Transcript for Passenger dies after severe turbulence on long haul flight
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This is the Global News podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Andrew Peach and in the early hours of Wednesday, the 22nd of May, these are our main stories. A passenger has died and dozens have been injured after a plane flying from London and counted severe turbulence. Ukraine has expressed gratitude to the EU for sending its profits generated from sea's Russian central bank assets, but as the assets themselves should be used for Kiev's war effort. Lawyers for Donald Trump have rested their case in the fraud trial of the former US president. Also in this podcast, 16 of the world's largest AI firms have agreed on new safety guidelines at the Global Artificial Intelligence Summit.
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And we found that around periods of artillery fire or intense shelling, upwards deviated from their normal routes coising them to change direction and drive further than they normally would on migration.
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Now the war in Ukraine is affecting migrating birds. What man has died and 30 people have been injured after a Singapore bound flight from London was rocked by severe turbulence while cabin crew was serving breakfast. The Singapore Airlines plane made an emergency landing in Bangkok and some of those on board have been describing it as the worst day of their lives. Andrew Davis was there.
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Literally, I think, as soon as I put it on, just a sudden, sudden thought and the aircraft dropping. The thing that really stays in my mind is just seeing possessions and problems and plates just flying up. But when it stopped, everybody was very shaken and it sounds crazy to say, no, I did go through my mind. Is this fatal? Is this going down? I mean, remembering the play now, though, a huge fence in the roof where people had obviously hit with their head. There was a water bottle stuck in a gap in the ceiling. A bit of seat back lying on the floor. It was really sounding fine, but I don't think I realized how awful it was. An unfortunately, the dentist did the disease life, which was sitting at the shoe on the road on the road behind me.
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Jerry and his family were walking around as the plane plunged.
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It was a long way, so sudden, there was no warning at all. And I ended up hitting my head on the ceiling, my wife did. Some poor people are walking around and ended up doing some assaults. Ended up in the hospital and it was fairly chaotic, lots of injured people. They say 30, seeing more than 30 to me.
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a correspondent Theo Legger told me more.
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So what happened with this aircraft was it took off at about 10 30 pm local time from London's Heathrow Airport on Monday evening. It flew for about 10 hours and then it encountered this area of turbulence as it was crossing the Bay of Bengal. We don't know exactly what happened. I witnessed the counts say that people were thrown upwards into the storage cabins that the oxygen masks came down that debris was flying through the cabin. We've seen photos of it. But the net result is that tragically one person died, a British gentleman of 73, and a large number of other people were injured, some of them seriously.
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So there's no reason to think that he wanted anything wrong here. We're just talking about something that can happen in very unusual circumstances on a flight. And I suppose the likelihood is it's the people who happen to be wondering around the plane at that time going to the loo going for a walk who would have been at greatest risk.
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Absolutely, airlines do go to a great deal of trouble to try and divert aircraft around areas in which they think they may encounter turbulence. And sometimes you can see it, storm cells, for example, planes will try and divert around those because they know that they will encounter turbulence. But there's a phenomenon called clear air turbulence, which is much more difficult to spot. And pilots often rely on what the previous aircraft going through that area has said about the weather conditions so that they know whether to avoid it or not. So sometimes an aircraft will fly through severe turbulence without being able to avoid it. And in those cases, yes, it's simple bad luck. If you happen to be moving around the aircraft, you're not restrained. You're the person who is more likely to be injured, which is why when we travel on board planes, the pilot will tell you, if you're sitting down, please keep your seatbelt loosely fastened because it can prevent injuries.
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We know patterns of weather around the world are changing rapidly. Is there any reason to think that this kind of turbulence will happen more often?
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Well, if you listen to the climate scientists, yes, it's possible, though as some research done by the University of Reading quite recently, in fact, which suggested that these kind of episodes are becoming more common and will continue to do so during due to changes in the atmosphere brought on probably by climate change. But they are fairly common incidents anyway, fatalities are rare. But some research done by the National Transportation Safety Board in the United States, quite recently, found that turbulence was one of the main causes of injuries in flights. Still rare, but they do happen.
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Our correspondent fear leg it with me. It's a plan that's been on the table since 2022. Now the European Union has formally approved the use of windfall profits from frozen Russian central bank assets to arm Ukraine. The news comes as key of continues to urge its allies to ramp up military aid for its troops, who are struggling to stay often in tense, Russian offensive in the east. Speaking alongside his German counterpart in Kiev, Ukraine's Foreign Minister Demetro Collaber, called for the EU to go even further.
