugged terrain with this disaster actually happened. is now becoming a shoe and challenge for authorities. The landslide had covered the main highway, so the accessibility into the area would be by a chopper or probably airplane, but at this time they cannot be able to actually confirm if their help has actually arrived in the area.
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Scores of homes have been buried, Andrew Wings spoke to the BBC from the site of the disaster, and he said hundreds of people might have lost their lives.
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This is a massive destruction, the two-place, more than 300 lives were lost. Right now, those lives are covered by the rocks and the debris right now here. The bodies are standing right at the back of me, so much standing in front. And these are placed at cover. These are horrible things that happened in the province.
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Australia's forum minister has said her country is ready to assist in recovery efforts. The social media pictures show a section of mountainside that appears to have broken away. Our reporter Phil Mercer is monitoring events from Australia.
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In the middle of the night about three o'clock in the morning, a part of and nearby mountains simply gave way, sharing a village nearby with rocks and other debris and those social media videos you described show boulders some as biggest cars and also other large trees people clambering over the debris using macheteers and exes to try to free people underneath. Now the big question at the moment is how many people have been affected? We simply don't know. We've heard from the Papua New Guinea Prime Minister James Morapé who says that national relief efforts will be deployed. And he says that information is still coming in. And a big part of the problem is that anger province is extremely remote. And some of the roads up near the landslide have also been blocked.
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And as you say, there's a lot that we can't possibly know yet. But what sorts of numbers are in that region? Do we have any idea about the sorts of numbers of people who could be affected?
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for their speculation that 100 people or more could be trapped or missing. And this is all happening in a very remote part of Papua New Guinea. And when you look at the country it occupies the eastern half of the island of New Guinea. It's home to about 10 million people. It's also home to an amazing array of indigenous languages more than 850. And the reason or one of the reasons there are so many languages is that so many of these communities live for pretty isolated lives. So that explains firstly why the emergency effort regarding the landslide is taking time and also, secondly, while information detailed information about the number of people affected is also slow to emerge.
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That was Phil Mercer. China's armed forces have practiced seizing key areas in and around Taiwan on a second-day of military exercises around the island. The Chinese Army released an animated video showing missiles raining down on Taiwan, a self-governing territory that Beijing claims. We keep our story reports.
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China has focused its attention on securing the sea in airspace to the east of Taiwan. It deployed fighter jets armed with live weapons, Beijing is also trying to frighten people in Taiwan. It released an animated video showing missiles written down on the island, a self-government territory that Beijing considers its own. The island's new president, Lai Qing Duh, came to power just four days ago. In his inaugural address, he'd urge China to stop its military intimidation. That request has been ignored.
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That was Mickey Bristol. Still to come in this podcast, revisiting the South Africa, 30 years on from the nation's first democratic election, and the week before the next one.
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It was estimated a few years ago that 80 million people around the world use e-cigarettes or vapes. Their marketers less harmful than tobacco and helpful to people who are trying to quit smoking. But a new study in England says that they're driving up the use of nicotine among young people. The data compiled by researchers at University College London found the use of disposable vapes had tripled among 18 to 24-year-olds while smoking has barely fallen. It also discovered that people who would never have taken up smoking were now vaping. Louis is a 21-year-old student who started vaping before he smoked at age 18.
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I thought I was not as bad for me and what tastes nice in the cigarette. I didn't like the taste cigarettes to start off with. So it's cheaper. That's number one. It's seen as a safe third in the smoking, which number two. Number three is that obviously it doesn't smell as much. You can do it in your house. You can do it anywhere you want to without serious consequences. Well, obviously, you know, you can't really smoke in the house. Well, obviously, you can't think of a big smell where with vaping, it leaves no trace pretty much. I find it's much easier to give up cigarettes than it is to give up vaping. I think vaping because it's so convenient and it's cheap and it's available. If it was even 10, 20, 30 years earlier, I'd probably be on cigarettes all the time.
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Dr. Harry Tassen, Birch, lead author of the study and research fellow in behavioral science and health at University College in London. Tell us more about what they found.