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I was a halloween as one was now, I'm sure, where it is.
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We all know that the Russian frozen assets are worth around 260 billion euros. While we are grateful for this decision today, the value does not correspond in size to the amount of frozen assets. That is why the third step, which we have been talking about since the beginning of the year, should actually be the confiscation of the assets themselves.
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Are you a regional editor, Danny Abohard, is following the story?
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Most of the Russian central bank assets outside Russia are held by the European Union or in the European Union countries Belgium is the big one. So all that, 260 billion that you heard Demetra Calabba mentioned, about $220 billion is held within the EU. So the interest they think might earn about $3 billion this year alone. So that's a sizable fee. And basically what the EU is proposing is that a little bit of that interest is held by the institutions that hold the money to cover potential litigation, but most of it is being going to be used to help Ukraine arm itself and then a small amount of it will be used to help its defence industry and also reconstruction. There are some EU countries that are military neutral and they wanted to make sure that that option was available as part of the spend.
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Ukraine saying, what about the assets themselves? That money would be useful. Meanwhile, it's taken the EU quite a long time to get to this point.
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It certainly has legally, it's extremely complicated. So there's a running debate, Andrew, about how to help Ukraine. The idea being that under international law, Russia would be liable for the damages from its war of aggression. The EU is very clear. It says Russia's full scale invasion was illegal and justifiable and unprovoked. So if that's the case, it's what to do next. This is a first step. There is a wider debate confiscation of assets. That's what Ukraine wants. There's also a potential third way, which is to use the Russian assets as collateral for a big loan to Ukraine that would be paid off through interest over years. There is fears that this may actually undermine the international financial system and Christine Laguna, the head of the European Central Bank, recently warned that if Kiev's allies are trying to protect the international order, that this may actually undermine it. So this debate is a running one. The G7 is looking into it and hopes to have some sort of update in the weeks and months ahead. There's a summit next month in Italy.
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Anything from the Kremlin yet, who presumably won't be happy?
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The Kremlin will be in sense by this. I mean, they are very clear. They say that Russian assets are protected by sovereign immunity that they would try to pursue through the international courts, any attempt to seize either the assets themselves or revenues from them. And they've also threatened retaliation. So we wait to see precisely what that retaliation could involve after this move.
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are your original editor, Danny Abahard. Both sides have now rested their cases in the sixth week of Donald Trump's criminal trial, without the former president following through on his vow to testify. A jury will now decide if Mr. Trump was involved in covering up a payment to the adult film actress Stormy Damials, allegedly to silence her. Mr. Trump denies any involvement in their sore claims he had sex with her. I spoke to our North America correspondent, Ned Atorfic, in New York.
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It would have been quite a moment, and one that Donald Trump himself said that he would do, he had said publicly he would testify, but look, many legal analysts had doubted. He would, given the fact that he would open himself up to damaging questions by prosecutors. questions that could hurt not just the legal case potentially but also would be quite embarrassing potentially for his run for the White House questions like if he slept with the adult film stars stormy Daniels which he has always denied and so no surprise really that Donald Trump has opted out of testifying of course jurors can't fold that against him because the burden of proof here is on the prosecution. And so we will see the judge remind the jury that they cannot hold it against the former president for not testifying.
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So we've heard both sides of the argument. What happens now?
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Well, now the jury is going to come back to court next week, and next Tuesday after the long US holiday weekend, and that is when they will hear closing arguments by both sides. Now, the prosecution has laid out their case to jurors over 20 witnesses, 200 pieces of evidence. And the defense on the other hand has kind of tried to so doubt in their questions. They ultimately called just two witnesses. So closing arguments from the defense are going to be particularly interesting to listen to because that's when the defense is going to kind of wrap up their key arguments for the jury and how they see the evidence fitting into that. After that, the judge will instruct the jury on how they should interpret the law to come up with a decision of whether the prosecution has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Donald Trump did falsify these business records in order to cover up the crime of trying to break election laws in the United States. And then the jury will get this case and they will deliberate.
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Now, the topic in New York. Three days, our funeral ceremonies have begun in Iran for President Ebrahim Reyesi who died in that helicopter crash on Sunday. Thousands of mortars have joined a procession behind his coffin. But our diplomatic correspondent Caroline Hawley says not everyone in Iran is mourning the loss of their President.