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We've been monitoring trends in smoking and vaping in the population for a really long time now. And one of the biggest changes that occurred was since around mid-2021, we saw the introduction of these modern disposable vapes. And they really rapidly became popular among young people. What we wanted to see was whether there's been an impact of this rise in disposable vaping on overall trends in smoking and vaping in England. Vaping and smoking had sort of been steadily declining across all age groups. But in the time since the disposable Vapes came popular, discs completely shifted. So the percentage of 18 to 24 year olds who they tripled from 9% to 29%. So almost a third of. young adults now who are vaping, smoking continued to decline, but just not as quickly as the vaping increase, which meant that overall we've seen an increase in the percentage of young people using nifting. If we look at people who report having never regularly smoked, that's where we saw the biggest increase, where it went from 2% to 9%. The slight nuance there is that in the old age groups, where there were smaller increases in vaping, smoking declined more slowly or not at all. So it is likely that some people have been diverted away from smoking cigarettes. There's a lot of evidence now to show that vaping is likely to be much less harmful than cigarettes smoking. So, whether it's a good or bad thing for an individual depends on what that individual would otherwise be doing. If they'd otherwise be smoking cigarettes, it's a good thing that they're vaping. But obviously, we don't want to see lots of people have never smoked, starting to vape.
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Dr. Harry Tassenberg. Over the last two weeks, Russia has taken advantage of a weakened Ukrainian front line in the Harkiv region in northeastern Ukraine. There are reports of fierce fighting with Russian forces saying that they've captured another village in the nearby Donetsk region. Our international editor Jeremy Bowen has managed to reach the city of Harkiv, and he spoke to us from there.
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At the moment, I'm at the beginning of a funeral for a policeman who was killed evacuating civilians from the front-line town of Vocchance Square. A lot of the fighting is going on, really, it's an unbearably solemn and sad occasion here for the people. You had the feeling really of people who are in this very much for the long haul, who are in for them an existential struggle for their their nation and you know there's sense of determination but yesterday I was at the not far from here a place which was hit by Russian missiles and then you also got this feeling from their point of view that they're quite defenseless in many ways because that Russian fuselage of missiles they weren't able to knock any of them out of the air because they don't have the air defense that they would like to have I think they feel they're in a really difficult struggle here They say they've stabilized the front line. They've moved some more experienced units, but they're also very aware that what the Russians are trying to do is to stretch out what already quite thinly manned positions. to make it easier for them to attack elsewhere, particularly south east of here in the the Donbass area where they are still pushing hard and where the Russians are claiming to have taken more villages and certainly they have had more movement there from the Russian point of view than they've had for many months and that's because the Ukrainians don't have the soldiers that they require and they don't have the heavy artillery and they don't have the air defenses so the Russians are able to use their air force in a way that they weren't able to earlier in the war. So for the Ukrainians, and this comes from President Zelensky down, there in a very, very difficult position at the moment, because even though the Americans have okayed those deliveries of weapons, it's going to take weeks and months and to get here.
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that was Jerry Bowen in Ukraine. South Africans head to the polls next week, 30 years on from the nation's first democratic election, which followed decades of a brutal and racist apartheid regime. The BBC's furgo keen was reporting there at the time and has returned to the country to see what has changed. He sent this report from Johannesburg.
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White rule on the continent of Africa came to an end at seven o'clock South African time this morning. It did not come through violent rebellion. There were no cheers.
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It's looking at a line of people, elderly people, the sick, stretching right around this church and down as far as I could see into the distance along the road here. The most striking thing that was said to me that morning, I asked an elderly man, his name was Simon Kaptain. He glossed one of his sons to the struggle, another in exile. And I said to him, what does today mean to you? And he said, today I became a human being once more. Thirty years later, democracy has endured. But so too has staggering inequality. 10% of the population owns over 80% of the wealth. About half an hour's drive away from the rally at Rabi Ridge north of Johannesburg, there's a vast field of flattened tin and plastic shelters that belonged to thousands of people evicted from state land that was slated for development. Houses for the poor are meant to be built here, but the backlog is huge and the waiting is long. A tent has been set up which has just got a roof basically and everything else has opened to the elements and opened to the main road with cars, trucks, everything passing by and right across from me there are women and children sleeping there and as I just turn around I can see The tower blocks of Santa, shining modern business development area with acre after acre of homes with swimming pools. And it just reinforces a massive inequality that persists in this society 30 years after the democratic elections.
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The reason why I came this side I wanted to build a foundation for my siblings so that they can have a warm home.
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Storia Lala came to Johannesburg like generations before her because she believed there would be work here. But unemployment is now running at over 30%. And billions of pounds have been squandered through corruption.
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We don't feel as if we have the freedom that we need to have. There's a whole lot of corruption happening. As a human being living here, I feel oppressed by my government and I feel discriminated
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Back in Soweto near the church where I'd watched people vote for the first time, a group of elderly people chatted in the fading light of afternoon. Here I heard the suspicion that people's gratitude for liberation 30 years ago had saved successive ANC governments from voter dissatisfaction.
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I think the politicians, they took advantage because we were happy.
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You're still happy.
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We saw that for you. Oh well, that's not much because the red turban is now too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far too far
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I should vote because I must have a voice tomorrow. The devil you know, it's better than the devil that you don't know.