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tightly packed crowds turned out to greet the open-sided truck carrying the body of President Ray C. Iran's foreign minister and the six others who also died in the crash. Some owners try to push themselves forward to touch the coffins. A few broke down in tears. But most Iranians won't mourn the death of a hard-line president, deeply unpopular for his role in crushing dissent. C. Avash Adalan of BBC Persian has been monitoring social media to gauge the mood in Iran.
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You have three groups of people, those who are opposed to the government who are very happy that the president is dead. And then you have the social base of the regime, people who are genuinely upset that their president has died and are taking part in different morning ceremonies. And then you have a whole bunch of people who are just going to use this opportunity, this five day public holiday, to go away to the country, to their cottage and just get away from it all.
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The Iranian police and air reported to a files dozens of cases against people and publications for applauding the crash. Shaken by the sudden death of its president, the regime is attempting to show strength and project a sense of continuity. Crers were said at the start of a meeting of the powerful assembly of experts, the group which appoints a new Supreme Leader, the ultimate authority in the Islamic Republic. Ayatollah Ali Hamanii, the incumbent, is now 85 years old, and Ibrahim Raisi had been seen as a potential successor. A morning ceremony will be held for him in Tehran tomorrow. Russia and the Taliban are due to send representatives. It's not clear who else will attend.
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A capulco in Mexico was once a big tourist destination, but were the rapid increase in violence those days are gone. Now, 10 people have been found murdered, just days before elections. I've been speaking to our Mexico correspondent Will Grant.
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the most grizzly killings were of two women and four men. That was near a market. Now this dispute of exact numbers but at least three others were killed in a separate shooting in a neighborhood late at night. That may have actually been four deaths according to local media and then there was another incident in the tourist part of town which adds either another one or two more bodies so that the final total in a 24-hour period is either 10 or 12 deaths. It is a shocking day of violence in Acupuncture but ultimately not that uncommon. So it is a very very dangerous period in the city's history.
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And we'll help me with the change there because Acca Porco is associated with glamour with tourism. It's depicted in movies and songs and all that kind of thing. One thing's changed so much.
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What I think it's sort of 1950s, hey days, now a long, long time ago. Of course, it still has the image of this faded grandeur of a destination for the rich and famous, you know, the association with Elvis and of stars of the 1950s and so on, Johnny Bice Muller. But in truth, Akapulcois is situated in Gede, or one of the most violent states in Mexico. And it is a place where cartel control is absolute in certain neighborhoods of Akapulco, other parts of the state to in dispute. So there is violence involved in all of the key industries in which drug cartels are interested, whether or not that's obviously the drugs themselves. the movement of migrants, the tracking of guns, the movement of money, even into the agricultural sector in that state and the cartel involvement in the avocado industry, for example, the control of the ports to bring in precursor chemicals for the production of methamphetamine and of fentanyl. So yeah, it is an extremely difficult period in get-ed or in an in-ackable goal.
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and the elections coming up from your description, security must be playing a big part in them.
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Yeah, security is increasingly, you know, that one of the key issues in the election, it appeared in a big way in the last presidential debate, with, of course, opponents saying that the government hasn't done enough under President and that his man will lock his up to the door, and therefore trying to attack his candidate. They candidate from his party, Claudia Shainbaum, who's the frontrunner to become Mexico's first woman president, With the debate really circles around the role of the military, President Oppa Zola, who's put the entire fight in terms of the leading the security strategy in the hands of the military to a large extent. But he's also said that the concept should be hugs not bullets, what they call a brassos, no belassos in Spanish.
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Well Grant, with me from Mexico. And still to come in this podcast? by a catchy North Korean tune isn't hitting the right note in South Korea.
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16 of the world's largest AI firms have agreed on new safety guidelines at the Global Artificial Intelligence Summit, which was opened by the British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and his South Korean counterpart in Seoul. They pledged that if their tools don't meet certain safety thresholds, they'll stop developing them or allowing them to be used. Those thresholds, we set in 2025 at the next summit in France. Here's our technology editor, Zoe Climan.
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Today is the first day of this virtual summit which brings together world leaders and is being hosted by Rishi Sunak. At the heart of the discussion was how to ensure that the rapidly evolving AI technology can be deployed safely in order to maximise its benefits while minimizing its risks. A recent report by the Institute for AI Safety set up six months ago acknowledged that there were currently in-as-equipped methods for understanding exactly how AI tools produced their output even for their developers. Andrew Straits from the Independent Research Organization, the aid of Lovelace Institute, said tougher rules were needed.
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Volunteer commitments are not sufficient if we're trying to get to the angle of safe and reliable AI systems that are benefiting people. Volunteer commitments essentially are just a means of firms marking their own homework. They're written in a way where they're often very vague and it's very easy for firms to say the things they're already doing fit within them. It's essentially no replacement for legally binding and enforceable rules.
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Today the EUA Act also got its final green light, becoming the world's first legislation governing the booming AI sector. It contains strict rules about how AI tools can operate with tough penalties for fans which fail to comply.
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The authorities in the Indian capital have ordered the immediate closure of schools because of an intense heat wave. On Monday, temperatures in Delhi reached 47 degrees Celsius. The BBC's India business correspondent Arun Day Mukaji sent us this report about conditions in the city.
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I'm in Delhi and it's early evening, but still no signs of the day cooling down in the run up to sunset. It's 45 degrees Celsius right now, sunny and very bright. As soon as you walk out in the open, there is a burning sensation on your skin. When you're trying to breathe in, It feels like you're breathing in hot fumes from an exhaust fan. It's that bad. There is a light wind blowing which is making matters worse because it literally slaps against your face, reminding you just how hot it is. People are walking around with umbrellas to try and shield themselves from the sun or have had to cover their heads and faces to battle the intense heat. Now just imagine the plight of all those who have to work in these conditions, like the laborers, construction workers and delivery agents, sweating it out. Also imagine India is conducting a massive election in the seat. We have seen voter turnout being impacted, which is why polling authorities have had to extend voting timing sometimes to make it a bit easier for people coming out to vote. And from an economy point of view, well, this heat could affect inflation if crop production and transport is hit. The warning for now, though, is whether officials say this heat will prevail for the next few days in several parts of North, West and Central India.
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the street vendor who sells food in this kind of temperature with no refrigeration if they're on a cart or an unshaded place. Their food goes bad. Their income goes down because they may have to reduce the number of hours that they are doing their economic work. They may have less consumers on the streets, but if you look at another sector where, say, domestic worker works in somebody's home, they walk in this heat twice a day and they move from one house to another, doing part-time work, which may be cooking, cleaning, etc. Those who do cooking are in front of a hot stove for long hours.
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There is increasing evidence that in places like India, it is women often who bear the brunt of the excessive heat when it comes to the workplace. Is that what you hear? Is that what you see?
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There are some sectors which are dominated by women and domestic work is one and home this work is another. Both of these are invisible in the sense that they are in either your employer's home or in your own home and women are often combining economic activity with their care activity. So they have to take care of their own households, hydration, families, hydration, well-being, health, if anybody falls there. So that increases their work button. At the employee's house, it is not factored in that this kind of impact of heat, for instance, is impacting them. So no access to toilets, to clean drinking water or shade or somewhere to sit or they have to invest in their own umbrellas, in their own water bottles, all of those are eating into that income. Some of the adaptation strategies which are used by the informal workers, for instance, change in time of work. So during the really hot hours you don't work. Now a woman may not have that kind of flexibility to shift the economic work and care work because she really suffers from time poverty. Her day is long and divided into care responsibilities and economic activities.
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You have very eloquently talked about the challenges that women face. They don't have much protection from the problems that you have outlined. What more can be done to offer them protection?
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So the heat stress plans that exist, for instance, they also identify vulnerable groups. But there are short term measures in terms of awareness, reducing the hours of work. But for a worker who lives hand to mouth, reducing the hours of work is never an option. So, you know, we have to think of more broader protection. So, we have to think of better housing, climate resilience, social protection schemes. We have to think of climate change or heat stress insurance and schemes, workers can buy. So, we have to think also, short term and long term.
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Shalini Sinha with Rahul Tandon. Now, to a rather magnificent creature, which rejoices in the Latin name, Klanger Klanger. That's the sound of a greater spotted eagle, a rare migratory bird of prey which flies every year to better use in Eastern Europe to breed. Better use is a neighbour of Ukraine, and it seems as if the war there is disrupting the eagle's flight pass and potentially their ability to reproduce. Charlie Russell of the University of East Anglia in the UK has been following 19 of these eagles for a new study published in the journal Current Biology. He spoke to James Menendis.