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Do you mean the AFC? Yes. An older generation that remembers the pain of a party might be more forgiving in the coming polls. but enduring inequality and anger over corruption means the ANC Africa's oldest liberation movement can no longer take for granted the votes of the excluded and the poor.
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That was Virgil Keen. Now, as we have been recording this podcast, the UN's highest court has been ruling, and it says that Israel must immediately halt its military offensive in Raffa. The case was brought to the international court of Justice by South Africa, which accuses Israel of violating the genocide convention. It argued an injunction is vital to ensure the survival of the Palestinian people. The Israeli government has said no power on earth would stop it protecting its citizens and pursuing Hamas in Gaza. The ICJ has no enforcement powers, but any decision against Israel would carry international weight. That is news that's just breaking as we record this edition of the global news podcast. There will be a lot more on that. In the next edition, recorded later. Supporters of Pakistan's former Prime Minister Imran Khan have clashed with government workers, sent him with bulldozers, to demolish his party's headquarters in Islamabad. The government said part of the building had been constructed illegally. From Islamabad, Caroline Davis reports.
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Late last night officials in Islamabad arrived at Imran Khan's party headquarters in the capital with Dickens. The building they said had been constructed violating building bylaws, and that despite government notices the party had not complied. Now, they were here to shut it down. Mr. Khan has been in prison since last August, but his party has continued to operate. He's accused the authorities and Pakistan's powerful military of targeting him and his party, which both deny. In February's elections, candidates affiliated to Mr. Khan won the largest number of seats. there in opposition after other parties formed an alliance. Footage shows the government officials met by anger at the site. Mr. Khan's party called the act, patently illegal and unlawful, saying that they did not have enough time to file a petition. Several leaders of the party and more than 20 party workers have been charged with attacking officials and firing weapons in the air during the incident. The headquarters have now been sealed.
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Caroline Davis in Islamabad. A familiar site will be missing at this year's Olympics. The Uzbek Gymnastok Sarnar to Savitana has announced that she has an injury and will miss the qualifying stage for the Paris Olympics. To Savitana is no ordinary athlete, she's 48 years old and first competed in the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona. Jessica Wilkins is following her story, so what do we know about the injury?
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We don't actually know a lot about her injury. She hasn't been specific at all. She did make the announcement earlier on an Instagram video but most of that was thanking her fans for their support and apologising for the fact that she wasn't going to be able to compete at the Asian Games. She's sustained an injury that will make competing there impossible and it really was her last chance to qualify for the Olympics via the Asian Championships. However, it should be noted that in order to get that qualifying slot she would have had to have won best overall athlete in gymnastics in order to do so, which is a tool order at any age, but at 48 would have been really quite spectacular.
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As you say, it's been a very long career. What drove her to keep competing?
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She competed under three different teams, that was partly to do with politics, but more importantly to do with the health of her son. He was diagnosed with leukemia at the age of three, and it became apparent that he was not going to be able to get the medical support he needed in Uzbekistan, which he was able to relocate to Cologne in Germany, but that was under the condition that she competed for the German team and through a variety of sports clubs and the Olympic team in Germany. She was able to pay for all the medical bills and treatment that Hassan needed. And we should say that Hassan is now happy and healthy in his 20s. So, it did all come good in the end.
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As you say, at the age of 48, it has been a long career. Most gymnasts are not competing at that age. So, is this the end of her career?
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Well, we don't officially know yet. Now, it would be a shame if it was. So, if you want to put it in perspective of it, how long her career was. She first competed in 1992 at the Barcelona Games. and that was under the banner of the Unified Team, which was what the old team of the Soviet Union was referred to. Now she won a gold team medal there, but she did apparently retire once for 12 hours, changed to mind. And then on top of that she was meant to retire off the Tokyo Games, but again, didn't bother in the end, so this might be it, it might not. That was Jessica Wilkins.
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And that's it from us for now, but there will be a new edition of the Global News Podcast later. If you'd like to comment on this edition or the topics covered in it, do please send us an email, the address is global podcast at vbc.co.uk. You can also find us on X at Global News Podcast. This edition was mixed by Javig Galani. The producer was Stephanie Tilletson. Our editor is Karen Martin. I'm Jackie Leonard and until next time. Goodbye.
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press freedom. The reasons why it's under increasing pressure.
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How the mass use of drones has changed the way the war is being fought.
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The trends behind the fast-changing media landscape.
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The explanation from the BBC World Service takes a deep dive into the big stories affecting our lives, giving you an honest, unvarnished explanation of the world. Search for the explanation wherever you get your BBC podcasts.