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We started working with Great Spotted Eagles back in 2017. This is part of a wider project to conserve the wetlands that they live in. To do that, we started fitting GPS trackers to birds so we could understand their movements and what habitats that we're using to better inform conservation efforts. We never really expected to be using these GPS tracks and following them through an active conflict zone when we started this work.
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when they were migrating and they were getting close to Ukraine. What was happening? What were the battles that were going on, the artillery fire, the shell fire? What was that doing to their flight paths?
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As they were kind of returning to the breeding grounds, I'm an entering Ukraine. We were seeing on the news as the conflict broke out in Ukraine, kind of what was going on and following our birds and their GPS tracks to see if they could be any impact on them. And we found that around periods of kind of artillery fire or you know intent shelling our birds deviated from them normal. roots, causing them to change direction and fly further than they normally would on migration. And this was kind of on average about 85 kilometers further, but some birds flew as far as 250 additional kilometers compared to previous migrations. Not only were they flying further and expanding more energy to do that, they were making fewer stopovers as well. And these are really important periods for them to either shelter from poor weather conditions or in some of the most extreme cases, it's almost like running a marathon but not being able to take any water breaks and having to go in extra seven or eight miles at the end of it. There'll be arriving at the breeding grounds a little bit late to the normal and a lot more tired from this migration. And their fitness at that time is really important for when they start breeding.
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Do you suspect that this is happening to all the migrating greater spotted eagles that this is a pattern that you would expect to find in most of the population?
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Well, we work is home to an estimated 150 breeding pairs of great spotted eagles. We suspect that most of these birds all have migrated through Ukraine. Many of them free more intense conflict areas than the birds that we were tracking.
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What is it that's special about these birds? I imagine they're pretty impressive, are they?
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They're a wonderful bird. They're not the most eagerly of eagles. When you think about eagles, you think of these, you know, large and majestic soaring birds. You can quite commonly see them in these open wetland areas. Waddling around and puddles, eating things like frogs and lizards, which I just find really quite endearing.
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the sounds of the greatest spotted eagle there with researcher Charlie Russell. Now what do you think of this? It's a song from North Korea called Friendly Farther, describing the virtues of its leader Kim Jong-un. It's become a hit on TikTok since it's released last month. South Korea is less keen. In fact, media regulators in Seoul said they're banning this Pyongyang propaganda piece. But at Kyo, asked our Asia-Pacific editor, Sidia Hatton, what's going on?
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But it's catchy, isn't it? And that's really the issue in South Korea. The media regulator has banned access to the song under the National Security Act. They say this song idolizes and glorifies North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un. They say it's a form of psychological warfare because they say the song and the video that goes with it were actually made for an audience outside North Korea and because the song is in Korean of course it's going to be more interesting to those in South Korea than anyone else who doesn't speak Korean so they say this really is a threat and they're going to take all 29 versions of the song that have gone viral across TikTok and YouTube they're going to take that down and They really are concerned that this song is more than just something that's quite catchy.
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So why are they feeling, why is a sad feeling so threatened?
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Well, people in South Korea say, they think the song is fun to listen to. They like to listen to it in the gym. They say it kind of harks back to a bygone era. But the South Korean authorities are worried because they think the people are becoming a bit complacent about risks. And that's because relations with neighboring North Korea are really dropping to quite a low at the moment. A military pact between the two was thrown out last November. We've seen a huge rise in the number of weapons tests conducted by North Korea. And of course, we have to remember that North Korea now has a really powerful backer in Russia. And Russia is stopping the UN from monitoring North Korea. It's North Korea. It's gotten new technology help. It's really overhauling its weapon systems with Russia's help. And so South Korea really wants to remind its own population that the threat from North Korea is still very real and is still very present.
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Asia Pacific, and it is Celia Hatton. And that's all from us. For now, there'll be a new edition of Global News to download later. If you'd like to comment on this podcast, email globalpodcast at BBC.co.uk or on x, we are at global news pod. This edition was mixed by Caroline Dress School, the producer was Stephanie Tillettson. The editor is Karen Martin. I'm Andrew Peach. Thanks for listening and until next time. Goodbye.
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